U.S. agency tells Biden he can formally begin transition

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Is Trump now aware that his petulance has created unnecessary problems  for many people who may  face legal issues?

If he is aware about it, as long as it does not affect him personally, he doesn't seem to care.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

We only have Emily Murphy's word that this happened, and I would question why these threats apparently have not been communicated to law enforcement.

Given most of Trump's appointees seem to have developed his habit of lying like pigs in s##t, permit me to doubt the threats actually occurred, or have not been grossly exaggerated.

Threatening pets. Really? Thousands of threats. Really?

 

I wonder if she reported them to the police or the FBI?

[welovesundaysatspace]

50 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I wonder if she reported them to the police or the FBI?

To neither one, as she feared that those deep state agencies would just eat her reports in the basement of a pizza shop where they’re selling children to create chemtrails in the sky. 

[Eric Loh]

Did she lie. She wrote this in her letter indicating she acted on her own. 

 

“I was never directly or indirectly pressured by any Executive Branch official -- including those who work at the White House or GSA -- with regard to the substance or timing of my decision. To be clear, I did not receive any direction to delay my determination”. 

 

Then Trump tweet this indicating he instructed her to proceed. 

S. President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter that he was recommending that Murphy and her team "do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same."

 

Lying never ceased in Trump’s swamp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Srikcir]

7 hours ago, Sujo said:

Those two statements cannot be true.

But what they have in common is refusal to refer to Biden as "President Elect." 

Trump says he won the election "by a landslide." 

[TPI]

"Reuters" is obviously mis-informed, "Old Joe" cannot be said to have won or lost the election until it is certified! This entire topic is a sop to the soon to be disapointed followers of the 78 year old VP. Where do they find the people who would write this nonsense? The current news media is in a very sad state!

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, TPI said:

"Reuters" is obviously mis-informed, "Old Joe" cannot be said to have won or lost the election until it is certified! This entire topic is a sop to the soon to be disapointed followers of the 78 year old VP. Where do they find the people who would write this nonsense? The current news media is in a very sad state!

Oy vey.

 

[dunroaming]

Hate to burst TPI's bubble but Trump has agreed to a peaceful transition of power to Biden.

[mikebike]

7 minutes ago, TPI said:

"Reuters" is obviously mis-informed, "Old Joe" cannot be said to have won or lost the election until it is certified! This entire topic is a sop to the soon to be disapointed followers of the 78 year old VP. Where do they find the people who would write this nonsense? The current news media is in a very sad state!

You seem old enough to have experienced previous elections... or maybe old enough to be experiencing Alzheimer's?

[spidermike007]

Trump broke the law yet again. By ordering Emily Wilson not to ascertain the election transition. He did everything in his power to stop the transition. And that was illegal. More ugliness from this sore loser. 

 

You sent all of those lawyers into court. You alleged fraud outside of court, but when they went into court, they had NO EVIDENCE. So, you were not able to allege fraud inside court, and all of your silly and frivolous, and wasteful, and petulant lawsuits got thrown out of court. Just like you got thrown out of office, for incompetence, malfeasance and being who you are. 

 

Despite your best intentions, America is not a banana republic. You are NOT a patriot Don. Get out. Spend the rest of your life on the golf course, with your handicap of 32. Or in Dubai, in exile. Just get out.

[numbr1]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump broke the law yet again. By ordering Emily Wilson not to ascertain the election transition. He did everything in his power to stop the transition. And that was illegal. More ugliness from this sore loser. 

 

You sent all of those lawyers into court. You alleged fraud outside of court, but when they went into court, they had NO EVIDENCE. So, you were not able to allege fraud inside court, and all of your silly and frivolous, and wasteful, and petulant lawsuits got thrown out of court. Just like you got thrown out of office, for incompetence, malfeasance and being who you are. 

 

Despite your best intentions, America is not a banana republic. You are NOT a patriot Don. Get out. Spend the rest of your life on the golf course, with your handicap of 32. Or in Dubai, in exile. Just get out.

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

[Tick Nurner]

9 hours ago, Sujo said:

Trump says he told murphy to proceed. Murphy, in her letter, says she got no pressure from anyone on what to do.

 

Those two statements cannot be true.

Well, they're not true because that's not what happened, your comment is not accurate. 

 

This is what was actually reported...

"Donald Trump wrote on Twitter that he was recommending that Murphy and her team "do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my [his] team to do the same"

 

"Telling" and "recommending" do not mean the same thing.

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38 minutes ago, TPI said:

"Reuters" is obviously mis-informed, "Old Joe" cannot be said to have won or lost the election until it is certified! This entire topic is a sop to the soon to be disapointed followers of the 78 year old VP. Where do they find the people who would write this nonsense? The current news media is in a very sad state!

There's at least a 100 years of newspaper headlines that say your critiique is garbage. Ya think those people celebrating on election nights in previous years were deluded?

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2 minutes ago, Tick Nurner said:

Well, they're not true because that's not what happened, your comment is not accurate. 

 

This is what was actually reported...

"Donald Trump wrote on Twitter that he was recommending that Murphy and her team "do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my [his] team to do the same"

 

"Telling" and "recommending" do not mean the same thing.

When the president who appointed you recommends for you to do something, there's no real distinction between that and "telling". 

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

Quite a few judges have asked trump's team for that. But so far giuliani at all weren't able to show anything.

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7 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

Actually, the people who apparently have something to hide are such characters as Rudolph Giuliani and the rest of Trump's lawyers. They has repeatedly been asked to include hard evidence of fraud in the lawsuits they were filing. So far, none.

[joecoolfrog]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Stay the course and let it play out Emily and just do your job ,despite all ...

 dear mr. biden

"I did, however, receive threats online, by phone, and by mail directed at my safety, my family, my staff, and even my pets in an effort to coerce me into making this determination prematurely. Even in the face of thousands of threats, I always remained committed to upholding the law"!

Emily W. Murphy

 

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/11/23/gsa.biden.pdf

She is lying , nothing more needs to be said.

[heybruce]

31 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Silly silly biden and all his slack thinking. Trump is on to him, and he and all dems know it. They are in panic mode, setting up this non existent "president elect office". Trumps intel spooks will track every dime spent with transition funds and see where bidens corrupt money is spent, adding more legal problems for them.

Trump's in the game, just y'all too occupied to realize it.

You act like Trump didn't see this coming.

See you 20-Jan, Trumps in. Biden...GONE, in gaga land. All you dems are toast!

Is this an example of comedy, trolling, or a poster so detached from reality he actually believes the above words?

 

12 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

Yes, the 75 million people who suspect fraud should present evidence they can take to court.  We've been waiting, so far no evidence that withstands scrutiny has been presented.

 

How can the election fraud be obvious if no credible evidence has been presented?

[joecoolfrog]

4 hours ago, candide said:

Exactly.

 

The baby crying and shaking his rattle , nothing to see , time to move on and ignore the loser.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Thank goodness that it is all over-let the transition begin!

Do you realise that Biden isn't president till January 20th, and has no power to do anything presidential till he is sworn in?

Trump is still president with all presidential powers till then.

I'm expecting a load of pardons to be appearing soon. Hopefully Flynn is among them.

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, TPI said:

"Reuters" is obviously mis-informed, "Old Joe" cannot be said to have won or lost the election until it is certified! This entire topic is a sop to the soon to be disapointed followers of the 78 year old VP. Where do they find the people who would write this nonsense? The current news media is in a very sad state!

Your hero famously had only contempt for losers , should you not be apeing him as usual ?

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Bluetongue said:

I wonder will Biden go back on every single thing Trump has done.? Particularly asking about the Middle East where Pompeo has been recently with meetings between Israel and Saudi etc. Also it seems to be the area where the US has been most likely to get involved militarily. I've got an uneasy feeling that Trump could still cause problems, or US hating nations like Iran or NK could take advantage and do likewise. Hopefully Xi remains hunkered down until this is all over. Maybe every nation being focused on Covid is actually a good thing. 

As I understand it, Biden is also pro Israel, and if that is correct I doubt he's going to encourage the Arab states to go back to being enemies of Israel.

Given Trump didn't start any wars during his time, I see no reason to believe he'd start any now.

 

However, the problems of the middle east, China, Nth Korea etc  will still be there on January 20th.

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23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As I understand it, Biden is also pro Israel, and if that is correct I doubt he's going to encourage the Arab states to go back to being enemies of Israel.

Given Trump didn't start any wars during his time, I see no reason to believe he'd start any now.

 

However, the problems of the middle east, China, Nth Korea etc  will still be there on January 20th.

I guess it depends on how you define being pro israel. I expect Biden will resubscribe to the agreement limiting Iran's nuclear stockpile in exchange for allow Iran to trade with the EU and other nations.

[welovesundaysatspace]

59 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

The only people with a problem and the only people that are failing to show “evidence in a court with real judges” seem to be Donald Dumb and his clown combo who are trying to subvert the electorate’s decision and “push” their conspiracy theories. But the shítshow is highly entertaining. At least for us non-Americans as we are having a good laugh and can be glad that we are not the laughing stock of the world. 

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

' Big fat nothing burger '.

Is that phrase familiar to you ?

[billd766]

1 hour ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

Really? The onus is on the people claiming that electoral fraud has occurred and that they have the evidence for the court.

 

So far every case taken to the courts in the USA has been thrown out as the plaintifs (ie Trump) and his lawyers have only baseless accusations and cannot provide ANY proof at all.

Edited November 24, 2020 by billd766
Bad spelling

[herfiehandbag]

50 minutes ago, numbr1 said:

Thats the problem with you people. If nothing to hide, lets see the evidence in a court with real judges and have it out. 75M americans suspect fraud, lets show them, irrefutably, one way or the other. But to "push" and try to subvert, only lends credence to this obvious election fraud.

The trouble with this "obvious election fraud" is that just about every legal challenge brought has failed because the challengers, alleging "obvious election fraud" have, quite simply, been unable to submit any real evidence.

 

That's the problem with, umh, "you people".

[EVENKEEL]

I'll bet the caravans are fueling up for ride north when joe takes over. 

[joecoolfrog]

18 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'll bet the caravans are fueling up for ride north when joe takes over. 

Oh look , bogey men scaremongering !

I sense the presence of an intellectual giant , can't understand why Trump didn't have you in his administration.

[Psimbo]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'll bet the caravans are fueling up for ride north when joe takes over. 

Nope there  is no way Canada will let the Bubbas and their guns in. The border will sphincter up well beyond puckered.

 

Have a look at Spitting Image- even Trumps sphincter has left for a job with Fod.!