46 minutes ago, madmen said:

I'm not buying it but I got a lot of friends trapped and it's not pretty. 

Most are now financially trapped, therefore, have to believe their girl is different, and the love is real.

 

Social experiment.  Stop the monthly money and see how much love you get.  ????

 

These are the same guys that frown upon the mongers here.  Yet, not much different between a Thai women who has a couple of short time customers a week and a few lady drinks for around 10k baht a month, or a Thai women who has one exclusive customer, called her husband, for the same money, if not more.     

I have found genuine Love with at least 2 Thai women over the years   both totally decent lovely hearted honest women    one died the other  and me are still married but dont live together  but we are friends   and have grown up kids  ,...

 

not sure about my Mia Noi  she says she loves me  and she is brutally honest   which is brilliant , but sometimes its  difficult to tell  due to her  temprement and drinking but she is  super hot even at 52  and to be honest no other woman I know compares to her not even younger ones ..????

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

Social experiment.  Stop the monthly money and see how much love you get.

 Experiment, doomed to failure,  no one loves a scrooge.

Wimmins like comfort and care, for that they'll hang about.

 

11 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

 Experiment, doomed to failure,  no one loves a scrooge.

Wimmins like comfort and care, for that they'll hang about.

 

 

  They sure do , as long as she can pay for it herself .

If she wants a rich , affluent lifestyle of comfort and care which is beyond her means .

I prefer it if they didnt hang about , otherwise its at my expense .

  If you can/want to pay for both , up to you 

Makes me smile the 'single by choice' guys, we've almost all been there done that, what you gotta try and work out guys, is why, if we had more than enough funds to carry on, we chose to move on  ????

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  They sure do , as long as she can pay for it herself .

If she wants a rich , affluent lifestyle of comfort and care which is beyond her means .

I prefer it if they didnt hang about , otherwise its at my expense .

  If you can/want to pay for both , up to you 

Cor you old meany, mate, you don't have to be rich to offer comfort and care,

I find it satisfying and rewarding to share my little lifestyle with my little buddy gal.

11 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Which simply means you love her, and dont know it.

 

Actually, I said that, not the OP. And you may be right.

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes there are some horror stories out there especially being ripped off financially.

I really have the utmost respect for those older farang who are independent & don't need that mother figure wife in their life.

I guess it's how you were brought up and if your a needy type person and introvert or extrovert 

 

Myself.. I get lonely..I would luv now to settle down but don't think I ever could .. ...I do worry however when I retire to Thailand ( Pattaya)  as I get towards 60 ridiculous silly things like who will visit me in hospital if I get sick ?

 

Do I need anyone to actually " love " when I retire there ?

Do I need a love of my life ?

 

 

I'm able to look after myself but even though I love the girls of the night there will always be a missing piece I guess.. someone who really cares that you can talk to .

 

.I'm scared to say... end up 80yo in hospital bed and the nurse says where's your wife  etc ...and I have no one ...

When you get to 60? That's still middle age, unless one has abused their body badly with alcohol, nicotine and drugs.

You won't find many women in Thailand to talk to unless you take the trouble to learn the language. I talk to my Thai GF all the time in Thai, it's good practice and helps ward off Alzheimers.

I'm not sure love is needed, just a mutual contract of taking care of one another. Plenty of women here very happy to do that.

BTW, you can hire retired nurses here as carers for 10-15K baht/month. The Thai government compulsorily retires them from all the public hospitals at age 45.

 

19 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

 

 

Money  buys good n services---not love, in my opinion.  63 yr old brit lived in my thai building and had a 30 yr old burmese gf....he built her a house--paid mbike-phone-free rent--etc....she spoke little english and they lived in a studio room. She constantly accused him of cheating and would follow us and sit there as we went out for a beer....  she would leave him--come back--fight and leave--come back....I asked why keep someone like that and he said he didnt want to be alone..I said you are in LOS!  I cant be alone even when I avoid people in LOS as someone is always trying to get in my pocket......He said she cooks for him--washes him--etc..I said he can get a different gal daily for his money...plenty of ready to eat meals--even delivered nowadays..and he can wash himself..Ive had thai gals wash me and its weird..same if they groom me, cut my nails or even pour my drink as Im not an invalid or a baby.....doesnt do it for me as Im capable of these things myself..

 

I also dont pay for "love" as long as I have wifi and am able bodied to create the same results(wink)......I say suckers pay for "love" and I tell thai girls I dont pay for love, I earn it...explains why Im still single-lol, but i enjoy the time investment and challenge of getting a girl to want to be with ME, not whats in my wallet......I will say ive got a weak spot for the Chinese gals I see around CM, the ones Ive met speak good english, are polite and dress very nice....I met one 2 yrs ago that I considered marrying..but I had already booked a tix home and she was headed to nepal.....but I got her email...also met a chinese exchange student at CMU..god was she ever cute!

Country of origin or place you live is not relevant, if you want love you could find it anywhere.  If you want to pay bar girls for pleasure then Pattaya would be a good place

23 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Finding a partner a wife whatever is down to the person and where they look,  there's beaut females all around the world, where you look is up to you. 

I prefer to be married not single. 

I came on "scouting" trips in 2009 and 2010. Four trips, a month each time. Fat boy in the candy shop! Retired to Thailand July 2011. Spent the first 8 months testing different living/female arrangements. Thailand is ideal for this ... but ... Found I wanted to share my life with someone. Trips, whether local or distant ... So, lapsed into serial monogamy. Intention is for the remainder of my life. I have never been so content nor better cared for than a traditionally raised Thai girl!

23 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I prefer being single, living alone and not being loved up .

Really dont want to care for anyone else or fund their life , thanks very much 

I have a wife, 5 years GF, then 10 years wife, and have never funded her life, she has always had her money right from the start and

I have mine, I only keep enough money for living expenses here in Thailand.

20 hours ago, varun said:

Going by the number of times I get called 'Hansum man' and 'hello darling'  on Walking Street,

there is plenty of love to be found!

I am reasonably handsome, 6ft, 76K, walked around Pattaya and Bangkok regularly, though not so much now because of the pandemic, and no girl has ever called me handsome man, could it be because these girls mostly want the unattractive, overweight guys because they know these guys are desperate, and will always be willing to spend plenty of money on them for their legovers?

On 12/16/2020 at 1:12 PM, PatOngo said:

I believe you can buy love for around 1000 baht an hour on Walking Street!

Must be a hard up man.

23 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Stay away from the stunners for an LTR. Absolutely not worth the headaches, the demands, the maintenance. I’ve seen those couples far too many times, and heard their ridiculous arguments. At the shopping malls, they want this and that, and oh god, at the banks. An absolute indifference to whatever their partner’s plight might be, and in its place, absolute greed. 

 

Sure, I reckon they get their minute of fun every once in awhile. But just like the ones you might’ve brought back to your room at some point, the rest of their time is then spent on their phones. Their job’s done, and like at a mall kiosk, they’re now between customers. Such an attitude has been formed since puberty, from all the attention they’ve had. If it’s not from you, then they’ve got their queue.

 

Of course, there’s no way to guarantee a sure bet against this. We’ll all get screwed sometime by somebody. But from personal and friends’ experience, you significantly improve your odds by sticking around your own age, and dialing back your requirements on attractiveness. Get someone cute and sweet, but absolutely not a head turner.

 

I just love the looks my wife and I get, “What’s she doing with him?” What’s she got?” (Not tooting my own horn, almost any farang represents an elevation in status in the eyes of most Thai women.) Well, it’s been actually possible and enjoyable to live with her.

Excellent!!   Couldn't have said it any better.  My gf is what some would call a 5 or 6.  She's smart and has a degree, runs the production planning dept. at a factory, owns her own townhouse and car and is generally very nice to live with.  By the way, I'd be considered a 5 or 6 too.  Neither of us worries about the other.  Happy, happy!!!

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

I am reasonably handsome, 6ft, 76K, walked around Pattaya and Bangkok regularly, though not so much now because of the pandemic, and no girl has ever called me handsome man, could it be because these girls mostly want the unattractive, overweight guys because they know these guys are desperate, and will always be willing to spend plenty of money on them for their legovers?

Dude it's you. You're not handsome 

On 12/16/2020 at 1:08 PM, georgegeorgia said:

if you are looking for real real love & partner

maybe the real answer lies in another question...

 

can you give love, real love? Really loving someone is the most loveable trait you can have... kind love, not nasty jealous love. 

45 minutes ago, Randy99 said:

indifference to whatever their partner’s plight might be

not sure how many ladies anywhere want much to do w/a fellow w/a plight... 

17 hours ago, Leaver said:

Most are now financially trapped, therefore, have to believe their girl is different, and the love is real.

 

Social experiment.  Stop the monthly money and see how much love you get.  ????

 

These are the same guys that frown upon the mongers here.  Yet, not much different between a Thai women who has a couple of short time customers a week and a few lady drinks for around 10k baht a month, or a Thai women who has one exclusive customer, called her husband, for the same money, if not more.     

 

I don’t frown at the mongers.... but I do frown at moronic comments such as above. 

 

You seem to think women in Thailand fall in to two brackets - Those you pay for sex and those you pay for marriage.

 

 

I see so many guys, many friends etc who are married to financially independent women with their own careers. Perhaps those who think as above do so because thats their only level of exposure to females in Thailand and those they associate with. 

 

 

 

 

On 12/16/2020 at 3:13 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Does she charge for seeing you for lunch?

A friend of mine once, out of the kindness of his heart, paid for a bar girl to get some dental work... he went with her and paid the bill... when she saw his money come out - she asked for money too... what for he asked? For my time, she answered.. 

On 12/16/2020 at 1:22 PM, CorpusChristie said:

I prefer being single, living alone and not being loved up .

Really dont want to care for anyone else or fund their life , thanks very much 

Same same.

Ive been married and him kids in previuos life.

In thailand there is very ample female company available,without the need to get married.and all the problems that go with it..

Having variety is invaluable..

 

 

33 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

A friend of mine once, out of the kindness of his heart, paid for a bar girl to get some dental work... he went with her and paid the bill... when she saw his money come out - she asked for money too... what for he asked? For my time, she answered.. 

Maybe she thought he wanted a BJ from his favorite girl with braces. ????

 

Married, any day of the week

On 12/16/2020 at 1:12 PM, PatOngo said:

I believe you can buy love for around 1000 baht an hour on Walking Street!

On Soi Buakhao I can get about 8 hours for that (and that's a danger zone for some)

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You won't find many women in Thailand to talk to unless you take the trouble to learn the language. I talk to my Thai GF all the time in Thai, it's good practice and helps ward off Alzheimers.

Yeah, I talk to the missus in rubbish Thai and she talks back in crappy English,

so none of us know whats going on. I expect we both get Azheimers together.

On 12/16/2020 at 4:51 PM, varun said:

Going by the number of times I get called 'Hansum man' and 'hello darling'  on Walking Street,

there is plenty of love to be found!

when they see the "hansum man" coming they are looking at a walking cash machine 555

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I don’t frown at the mongers.... but I do frown at moronic comments such as above. 

 

You seem to think women in Thailand fall in to two brackets - Those you pay for sex and those you pay for marriage.

 

 

I see so many guys, many friends etc who are married to financially independent women with their own careers. Perhaps those who think as above do so because thats their only level of exposure to females in Thailand and those they associate with. 

 

 

 

 

I guess from the type of comments that most posters would not know that there are financially independent, respected, dynamic, well educated and travelled....etc, Thai women with their own careers in Thailand (married and single (including many under 40)).  I know CEOs/MDs/pilots, entrepeneurs, dentists, etc, some friends of my wife and others I have met though business, travel, etc.

16 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Cor you old meany, mate, you don't have to be rich to offer comfort and care,

I find it satisfying and rewarding to share my little lifestyle with my little buddy gal.

 

  Not a "meany" at all .

Had two long term girlfriends in Thailand , treated her and her family very well .

Renovated the house in the village , feed and clothed some family youngsters, then my income fell by 50 % , things got a bit difficult and nearly all my income was going to them , that wasnt enough and she ended the relationship after five years .

  Second one, again treated her and her family well , bringing up her young son as my own , she then demanded that I build her a house in her village . This was at the them when Covid was taking hold and I was potentially having to go on overstay .

  I declined the demand , and she put an end to the relationship .

Both left , taking their families and everything I had bought them with them  .

At the time, thought I was in genuine relationships , turns out I was just an ATM and they were parasites .

Both went looking for the White Knight in shinning armor .

Now my finances have improved , I want to stay single and affluent , rather than being poor and giving my money to others .

  Not complaining though , it was good whilst it lasted and I wouldnt change anything ..............not even them leaving , glad to see the back of them actually .

  Just currently happy and content being single and will definitely not be inheriting anymore families in the future

20 minutes ago, rimmae2 said:

I guess from the type of comments that most posters would not know that there are financially independent, respected, dynamic, well educated and travelled....etc, Thai women with their own careers in Thailand (married and single (including many under 40)).  I know CEOs/MDs/pilots, entrepeneurs, dentists, etc, some friends of my wife and others I have met though business, travel, etc.

Amen....

I'm married to one....

 

Thailand is full of vibrant, capable, traditional, successful, hard working, educated women....

 

The OP cited Pattaya, and odds are slim to none there.... It's a playground for the "at risk" crowd....