Trump supporters who stormed U.S. Capitol could face sedition charges -prosecutor

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55 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Look who finds that funny.

 

49 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Lemme guess. The guy with the horns who took over Pelosi's desk?

Or thr guy(s) who killed the police officer by bashing him with a fire extinguisher. 

[mtls2005]

6 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

“Where we’ll storm offices and physically remove and even kill all the D.C. traitors and reclaim the country.”

 

During the insurrection and invasion of The Capitol Building, insurgents can be heard shouting "Hang (VP) Pence".

 

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

During the insurrection and invasion of The Capitol Building, insurgents can be heard shouting "Hang (VP) Pence".

 

 

 

 

'Hang Mike Pence' trends on Twitter after platform suspends Trump for risk of 'incitement of violence'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence

 

 

there is a link in the article to a twitter feed with the video.

[ChouDoufu]

 

GOP Sen. Toomey: Trump 'committed impeachable offenses'

The House, after earning 185 co-sponsors, will bring forth articles of impeachment on Monday

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-letter-senate-impeachment-summary

 

Mitch McConnell sends letter to GOP senators on impeachment procedure summary

Democrats could vote on impeachment early next week

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-letter-senate-impeachment-summary

 

 

no chance of removal before inauguration, but it doesn't end there.  impeachment proceedings can continue after regime change.  too late to excise the malignancy, but one of the penalties upon conviction is lifetime prohibition from holding any office under the united states.

[Virt]

3 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

GOP Sen. Toomey: Trump 'committed impeachable offenses'

The House, after earning 185 co-sponsors, will bring forth articles of impeachment on Monday

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-letter-senate-impeachment-summary

 

Mitch McConnell sends letter to GOP senators on impeachment procedure summary

Democrats could vote on impeachment early next week

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-letter-senate-impeachment-summary

 

 

no chance of removal before inauguration, but it doesn't end there.  impeachment proceedings can continue after regime change.  too late to excise the malignancy, but one of the penalties upon conviction is lifetime prohibition from holding any office under the united states.

 

The last part is probably why they are doing this?

To keep Trump away for good. 

 

I'm not so sure they manage to get enough votes though. 

Is it 2/3 votes they need? 

 

Some of the republicans that might have plans next election, could ruin their chance by voting for this. 

[watthong]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Makes me think some well placed folks in trumps administration left the congress woefully unprotected it will be found out just who left them open to the attempted coup it’s gonna hit the fan bigley when they do find out 

 

They won't. Because, just like the Capitol security breach wasn't exactly a "failure," these on going prosecutions are only window-dressing. Trump has his tentacles everywhere, what do people think he's been doing last 4yrs? For additional proof, look at what DoJ is NOT going to do next (abc news.)

 

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Rimmer
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[ChouDoufu]

7 minutes ago, Virt said:

 

The last part is probably why they are doing this?

To keep Trump away for good. 

 

I'm not so sure they manage to get enough votes though. 

Is it 2/3 votes they need? 

 

Some of the republicans that might have plans next election, could ruin their chance by voting for this. 

 

politicians are political animals.  they'll wait to see which way the winds are blowing to commit.

 

investigations are just beginning, in regards to the storming of the capitol and trump's many "perfect" phone calls.

 

as more facts come out, many may find that breaking with trump may be their most secure path to re-election.

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, Virt said:

 

The last part is probably why they are doing this?

To keep Trump away for good. 

 

I'm not so sure they manage to get enough votes though. 

Is it 2/3 votes they need? 

 

Some of the republicans that might have plans next election, could ruin their chance by voting for this. 

You assume that following the outraged of the past week, Republicans themselves would not want to put an end to Trump ever holding office again.

[bendejo]

The Proud Boys.  It's sad to see a gay rights organization stand in favor of fascism.

 

 

 

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, cmarshall said:

 

Even it that is true it is nevertheless a huge step to announce that permanent war is now the policy of the US govt.

Not completely permanent but coming close:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

[bunnydrops]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In response to people toppling confederate statues, Trump signed an executive order mandating longer prison sentences for people damaging Federal property.

 

Enjoy.

The only problem with that is he did it in June and would be only in effect for 6 months.

[transam]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Look who finds that funny.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coup

[cmarshall]

36 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

no chance of removal before inauguration, but it doesn't end there.  impeachment proceedings can continue after regime change.  too late to excise the malignancy, but one of the penalties upon conviction is lifetime prohibition from holding any office under the united states.

 

Not so fast.  In fact, it is possible for the Senate to try Trump on articles of impeachment before Jan. 20.  Although the Senate is now in recess, if the Dems. can round up 51 votes they can march into the Senate chamber and announce that, a quorum having been established the Senate is now in session.  A majority could be made up of the 48 Dem senators plus the two new Dem senators from GA once the runoff elections have been certified by the Secretary of State of GA, plus at least one Republican senator.  So far, at least three Republican senators have declared themselves in favor of removing Trump: Romney, Murkowski, and Toomey.  The majority in the new Senate session can elect Schumer as Majority Leader who then puts on the agenda the trial of the President under articles of impeachment.  

 

It is indeed possible that 17 Republican votes could be found to convict Trump since the Republican party leadership would be happy to be rid of him, but they would have to be willing to face the rage of the Trumpites, which is less certain.

 

This path will only be tried, however, in the unlikely event that Chuck Schumer grows a pair.

[ChouDoufu]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not completely permanent but coming close:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

 

i thought trump's plan was to start a small war with iran to appease his largest donors and to make things difficult for biden returning to the jcpoa.

 

turns out he's got biglier plans!  appears half a million dead aren't bigly enough.

 

Pompeo lifts US-Taiwan restrictions in move likely to anger China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/09/mike-pompeo-restrictions-us-taiwan-china

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, transam said:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coup

A definition in a dictionary isn't important, it is the definition in the countries law that counts.

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, watthong said:

 

They won't. Because, just like the Capitol security breach wasn't exactly a "failure," these on going prosecutions are only window-dressing. Trump has his tentacles everywhere, what do people think he's been doing last 4yrs? For additional proof, look at what DoJ is NOT going to do next (abc news.)

 

The DoJ is about to have a change of management.

[transam]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

A definition in a dictionary isn't important, it is the definition in the countries law that counts.

Was it misspelt, should have been "Soup"......????

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The DoJ is about to have a change of management.

 

Do you have a link for that DoJ announcement?  It's not on their announcement webpage.

 

And yes, that policy is likely to remain in effect until Jan. 20.

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1 minute ago, transam said:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coup

 Lots of the rioters were Qanon cultists.  They believed that by taking over the capital they would precipitate The Storm. By The Storm they mean that President Trump would mobilize the military to arrest try and execute deep State members and invalidate the election. In other words, a coup. So, since their intent was to stage a coup, they could be tried for sedition.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coup

I’ll see your poor attempt at semantics and raise you 18 U.S. Code § 2385 

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

Do you have a link for that DoJ announcement?  It's not on their announcement webpage.

 

And yes, that policy is likely to remain in effect until Jan. 20.

Merrick will be AG soon.  And Biden isn't going to stop him from doing investigations.  Especially if significant info comes to light over the next few weeks during the investigations that have begun.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

Do you have a link for that DoJ announcement?  It's not on their announcement webpage.

 

And yes, that policy is likely to remain in effect until Jan. 20.

So you missed Biden’s election, confirmation and announcements on his appointees.

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you missed Biden’s election, confirmation and announcements on his appointees.

 

I'm asking about the DoJ announcement not to charge incitement of insurrection, which has nothing to do with Biden.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ll see your poor attempt at semantics and raise you 18 U.S. Code § 2385 

So you disagree that you used the wrong word "coup"..That's OK, I understand....

But, I would call your word "overkill", or "exaggerating".....

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

So you disagree that you used the wrong word "coup"..That's OK, I understand....

But, I would call your word "overkill", or "exaggerating".....

No I do not agree.

 

Trump incited domestic terrorists within his support base in an attempt to prevent the certification of Biden’s election win and thereby prevent the lawfully elected candidate taking office. By violent means to overthrow the election of the incoming President.

 

 

Coup!

Edited January 10, 2021 by Chomper Higgot

[cmarshall]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No I do not agree.

 

Trump unsighted domestic terrorists within his support base in an attempt to prevent the certification of Biden’s election win and thereby prevent the lawfully elected candidate taking office. By violent means to overthrow the election of the incoming President.

 

 

Coup!

 

Uhh... "incited"

[transam]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I do not agree.

 

Trump incited domestic terrorists within his support base in an attempt to prevent the certification of Biden’s election win and thereby prevent the lawfully elected candidate taking office. By violent means to overthrow the election of the incoming President.

 

 

Coup!

So now they are terrorists, even the pensioners with their signs, the fruit cake with horns and paint...........????

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

I'm asking about the DoJ announcement not to charge incitement of insurrection, which has nothing to do with Biden.

So why ask me when my post you responded to sergers to the  forthcoming change of management ?!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, transam said:

So now they are terrorists, even the pensioners with their signs, the fruit cake with horns and paint...........????

Yep, terrorists.

 

Using violence against an elected government to attain political ends.

 

 

Terrorists.

[cmarshall]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

So why ask me when my post you responded to sergers to the  forthcoming change of management ?!

It was an unintended consequence of the quotation mechanism, which I assume you would be sharp enough to catch.