U.S. pursuing seditious conspiracy cases in 'unprecedented' probe of Capitol riot

[Walker88]

An FBI spokeman said 'it will shock people' when more details of the putsch are revealed.

 

Rep Mikie Sherrill, a Dem, also a former prosecutor and a Navy helicopter pilot, has said that she watched some (R) reps escorting people through the Capitol in the days before the putsch in what she said looked like a "reconnaissance mission", detailing where private offices of some Reps were located (vs the public offices where Reps meet constituents).

 

Already it has been shown that new (R) Rep lauren boebert was live-Tweeting the location of Speaker Pelosi during the insurrection.

 

Yes, it will shock people. The enemy within.

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, somtamgaiyang said:

Actually, the total Trump votes from the election was not 79 million, it was 74,223,744. But you're right, it's likely a significant number of his more moderate supporters have since reconsidered.

https://morningconsult.com/2021/01/08/trump-approval-rating-capitol-riot-poll/

[Tug]

A lot of those insurrectionists could end up on the terrorist watch list losing their right to fly on commercial aircraft as well as the rite to bear arms just fine with me!

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

An FBI spokeman said 'it will shock people' when more details of the putsch are revealed.

 

Rep Mikie Sherrill, a Dem, also a former prosecutor and a Navy helicopter pilot, has said that she watched some (R) reps escorting people through the Capitol in the days before the putsch in what she said looked like a "reconnaissance mission", detailing where private offices of some Reps were located (vs the public offices where Reps meet constituents).

 

Already it has been shown that new (R) Rep lauren boebert was live-Tweeting the location of Speaker Pelosi during the insurrection.

 

Yes, it will shock people. The enemy within.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/justice-department-capitol-hill-attack/index.html

 

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But while the FBI has opened more than 160 case files in the six days since pro-Donald Trump rioters breached the US Capitol building, officials acknowledged Tuesday that the evidence gathered so far "is just the tip of the iceberg."

 

"People are going to be shocked by some of the egregious contact that happened in the Capitol," acting US Attorney Michael Sherwin said in reference to assaults on federal and DC police officers.

 

"So the picture is going to build. I think there's a lot of misconceptions about what happened within the Capitol, and it's going to come into laser focus I think over the next weeks and days," he added.

 

 

 

[mikebike]

5 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

Wondering why you believe he has more supporters than voters... ????

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

Wondering why you believe he has more supporters than voters... ????

I think that's the number of his followers on Twitter.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, placeholder said:

I think that's the number of his followers on Twitter.

I follow his rants on Twitter, but for sure hate the man.

[mikebike]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I think that's the number of his followers on Twitter.

Does he not understand that some of the followers on Twitter are doing oppo research?

[joecoolfrog]

5 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

I think you might find that there are rather less than that right now !

Protesting or not , not a single US citizen should condone sedition so how about you condemn it.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Well put.  Something many that support Trump don't understand.  It's only a small minority that are violent.  Right wing nuts.

 

Almost. But it seems that this is more like something many that do not support Trump don't understand. 

[Rimmer]

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[Jeffr2]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Almost. But it seems that this is more like something many that do not support Trump don't understand. 

Many who support Trump do so because they are hard core Republicans.  I use to be like that.  I'd NEVER vote for any democrat.  Luckily, I saw the light and now understand most politicians are dodgy.  Change is desperately needed.

[Surelynot]

Got "educated" by a barstool patriot last night......all democratic households received four ballot papers for EACH person in that household and they then also voted in person. The Dominion voting machines have software programmed to switch Trump votes into Biden votes. Republican observers (not Democratic observers) were all made to stand more than 20m away from tellers (covid safety rules). California offers free welfare and free health care to all illegal immigrants who promise to vote Democrat. Trump mail-in votes were seen (up to 200,000 at a time) to be dumped at waste sites........and the whole thing is orchestrated by the Deep State...who are all Communists....well he convinced me........................... STOP THE STEAL. Oh! Forgot.....all Fact Checking sites are run by communists, so they are no use in trying to find out the truth.

[joecoolfrog]

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Almost. But it seems that this is more like something many that do not support Trump don't understand. 

And what many hard line Trump supporters dont grasp, is that a great deal of his votes come from die hard Republicans who would vote for a monkey if it wore a red vest.

When the GOP ditches Trump ( and it is doing so ) he is finished as are his fan boyz.

[joecoolfrog]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Got "educated" by a barstool patriot last night......all democratic households received four ballot papers for EACH person in that household and they then also voted in person. The Dominion voting machines have software programmed to switch Trump votes into Biden votes. Republican observers (not Democratic observers) were all made to stand more than 20m away from tellers (covid safety rules). California offers free welfare and free health care to all illegal immigrants who promise to vote Democrat. Trump mail-in votes were seen (up to 200,000 at a time) to be dumped at waste sites........and the whole thing is orchestrated by the Deep State...who are all Communists....well he convinced me........................... STOP THE STEAL. Oh! Forgot.....all Fact Checking sites are run by communists, so they are no use in trying to find out the truth.

He didn't mention lizard skinned paedophiles , must be a moderate !

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

He didn't mention lizard skinned paedophiles , must be a moderate !

I was going to raise the subject of baby-eating Democrats, but was just sober enough not to poke the hornets nest.

[soalbundy]

5 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Well put.  Something many that support Trump don't understand.  It's only a small minority that are violent.  Right wing nuts.

but they are the support body, the mobs at Trumps rallies are like football fans cheering on the players, they just don't kick the ball themselves.

The many MAGA's who don't support violence make themselves participants by not being discerning, swallowing his lies even when given proof he is a liar they still cling to their hero no matter how disgusting a person he shows himself to be, they are his stable platform upon which he can continue to disgrace his high office and cause chaos in the whole world.... and still even now they support him which is why the self interested GOP in the main are too afraid to denounce him because they fear not being reelected in the future....Mccarthyism from the public.

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

but they are the support body, the mobs at Trumps rallies are like football fans cheering on the players, they just don't kick the ball themselves.

The many MAGA's who don't support violence make themselves participants by not being discerning, swallowing his lies even when given proof he is a liar they still cling to their hero no matter how disgusting a person he shows himself to be, they are his stable platform upon which he can continue to disgrace his high office and cause chaos in the whole world.... and still even now they support him which is why the self interested GOP in the main are too afraid to denounce him because they fear not being reelected in the future....Mccarthyism from the public.

What you say reminds of the old adage........"All that is necessary for evil to triumph............"

[Jeffr2]

18 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Got "educated" by a barstool patriot last night......all democratic households received four ballot papers for EACH person in that household and they then also voted in person. The Dominion voting machines have software programmed to switch Trump votes into Biden votes. Republican observers (not Democratic observers) were all made to stand more than 20m away from tellers (covid safety rules). California offers free welfare and free health care to all illegal immigrants who promise to vote Democrat. Trump mail-in votes were seen (up to 200,000 at a time) to be dumped at waste sites........and the whole thing is orchestrated by the Deep State...who are all Communists....well he convinced me........................... STOP THE STEAL. Oh! Forgot.....all Fact Checking sites are run by communists, so they are no use in trying to find out the truth.

If I encounter a fool like that, I RUN!  Don't walk, run!!!  And never see them again.  Whow...stunning how clueless some are.

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

 Biden won 81 million popular votes, Trump 74 million. Where do you get the extra 5 million?

Oh, I get it. Those were the votes Biden stole from Trump.

[Surelynot]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

If I encounter a fool like that, I RUN!  Don't walk, run!!!  And never see them again.  Whow...stunning how clueless some are.

I was stuck.....just one of those situations......so I knuckled down, feigned interested in what he was saying and asked the odd pertinent question........however that bar is now off limits for the foreseeable!!!

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 Biden won 81 million popular votes, Trump 74 million. Where do you get the extra 5 million?

Oh, I get it. Those were the votes Biden stole from Trump.

Shouldn't that read Trump 82 million....he did win after all.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I think that's the number of his followers on Twitter.

Being a follower on Twitter doesn't mean they are a supporter, some people like watching train wrecks.

[RocketDog]

7 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

Keep in mind that there are also many who would have if they had the funding and time. 

Your point is that many are tarred with the  same brush as the few. I get that. 

 

My point is that rational people have good reason to question (and will) the judgment of ALL of the 79 million who do support Trump. Some of them may in fact be treated unjustly just as the great majority of Americans, including trump supporters, have been treated unjustly for four years by Republicans and the madman they enabled. 

 

Life ain't fair and some mistakes can't be ignored or undone. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. 

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[PatOngo]

8 hours ago, camble said:

Hope they charge Trump and Giuliani for inciting the riot.

Treason and sedition would be more appropriate!

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

Six million more than voted for him.

 

How strange is that?!

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Trump mail-in votes were seen (up to 200,000 at a time) to be dumped at waste sites

 

Kinda funny how no one thought to pick up a sample, or take a pic (a selfie with the discarded ballots!)

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

I was stuck.....just one of those situations......so I knuckled down, feigned interested in what he was saying and asked the odd pertinent question........however that bar is now off limits for the foreseeable!!!

I have been in similar situations a couple of times , didn't hold back.

Forcibly made my points but in a general sense , didn't make it personal.

Both occasions the person in question just looked stunned and dropped the subject , lot of these guys simply crave like minded acceptance .

Of course if you encounter a nutter then all bets are off !

[Slain]

9 hours ago, rgraham said:

Keep in mind that there are over 79 million Trump supporters not involved in any protests.????

Very true, but Trump was not one of those.