First doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to be administered a week after arrival in Thailand

[webfact]

First doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to be administered a week after arrival in Thailand

 

(Photo by JUSTIN TALLIS / AFP)

 

Thai people will receive the first doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine within a week of the first 50,000 doses from Italy arriving in Thailand this month, although the date of arrival is still not specified, said Dr. Thawee Chotepittayasunont, an expert at the National Communicable Disease Committee, at a news briefing on Tuesday.

 

Noting that all vaccines have side effects, to a greater of lesser degree, he said that 70% of those inoculated with the AstraZeneca vaccine so far developed more side effects after the first than the second dose. Common side effects include inflammation and pain at and around the injection site and other medications can reduce these symptoms.

 

In case of more serious side effects, Dr. Thawee said sufferers must be admitted to hospital for treatment, adding that about 0.7% of those who develop serious side effects die or experience some disability, for which the state will provide compensation.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/first-doses-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-to-be-administered-a-week-after-arrival-in-thailand/

 

 

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[sammieuk1]

Just get on with it talk is cheap report back when 50m jabs are complete ????

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

In case of more serious side effects, Dr. Thawee said sufferers must be admitted to hospital for treatment, adding that about 0.7% of those who develop serious side effects die or experience some disability, for which the state will provide compensation.

The missing number is the percentage of those vaccinated that get serious side effects so we can't guess how many are likely to die,the unlucky 0.7% any volunteers?Did anyone mention Thailand rates 104th for transparency and corruption?They also seem to say you don't get a choice of going to hospital or not if you do get more serious side effects.

[madmitch]

Do we know who are to be the recipients of the first 50,000 doses? Will it be Government and Senate members as most of them would be within any applicable age group, front-line health workers or lottery winners?

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

50,000 doses from Italy arriving in Thailand this month, although the date of arrival is still not specified, said Dr. Thawee Chotepittayasunont,

Are they enroute? or are they still to be shipped.  If they are hung up and not here, why say it will be this month, although the DOA is not specified.  It appears that it may or may not happen this month.  Waiting on the ticker tape parade, marching bands, dancing girls, and balloons, with a big sign announcing the Arrival of the first vaccines.  Wonder if we can go to the airport and greet the delivery as a group and cheer it onwards.  I bet there will be a few monks to bless it's arrival, and then an armed escort to the MOPH where it will be stored until used.  Waiting for the first inoculated person to be memorialized with a photo, holding up the empty vial, and the vial being placed in the Museum with a sign indicating this was the start to the end of Covid in Thailand.....

[DLock]

There are going to milk the PR value of this 50,000 AZ vaccines everyday until it arrives....and then even more so when it arrives.

 

It's irrelevant in the scheme of things. It means nothing.

 

Fail.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

In case of more serious side effects, Dr. Thawee said sufferers must be admitted to hospital for treatment, adding that about 0.7% of those who develop serious side effects die or experience some disability, for which the state will provide compensation.

Touch of scare mongering by the Dr there. If you're going to discuss side effects and percentages then give the whole picture for gods sake. Plus cite where you got these figures from.

[FarFlungFalang]

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Touch of scare mongering by the Dr there. If you're going to discuss side effects and percentages then give the whole picture for gods sake. Plus cite where you got these figures from.

104th for transparency, can't go telling everything willy nilly.

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

Do we know who are to be the recipients of the first 50,000 doses? Will it be Government and Senate members as most of them would be within any applicable age group, front-line health workers or lottery winners?

No ! We dont know.

But I can hazard a guess.

[mfd101]

Thailand is rated 4th best in the whole world for its handling of the pandemic. So clearly there's nothing to worry about.

[Dagfinnur Traustason]

Where has the little batch of vaccine gone
Nobody knows, nobody knows......

[newnative]

3 hours ago, madmitch said:

Do we know who are to be the recipients of the first 50,000 doses? Will it be Government and Senate members as most of them would be within any applicable age group, front-line health workers or lottery winners?

   We know the 50,000 doses will only cover 25,000.  We don't know why all the hoopla for such a teeny tiny amount.  We know the recipients will not be you or me.  

[DLock]

4 hours ago, madmitch said:

Do we know who are to be the recipients of the first 50,000 doses? Will it be Government and Senate members as most of them would be within any applicable age group, front-line health workers or lottery winners?

 

Not sure who is on the list...but I am sure that if the first vaccine to arrive is the Chinese vaccine, that list will empty pretty fast...

[chilly07]

Based on current rate of progress the entire UK population will have been innoculated before Thailand starts! Why o why is it taking so long? Profit shares must have been agreed by now!

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, chilly07 said:

Based on current rate of progress the entire UK population will have been innoculated before Thailand starts! Why o why is it taking so long? Profit shares must have been agreed by now!

 

The Uk paid a lot of money up front for the vaccines. Thailand didn’t. 
 

I think it’s just that simple. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

In case of more serious side effects, Dr. Thawee said sufferers must be admitted to hospital for treatment, adding that about 0.7% of those who develop serious side effects die or experience some disability, for which the state will provide compensation.

That figure may possibly be true as a generality based on the totality of all vaccines ever given historically (though I'd like to see where he's getting that figure from). However at least so far as I'm aware, there have been no deaths attributed to side effects of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine up to this point in time.

[4MyEgo]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Are they enroute? or are they still to be shipped.  If they are hung up and not here, why say it will be this month, although the DOA is not specified.

 

My guess would be that they have to keep the masses scared, reporting the numbers daily, got to take your medicine when it comes, 76 deaths in a year. Any states on how many died from Pneumonia or Influenza in the last year.....shhhhhh, stay on topic.

[Artisi]

27 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

My guess would be that they have to keep the masses scared, reporting the numbers daily, got to take your medicine when it comes, 76 deaths in a year. Any states on how many died from Pneumonia or Influenza in the last year.....shhhhhh, stay on topic.

or deaths on the roads daily, opp's off topic  .......

[DavisH]

10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Touch of scare mongering by the Dr there. If you're going to discuss side effects and percentages then give the whole picture for gods sake. Plus cite where you got these figures from.

I don't think that percentage is correct. Nearly 1 in 100 end up in hospital with serious side effects or death? That would be front page news all over the world. I'd take my chances with covid if it was 0.7 percent for the vaccine. 

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

My guess would be that they have to keep the masses scared, reporting the numbers daily, got to take your medicine when it comes, 76 deaths in a year. Any states on how many died from Pneumonia or Influenza in the last year.....shhhhhh, stay on topic.

Compare covid deaths with flu deaths in 2020. There has been 100 times more deaths due to covid in the uk. Then now you understand what a pandemic is.

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, DavisH said:

I don't think that percentage is correct. Nearly 1 in 100 end up in hospital with serious side effects or death? That would be front page news all over the world. I'd take my chances with covid if it was 0.7 percent for the vaccine. 

 

Agreed.... Just typical reporting - Throwing out a figure which has more than likely been misquoted. 

No one actually thinks about the number or basic fact checking before regurgitation the same rubbish. 

 

IF Dr. Thawee had in fact said 0.7% have complications any decent reporter would have questioned that... i.e. “Hang on a minute, think about 0.7% are sure? in every 1,000,000 people 7000 people may die? Are YOU sure  about that Dr??”

 

0.7% is clearly total rubbish.

 

 

As Denzel Washington responded when asked about reporting and fake news... He responded

“If you don’t read a news paper you’re uninformed, if you do you’re misinformed...... One of the effects of information is the need to be first, not even to be true anymore"

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/videoentertainment/denzel-washington-calls-upon-journalists-to-tell-the-truth/2016/12/14/b218db8e-c248-11e6-92e8-c07f4f671da4_video.html

 

 

 

[4MyEgo]

18 hours ago, DavisH said:

Compare covid deaths with flu deaths in 2020. There has been 100 times more deaths due to covid in the uk. Then now you understand what a pandemic is.

 

https://www.westonaprice.org/podcast/its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/?fbclid=IwAR0DOBgoAxzVa8eBjTlZssm05LpFI71jorrSOmA96HHzL5VvFFQZQaQn0V0

[wasabi]

On 2/3/2021 at 1:24 PM, chilly07 said:

Based on current rate of progress the entire UK population will have been innoculated before Thailand starts! Why o why is it taking so long? Profit shares must have been agreed by now!

Serious question is Thailand in last place for inoculations in Southeast Asia? I believe even Myanmar is ahead.

[GroveHillWanderer]

22 hours ago, DavisH said:

I don't think that percentage is correct. Nearly 1 in 100 end up in hospital with serious side effects or death? That would be front page news all over the world. I'd take my chances with covid if it was 0.7 percent for the vaccine. 

To be fair to the doctor, he didn't say that 0.7% of those who receive the vaccine might die, he said that some people might suffer serious side effects and of those who suffer serious side effects, 0.7% might die.

 

What he didn't say was what I think he probably meant (or what he should have meant, at any rate) is that with some vaccines in the past, as many as 0.7% of those who experienced serious side effects, died. As I said before, while that might be true from a historic perspective (and I don't actually know that it is true as I haven't seen that figure reported before) it certainly isn't true of the AstraZeneca vaccine, as far as the current data goes.

 

Edit: The only vaccine I know of that ever caused a significant number of deaths was the polio vaccine and that was only when, in 1955, one specific batch of the vaccine from a small family-owned company in California was incorrectly manufactured. Instead of containing a weakened form of the polio virus, it contained the live virus itself.

[GroveHillWanderer]

28 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Instead of containing a weakened form of the polio virus, it contained the live virus itself.

Incidentally this is one of the advantages of the current crop of "new technology" vaccines such as the mRNA and viral vector vaccines. There is never any live virus involved at any stage of their manufacture, so a manufacturing error such as the one that happened in 1955, just isn't possible.