Am I allowed to paint my garden fence?

[WineOh]

afternoon everyone.

Quick question regarding doing some DIY on my house.

 

Am I allowed, by law, to paint my garden fence?

the mrs has been pestering me for weeks to get it done but I told her I best check what the law says first.

 

The house is in my wifes name.

 

Cheers!

Edited February 5, 2021 by WineOh

[Crossy]

Assuming you live there so it's your residence I'm afraid you are going to have to get the paint brush out ???? 

 

Of couse this is my opinion only, I've never actually seen anything in writing.

[WineOh]

5 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Of couse this is my opinion only, I've never actually seen anything in writing.

I ain't moving a muscle until I see something in writing mate ???? 

[transam]

I painted my walls, inside and out, reluctantly...????

[KarenBravo]

Depends on your neighbours.......

[ramrod711]

There was a post on the forum once about a fellow cutting his own lawn. Apparently a neighbor complained that he was doing work that a Thai could do. I have been mowing my own lawn for more than a decade. Unfortunately none of my lazy neighbors has ever complained, I would be happy to pay them.

[ramrod711]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

I painted my walls, inside and out, reluctantly...????

I refuse to paint, I do plumbing, minor electrical, carry bags of soil and repair appliances, but I draw the line at painting

[jvs]

7 minutes ago, WineOh said:

I ain't moving a muscle until I see something in writing mate ???? 

Are you on retirement extension?If so,it says you are not allowed to work,show your wife that and you are off the hook!

You're welcome.

[Jonathan Fairfield]

26 minutes ago, WineOh said:

Am I allowed, by law, to paint my garden fence?

Absolutely you are.

 

It's one of the big myths among the expat community - dare to paint your garden fence and a SWAT team from the Labour  department will raid your home and lock you up for 'working' without a work permit!

 

Painting your fence, DIY, cutting the grass, washing  the  car or any other household chores, no problem at all.

 

The real question is, why would you  want to? They'll be a local guy who will no doubt do the job for a reasonable price. Let him graft, while you nip off to the pub. That'd be my advice. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, ramrod711 said:

I refuse to paint, I do plumbing, minor electrical, carry bags of soil and repair appliances, but I draw the line at painting

I do all that too, but I like jobs done properly, so I get on with it...

[ballpoint]

The one and only time that immigration paid a visit to my place, around 15 years ago, I was painting the outside walls of a new kitchen we had added on to the house.  They seemed very happy that I was doing my own work around the place, giving multiple thumbs up, and after a short visit, with me sitting in paint splattered t-shirt and shorts (I never said I was good at it), said they'd leave me to get back to my painting.  No problems at all.  In fact, my only worry was that one of them would ask me to come and paint their house afterwards.

[WineOh]

1 minute ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Absolutely you are.

 

It's one of the big myths among the expat community - dare to paint your garden fence and a SWAT team from the Labour  department will raid your home and lock you up for 'working' without a work permit!

 

Painting your fence, DIY, cutting the grass, washing  the  car or any other household chores, no problem at all.

 

 

can you point to any legal regs that says I can?

All i can find are the regs on paid and unpaid work.

If the house is in my wifes name and I am doing work unpaid, then surely I am breaking the law?

surely?

 

 

 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Absolutely you are.

 

It's one of the big myths among the expat community - dare to paint your garden fence and a SWAT team from the Labour  department will raid your home and lock you up for 'working' without a work permit!

 

Painting your fence, DIY, cutting the grass, washing  the  car or any other household chores, no problem at all.

 

 

With all due respects, I don't think that was the answer he was hoping for.????

[KannikaP]

16 minutes ago, WineOh said:

can you point to any legal regs that says I can?

All i can find are the regs on paid and unpaid work.

If the house is in my wifes name and I am doing work unpaid, then surely I am breaking the law?

surely?

 

 

 

If the house is in her name, she does the f.....g painting!

[WineOh]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

If the house is in her name, she does the f.....g painting!

Thank you, sir!

I shall show her this.

Cheers! ???? 

[CaptainCarrot]

To the young man considering marriage:

Treat your new wife gently. Introduce her to wifely duties slowly; make sure she has grasped cooking, cleaning, ironing, dusting etc. Then in the second year introduce important new skills: bricklaying, roofing, tree felling, painting and decorating and so on. If she is of a delicate nature it may be desirable to delay the introduction of sewer cleaning, construction of access roads, mine development etc to the third year. 

[vogie]

Just print this off and show it to your wife.

 

From the local Tessabaan.

 

Under no circumstances is WineOh allowed to paint his fence!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, CaptainCarrot said:

To the young man considering marriage:

Treat your new wife gently. Introduce her to wifely duties slowly; make sure she has grasped cooking, cleaning, ironing, dusting etc. Then in the second year introduce important new skills: bricklaying, roofing, tree felling, painting and decorating and so on. If she is of a delicate nature it may be desirable to delay the introduction of sewer cleaning, construction of access roads, mine development etc to the third year. 

Mrs.Trans has a problem even handing me a screwdriver when I am up a stepladder, mainly because her phone is permanently attached to one hand and the other is prodding it at an incredible speed. Combined, her grey cells get overloaded.....????

[Matreusse]

24 minutes ago, WineOh said:

27 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Absolutely you are.

 

It's one of the big myths among the expat community - dare to paint your garden fence and a SWAT team from the Labour  department will raid your home and lock you up for 'working' without a work permit!

 

Painting your fence, DIY, cutting the grass, washing  the  car or any other household chores, no problem at all.

 

 

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can you point to any legal regs that says I can?

Statutes do not usually specify what isn't an offence, they state what is an offence, so you won't find any laws that say that you are permitted to "work" in your own home. 

 

If it was illegal there would be a law describing the offence.

[WineOh]

Just now, Matreusse said:

Statutes do not usually specify what isn't an offence, they state what is an offence, so you won't find any laws that say that you are permitted to "work" in your own home. 

 

If it was illegal there would be a law describing the offence.

unpaid work is illegal, right?

Volunteering etc..

 

Would be interesting to see what would happen if the police were driving down my soi and they caught me paintbrush in hand.

[onebir]

40 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

Apparently a neighbor complained that he was doing work that a Thai could do.

Note to self: never pick nose in public.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, WineOh said:

unpaid work is illegal, right?

Volunteering etc..

 

Would be interesting to see what would happen if the police were driving down my soi and they caught me paintbrush in hand.

The very least is that you would be gunned down, not worth the risk.

[Matreusse]

7 minutes ago, WineOh said:

unpaid work is illegal, right?

Volunteering etc..

 

Would be interesting to see what would happen if the police were driving down my soi and they caught me paintbrush in hand.

Painting your own fence is not considered to be work (in the employment sense) that is non-permissible by Immigration. Neither do they consider it to be "voluntary work". 

 

If Immigration saw you, brush-in-hand, they would do nothing because there's be nothing for them to do.

 

The answers that you are getting are clearly not the answers that you wanted but there you go.

Edited February 5, 2021 by Matreusse

[WineOh]

Just now, Matreusse said:

If Immigration saw you, brush-in-hand, they would do nothing because there's be nothing for them to do.

Don't really wanna take any chances tbh.

[Matreusse]

1 minute ago, WineOh said:

2 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

If Immigration saw you, brush-in-hand, they would do nothing because there's be nothing for them to do.

Don't really wanna take any chances tbh.

Not much point in asking about it in your OP, then, eh?    

[WineOh]

2 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

Not much point in asking about it in your OP, then, eh?    

Well, there is.

If someone can point to where it says I can do unpaid work legally then the brush will be out like a shot.

Thus far nobody has been able to tell me with any certainty that it is actually legal.

Edited February 5, 2021 by WineOh

[Matreusse]

4 minutes ago, WineOh said:

Well, there is.

If someone can point to where it says I can do unpaid work legally then the brush will be out like a shot.

Thus far nobody has been able to tell me with any certainty that it is legal.

A few people have told you, with absolute certainty, that painting your own fence is legal.  What you want to do is not illegal and laws/regs do not point out what is legal. 

 

What you want to do is not "unpaid work" in the sense that you seem to want it to be, it's painting your own fence, that's all, no different from sweeping your own floor or doing you own washing-up.

Edited February 5, 2021 by Matreusse

[WineOh]

3 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

A few people have told you, with absolute certainty, that painting your own fence is legal.  What you want to do is not illegal and laws/regs do not point out what is legal. 

 

What you want to do is not "unpaid work" in the sense that you seem to want it to be, it's painting your own fence, that's all, no different from sweeping your own floor or doing you own washing-up.

I dunno.

sounds dodgy to me mate;.

[bunnydrops]

"Note that work under the Foreign Employment Act is described very broadly, i.e. working by exercising one's physical energy or employing one's knowledge, whether or not for wages or other benefits. "

 

Prohibited occupations for foreigners in Thailand

"Under Thai Law foreigners are prohibited to engage in any of the following occupations.

1. Manual work 
2. Work in agriculture, animal husbandry, forestry or fishery excluding specialized work in each particular branch or farm supervision 
3. Bricklaying, carpentry or other construction works 
4. Wood carving 
5. Driving mechanically propelled carried or driving non-mechanically-propelled vehicle, exc-----"

https://www.thailandlawonline.com/translations/foreign-employment-working-of-aliens-act

 

But I have been seen working in the families rice field and only got thumbs up and waves

 

[OneeyedJohn]

It's a chore, like taking out the rubbish, it's hardly work.