On 2/7/2021 at 11:34 AM, shackleton said:

It seems we are reading every week about the Doom and Gloom reality 

In Pattaya

Then the Tourist board comes up with ideas to say the foreign tourist will return  soon 

exaggerated breaking news.

19 hours ago, taxin said:

It’s very simple, in terms of tourism Hua Hin is seen an extension of Bangkok, Pattaya is not. You simply cannot compare as both locations were established for completely different reasons, one was set up for American sex pests, the other was established for the Bangkok elites, with a big royal influence. 
 

Thais were vacationing in Hua Hin long before Gi Joe was hitting the bars on Pattaya beach road. Even to this day many Bangkok Thais barely recognise Pattaya as an existence, its a place north of Rayong where foreigners go, a place where the poor Isaan girls go to sell their body’s to support their families, it has no identity.

 

Not suggesting Hua Hin is better, I like both, just saying Pattaya will die long before Hua Hin will.

False history from some old tour guide and a decade out of date. Domestic tourism, mostly from Bangkok, now represents maybe 30% of Pattaya's growing economy (and helping keep  Thai and Thai-foreign places afloat now). Traffic jams every weekend from BKK tourists, never mind holidays, lots of new clubs, restos, malls well patronized. Condos! I suspect it's already more popular with Bangkokians than old Hua Hin.  Nothing to suggest that the pre-COVID pattern won't reassert itself.

On 2/7/2021 at 2:22 PM, Bob12345 said:

Think you ment to type: "ideal to share with two or more ladies".

Think you meant to type: Think you MEANT to type????

54 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Traffic jams every weekend from BKK tourists

Not going to thrive on a two day week.

5 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Not going to thrive on a two day week.

 

 

No, but many might just survive on that.

 

 

Survival mode is where we are at the moment.

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

Not going to thrive on a two day week.

Usual straw man argument when the doomster narrative feels threatened.???? 

 

Again: no one ever said, thought, implied, or suggested in any way whatsoever, at any time in history, that domestic tourism is, or ever will be, a replacement for international tourism or that Pattaya doesn't need, want, and encourage international tourism. Feel better?

Well they can get started on rebuilding Pattaya nightlife while everyone in the province. Walking Street is in die need of a new face lift to include LK Metro area. 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

Usual straw man argument when the doomster narrative feels threatened.???? 

 

Again: no one ever said, thought, implied, or suggested in any way whatsoever, at any time in history, that domestic tourism is, or ever will be, a replacement for international tourism or that Pattaya doesn't need, want, and encourage international tourism. Feel better?

Definitely ......cheered me up no end........????

6 hours ago, BigStar said:

Pattaya's growing economy (and helping keep  Thai and Thai-foreign places afloat now). Traffic jams every weekend from BKK tourists

 

On 2/8/2021 at 4:06 PM, taxin said:

It’s very simple, in terms of tourism Hua Hin is seen an extension of Bangkok, Pattaya is not. You simply cannot compare as both locations were established for completely different reasons, one was set up for American sex pests, the other was established for the Bangkok elites, with a big royal influence. 
 

Thais were vacationing in Hua Hin long before Gi Joe was hitting the bars on Pattaya beach road. Even to this day many Bangkok Thais barely recognise Pattaya as an existence, its a place north of Rayong where foreigners go, a place where the poor Isaan girls go to sell their body’s to support their families, it has no identity.

 

Not suggesting Hua Hin is better, I like both, just saying Pattaya will die long before Hua Hin will.

Nonsense, many many Bangkok Thais in Pattaya during the weekends, doubt either will die.

 

They like the shopping centers and Jomtien beach.

 

The house opposite mine is owned by a BKK Thai, some buy condos, many of them high end (+10 mill)

So, the entertainment industry and its workers are in strife. For some reason I find this news somewhat satisfying. 

After all the scams, stealing and disrespect they have treated foreigners with its gives them time to realise where their money was coming from and appreciate their customers a bit more.

Karma is a bitch somchai and somying.

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On 2/9/2021 at 12:45 PM, hotandsticky said:

 

 

No, but many might just survive on that.

 

 

Survival mode is where we are at the moment.

 

Can they survive for at least another year, and even if they can, why would they try?  

8 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Can they survive for at least another year, and even if they can, why would they try?  

 

 

...because the alternative may not be attractive. 

 

An Isaan woman running a massage shop is different to the Nightwish Group etc, and they really don't prefer the lifestyle upcountry. The incentive to struggle on in an environment they are more comfortable is quite powerful.

9 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Can they survive for at least another year, and even if they can, why would they try?  

Do you suggest they just give up?

 

Then what?

On 2/9/2021 at 8:36 PM, Nsp64 said:

So, the entertainment industry and its workers are in strife. For some reason I find this news somewhat satisfying. 

After all the scams, stealing and disrespect they have treated foreigners with its gives them time to realise where their money was coming from and appreciate their customers a bit more.

Karma is a bitch somchai and somying.

I've never had any problems with the 'entertainment' ladies.

No scams, no disrespect, maybe a little stealing.

42 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've never had any problems with the 'entertainment' ladies.

No scams, no disrespect, maybe a little stealing.

And stealing is ok??

 

Strange statement...

 

There is nothing lower than a thief!

2 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

And stealing is ok??

Strange statement...

There is nothing lower than a thief!

Stealing is something many ladies do (my Brit former wife of 30 years stole 600,000 pounds from me).

The odd 100bht or 1,000bht missing from my wallet isn't a big deal for me, my fault for not putting my wallet in the safe at night.

 

In the big scheme of life, petty theft isn't that big a deal IMHO.

The appearance of love and affection is far more important to me.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Stealing is something many ladies do (my Brit former wife of 30 years stole 600,000 pounds from me).

The odd 100bht or 1,000bht missing from my wallet isn't a big deal for me, my fault for not putting my wallet in the safe at night.

 

In the big scheme of life, petty theft isn't that big a deal IMHO.

The appearance of love and affection is far more important to me.

The 600.00GBP mention is not stolen, it's compensation for being married to you.

 

Paid for by the hour love and affection ? - lol.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

In the big scheme of life, petty theft isn't that big a deal IMHO.

So is it something you are happy to do?

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The appearance of love and affection is far more important to me.

The appearance of you locking your wallet in the safe must really bring that out.

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

The appearance of you locking your wallet in the safe must really bring that out.

Back of the net....555

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7 hours ago, Surelynot said:

So is it something you are happy to do?

I've never needed to steal, I've never been poor, but can have sympathy for some who feel the need to steal.

And I can also understand cultures where stealing and corruption are nationally acceptable.

(Without indulging in those activities myself)

 

I'm sad the scene in Pattaya has come to this low point.

there was nowhere else quite like  it.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I've never needed to steal, I've never been poor, but can have sympathy for some who feel the need to steal.

And I can also understand cultures where stealing and corruption are nationally acceptable.

(Without indulging in those activities myself)

 

I'm sad the scene in Pattaya has come to this low point.

there was nowhere else quite like  it.

You've never been poor, all your comments on here are about how little you pay for your Nat King and how little you spend....is that not a contradiction?

 

Just for my info, what cultures is stealing accepted?

13 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I've never needed to steal, I've never been poor, but can have sympathy for some who feel the need to steal.

And I can also understand cultures where stealing and corruption are nationally acceptable.

(Without indulging in those activities myself)

 

I'm sad the scene in Pattaya has come to this low point.

there was nowhere else quite like  it.

Watched an interview with a recidivist (Middlesbrough)...his argument was the same....he was unemployed and lived on a 'council' estate opposite a well-heeled area (if there is such a thing in Middlesbrough).......when asked why did he regularly go over and break into properties and steal?......They have stuff and I don't.

20 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

You've never been poor, all your comments on here are about how little you pay for your Nat King and how little you spend....is that not a contradiction?

 

Just for my info, what cultures is stealing accepted?

Thai....

16 minutes ago, Nsp64 said:

Thai....

Example?

2 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Example?

Read the news and then see the lack of outrage by thai citizens......ask them what they think and they just raise their eyebrows and say something along the lines of " thai style.....or.....normal in thailand"  totally accepting of the theft and crime.

As demonstrated by the lack of action by police and courts when something gets pinched.

1 minute ago, Nsp64 said:

Read the news and then see the lack of outrage by thai citizens......ask them what they think and they just raise their eyebrows and say something along the lines of " thai style.....or.....normal in thailand"  totally accepting of the theft and crime.

As demonstrated by the lack of action by police and courts when something gets pinched.

So no example of stealing.

 

What you refer to is corruption.