Thailand records its first case of South African strain of COVID-19

[PGSan]

44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

However you say its statistically insignificant? I differ in opinion and find it remarkably significant

But ‘remarkable’ and ‘statistical’ significance are remarkably distinct!  

[PGSan]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

no one is able to call this virus the China or Chinese virus?

What has the ‘forum rules’ got to do with naming it? 

[PGSan]

2 hours ago, Suua said:

last official figure I saw was 3000

figure for what?  and where did you ‘see it’??

[SupermarineS6B]

9 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

I just love how nobody is able to call the virus the China virus but everyone is so eager to attribute the strains to specific countries. 

 

I'm calling the China Virus. 

100 %   It's a mutation of the China virus and as we all know it will continue mutating as viruses do......  So what's next ? We've got the British, Brasilian and South African ones......... But the truth is they all originated in China....      

[webfact]

Thailand finds South African COVID-19 variant in quarantine

 

A health worker organises samples collected for further testing at Thanon Mitr Market, amid the spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in Bangkok, Thailand, January 19, 2021. REUTERS/Chalinee Thirasupa/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand reported 143 new coronavirus infections on Monday and in quarantine detected its first case of the highly contagious COVID-19 variant first found in South Africa, its coronavirus taskforce said.

 

Two new deaths were reported, taking fatalities to 82, with overall cases at 24,714, the majority of which have come in the past two months.

 

The South African variant was found in a Thai man who had travelled from Tanzania and was undergoing the mandatory quarantine for all arrivals from abroad, the taskforce said at a briefing.

 

South Africa halted the planned rollout last week of AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine, which Thailand will use for its mass immunisation programme, after data showed it gave minimal protection against mild-to-moderate infection.

 

South African scientists say there is no clear evidence the variant is associated with more severe disease or worse outcomes, but say it spreads faster.

 

A World Health Organization panel last week said that AstraZeneca's vaccine should be deployed widely, however, including in countries where the South African variant may reduce its efficacy.

 

(Reporting by Patpicha Tanakasempipat; Editing by Martin Petty)

 

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[PGSan]

1 hour ago, TKDfella said:

Well for a start, the man himself could have infected someone before testing.

And after testing too.

[NoshowJones]

Just now, PGSan said:

What has the ‘forum rules’ got to do with naming it? 

 It was just the way it was worded. "no one is able to". who is the "no one"? It wasn't going to be me, as long as no forum rule was broken. Does that answer your question?

[Jimbo2014]

4 hours ago, sandhurstmolonski said:

I agree , but the other way around .

 

Western countries reporting Covid deaths that are simply not , no flu , no pneumonia , no dengee ( where applicable ) just CV CV and CV .

Look at total deaths all causes ,also most older deaths occur with CV , just as may well have been the case , with flu .

Total deaths all causes .

 

Absolutely.  Covid has an extremely low mortality in healthy young to moderately aged people (Ive had it).  If this had hit the west around the time of the Spanish flue (which killed largely young people), it would have barely been noticed.  Many of the deaths from CV happen in people with a high risk of mortality.  Western countries are aging and CV is largely a disease of western countries.  The sad part is that it will hit hardest financially in developing countries whose economies wont  bounce back as easily. 

[Fex Bluse]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

We know you have a problem with China.

Yes. I do. And, I'm not ashamed to say so. 

[metisdead]

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[KhaoYai]

13 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

Just as in previous months when some accused Thailand of unrecorded covid cases, the "if Thailand has more covid cases then why aren't the hospitals full and why aren't there dead bodies in the streets" crowd quickly shouted them down. 

Whilst its clear that Thailand has not had large amounts of infections compared to some countries, I would caution against your underlying assertion that Thailand has been honest about its actual infection numbers.

 

You might have noticed the news item last week where an official was stating that testing would be limited due to the cost.  Then there's the unexplained rises in deaths from other diseases - flu for example.  I remember last year that after a few months of showing significant rises in deaths from flu, it was reported that the webpage recording them was suddenly taken down.

 

I'm not trying to claim that Thailand is rampant with Covid 19 but I take figures produced by a government that has a history of having a rather 'loose' relationship with the truth, with a large pinch of salt.

[SunsetT]

3 hours ago, TKDfella said:

Well for a start, the man himself could have infected someone before testing.

All staff and officials meeting arrivals at Suvarnabhumi are in full protective clothing and they are transported directly to their ASQ hotel without contact with anyone else.

[FarFlungFalang]

25 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

All staff and officials meeting arrivals at Suvarnabhumi are in full protective clothing and they are transported directly to their ASQ hotel without contact with anyone else.

Don't forget the plane load of passengers he travelled with on the plane.

[SunsetT]

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Don't forget the plane load of passengers he travelled with on the plane.

Surely you understand that ALL passengers are quarantined on arrival.

[NNNN]

I hope the peoble rise up abd take the goverment and army down! Non danger man made scare campain! 

[FarFlungFalang]

20 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Surely you understand that ALL passengers are quarantined on arrival.

Surely the man could have infected someone before he was tested, like on the plane before they were quarantined.

[SunsetT]

5 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Surely the man could have infected someone before he was tested, like on the plane before they were quarantined.

I give up!

 

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Surely the man could have infected someone before he was tested, like on the plane before they were quarantined.

As Thai's don't need a covid test before boarding a flight back to Thailand then thats very possible

Edited February 15, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[kimamey]

10 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Hate to disappoint you, but up Khon Kaen, and Maha Sarakham, way, the locals are saying covid is rampant, they are terrified.

I'm back in the UK at the moment but according to my wife in Mahasarakham a doctor had it so there are a lot of contacts that may be spreading it. 

Not sure how many are terrified but it certainly seems to be a problem right now. 

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, Percy P said:

But did it actually start in China.Who not sure.

Not that I think it matters where Covid 19 actually started but despite China's claims that the virus was imported on frozen seafood, I think its 99.9% certain that it did originate there.  The seafood had to come from somewhere yet no other country was reporting a cluster of a strange new illness at that time.

 

China, in line with other authoritarian states, takes any criticism very badly and its clear that they tried to keep things quiet about the serious threat the virus they discovered amongst the residents of Wuhan.  Again, in line with the methods employed by authoritarian states, they refused to allow third parties in to investigate.  They hate 'bad publicity' and they don't seem to realise that sentiment against them would have been far less likely if they had come clean in the first place and issued warnings.

 

I can't see what the purpose of the WHO's recent visit was - coming as it did over a year after the first infection was found. What did they expect to find? Complete, undoctored reports, people prepared to (and able to) talk privately and honestly to them?  If there had been any evidence that pointed to the location of the origin of the virus - did they think they would find it? 100% that China will have carried out a massive 'clean up' of both premises and records before they allowed the WHO's visit. It should also be noted that the WHO team were not given complete and unfettered access to all locations and information.

 

We are where we are, its a bit late to be pointing fingers but I wouldn't place too much trust in the WHO's findings.

[FarFlungFalang]

29 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

We are where we are, its a bit late to be pointing fingers but I wouldn't place too much trust in the WHO's findings.

With about 5.6 billion fingers already pointing at China I'm not sure finger pointing was the (main) aim of the exercise unless something untoward has happened, it's possible some people want to know the exact origin for scientific reasons such as possibly preventing a similar event occurring or establishing an early response strategy no matter where the next event occurred.I think that the slow response to this event could have occurred anywhere in the world.Remember that the rest of the world dithered as much if not more than China by allowing international travel to continue for as long as they did.Personally I think the massive amounts of testing going on is making this pandemic seem much worse than many previous nasty pandemics and the way a covid death is defined is also contributing to this.We have not had the technology or will to test and count infections like we have been.I keep thinking about what the numbers would be like in the 1958 and 1968 pandemics where 1 million flu deaths occurred if we had the same testing and counting policies in place,I suspect they would be similar numbers to this pandemic.

Edited February 15, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, PGSan said:

What has the ‘forum rules’ got to do with naming it? 

From one report I read the WHO named it  Covid 19  ( from 'CO'rona 'VI'rus 'D'isease 20'19' ) to avoid pointing to any particular country or area of origin.

All depends who is paying the bills I suppose.

[gigman]

<deleted>.

Whole world has infected brain with fear .

The best weapon against humanity ...

stupid humanity.

[NoComment]

Congratulations to all concerned for catching this strain.

The Kingdom is doing a fantastic job of controlling the Chinese  pandamic.

Many many Western countries could learn a lesson.

[David T Pike]

12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

They caught him while he was infectious and after a flight with others into Thailand so sorry, it's a bit too late to claim Thailand is safe.

So he got it on or before the flight. All that came in with him had to do ASQ so I am sure they are all over those on that flight...

[KhaoYai]

3 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

it's possible some people want to know the exact origin for scientific reasons such as possibly preventing a similar event occurring or establishing an early response strategy no matter where the next event occurred.

And did they get it?  Will they?  Over 12 months have passed.

[Meat Pie 47]

19 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

He didn't catch it in Tanzania.  We know this because Tanzania, along with Thailand's neighbors Lao and Cambodia, have no deaths and very few cases of Covid.

 

In the event anyone tries to claim Tanzania or Lao or Cambodia are fudging their covid numbers don't bother.  Just as in previous months when some accused Thailand of unrecorded covid cases, the "if Thailand has more covid cases then why aren't the hospitals full and why aren't there dead bodies in the streets" crowd quickly shouted them down.  Don't temp the same fate from this crowd since there are also no full hospitals or bodies in the streets in Tanzania, Cambodia or Lao, so their covid numbers must be correct.

 

Therefore he caught it in Ethiopia. 

Yes doctor

[Meat Pie 47]

7 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

Yes. I do. And, I'm not ashamed to say so. 

I have a problem with China as well but it is not proven the virus originated in China

just detected there first

[RT555]

Just check the Afrikans along Sukhumvit......they may know something...

[irishman25]

this Virus has been around for over 18.months before anyone knew what it was then they called the COVID-19 virus look what is happening now with  this strain now we can discover sooner.  Now did you know where the so called SPANISH flu started do your homework because you wont like the answer