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Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application

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I'm in the batch that got the interview in August 2024, one year ago. The application is now pending HE the Minister's signature. 

Does anybody have any contacts into the MOI and know whether HE is inclined to sign citizenship applications? It would be great to know whether the process is continuing. 

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Hello everyone,

 

I'm currently building my citizenship file and would like a few info, I am PR for 5 years and 1 months and not married yet.

 

1) For the 2 Thai persons who need to fil a form, do they need to show up at any future meeting or interview ?

Or it just stops at the form and personal documents (ID, Tabien Baan)

 

2) Has anyone already passed the test ? Is a sample available to speedup and ease the learnings ?

 

Thank you !

2 hours ago, Alex19 said:

Hello everyone,

 

I'm currently building my citizenship file and would like a few info, I am PR for 5 years and 1 months and not married yet.

 

1) For the 2 Thai persons who need to fil a form, do they need to show up at any future meeting or interview ?

Or it just stops at the form and personal documents (ID, Tabien Baan)

 

2) Has anyone already passed the test ? Is a sample available to speedup and ease the learnings ?

 

Thank you !

The 2 Thai references will be contacted directly by the relevant authorities if they feel that there is a need to cross check some of your submissions. They are not required to be formally present at any meeting or in any office. Mine were never contacted at all.

 

Regarding the test, it is a simple bunch of questions and you pick one of the multiple answers provided below the question. Related to Thai culture, history or everyday life. You won't fail if you have worked here for 5yrs unless you have completely isolated yourself from local people, language, culture, food etc.

Irrelevant bickering posts removed. Please stay on topic. Thank you.

Exactly one year ago (30th Aug 2024) some of us attended the big MOI Committee meeting somewhere in the far outskirts of Bangkok in an old government office building. And no news after that, total silence. I did not imagine it will be such a long & anxious wait. And now with the likelihood of Parliment collapsing & further chaos, it is not looking good at all. I try not to feel dejected.

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55 minutes ago, saakura said:

Exactly one year ago (30th Aug 2024) some of us attended the big MOI Committee meeting somewhere in the far outskirts of Bangkok in an old government office building. And no news after that, total silence. I did not imagine it will be such a long & anxious wait. And now with the likelihood of Parliment collapsing & further chaos, it is not looking good at all. I try not to feel dejected.

I was in that batch too, brother. I call them every couple of months and ask about the progress. Last update (in June) was "waiting for the Minister to sign". I think the current Minister of the Interior is kind of busy at the moment with other things going on. Please feel free to call DOPA Lamlukka, but I don't think they have any news either. 

 

Don't feel dejected. We just don't have the priority that other issues do. If anybody has any connections into the Ministry itself and can share what the Minister thinks in principle about naturalisation (and whether he is even aware of the pile waiting for his signature), that would be great.

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On 8/31/2025 at 9:52 AM, onthemoon said:

I was in that batch too, brother. I call them every couple of months and ask about the progress. Last update (in June) was "waiting for the Minister to sign". I think the current Minister of the Interior is kind of busy at the moment with other things going on. Please feel free to call DOPA Lamlukka, but I don't think they have any news either. 

 

Don't feel dejected. We just don't have the priority that other issues do. If anybody has any connections into the Ministry itself and can share what the Minister thinks in principle about naturalisation (and whether he is even aware of the pile waiting for his signature), that would be great.

They don't have the budget to conduct citizenship interviews.

No interviews in the last 12 months

On 8/31/2025 at 8:50 AM, saakura said:

Exactly one year ago (30th Aug 2024) some of us attended the big MOI Committee meeting somewhere in the far outskirts of Bangkok in an old government office building. And no news after that, total silence. I did not imagine it will be such a long & anxious wait. And now with the likelihood of Parliment collapsing & further chaos, it is not looking good at all. I try not to feel dejected.

That is Lam Lukka , pathumthani, not Bangkok.

 

Did you call your case officer and ask him for oath?

On 8/31/2025 at 11:50 AM, saakura said:

Exactly one year ago (30th Aug 2024) some of us attended the big MOI Committee meeting somewhere in the far outskirts of Bangkok in an old government office building. And no news after that, total silence. I did not imagine it will be such a long & anxious wait. And now with the likelihood of Parliment collapsing & further chaos, it is not looking good at all. I try not to feel dejected.

A one year wait is not unusual. Don't lose heart.

5 hours ago, DrJoy said:

That is Lam Lukka , pathumthani, not Bangkok.

 

Did you call your case officer and ask him for oath?

No. My initial case officer was a very young lady whom I met a few times. But when I got the call for the MOI interview a few years later, it was from a man whom I have never met till today except for that one call.

2 hours ago, Lightyear said:

A one year wait is not unusual. Don't lose heart.

Thank you for the words of comfort. In this (very long) forum topic which I have been following for many years, I got the impression that they call for the oath within 4-6 months, which is why I am getting worried. 

5 hours ago, DrJoy said:

They don't have the budget to conduct citizenship interviews.

No interviews in the last 12 months

Thanks for the info.

5 hours ago, DrJoy said:

They don't have the budget to conduct citizenship interviews.

No interviews in the last 12 months

But we are among those who have passed all the hoops & interviews. And just need to take oath of allegiance to the Monarchy & Nation. From previous posters that have posted, it is not a grand ceremony & cannot be costing a monumental budget.

2 hours ago, saakura said:

But we are among those who have passed all the hoops & interviews. And just need to take oath of allegiance to the Monarchy & Nation. From previous posters that have posted, it is not a grand ceremony & cannot be costing a monumental budget.

Everything is done in batches. Your whole batch will be called for oath. Similarly, the RG is published for a lot of candidates simultaneously.

 

Priority is like this -

1. Women 

2.  Men married to Thai ladies

3. PR holders

 

It's like this since ages.

 

What is your worry? 

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8 hours ago, saakura said:

Thank you for the words of comfort. In this (very long) forum topic which I have been following for many years, I got the impression that they call for the oath within 4-6 months, which is why I am getting worried. 

Think of your Thai citizenship application as a background project. The inner workings at the IM are completely opaque to you, and there's nothing you can do to speed things up. My application took a total of two and a half years, nearly all of which was waiting on the IM. I'd almost given up and resigned myself to being a PR forever, then finally I got it, and it's certainly been worth all the effort.

6 hours ago, Lightyear said:

Think of your Thai citizenship application as a background project. The inner workings at the IM are completely opaque to you, and there's nothing you can do to speed things up. My application took a total of two and a half years, nearly all of which was waiting on the IM. I'd almost given up and resigned myself to being a PR forever, then finally I got it, and it's certainly been worth all the effort.

Wow, 2 and half only? Which year did you apply?

1 hour ago, DrJoy said:

Wow, 2 and half only? Which year did you apply?

 

I applied in 2005 - I was told at the time by the folks at Special Branch that my application was approved "quickly". At that time, so I was told, a lot of applications went into indefinite limbo, and that the outcome was impossible to predict, which made my waiting for the IM all the more fraught with the prospect of disappointment. This prospect of failure, with no reason given, doesn't seem to be the case anymore: Applicants who post their experiences here all seem to get approved sooner or later.

1 hour ago, Lightyear said:

 

I applied in 2005 - I was told at the time by the folks at Special Branch that my application was approved "quickly". At that time, so I was told, a lot of applications went into indefinite limbo, and that the outcome was impossible to predict, which made my waiting for the IM all the more fraught with the prospect of disappointment. This prospect of failure, with no reason given, doesn't seem to be the case anymore: Applicants who post their experiences here all seem to get approved sooner or later.

Good to know, Thanks

On 9/3/2025 at 2:32 PM, DrJoy said:

Good to know, Thanks

I was one of those who went into "indefinite limbo." Didn't take their silence for silence, since I got pretty high points and made them re-ignite my application, which then passed some 15 years later 🫡

10 hours ago, heiri007 said:

I was one of those who went into "indefinite limbo." Didn't take their silence for silence, since I got pretty high points and made them re-ignite my application, which then passed some 15 years later 🫡

It took 15 yrs for you to get citizenship?

10 hours ago, DrJoy said:

It took 15 yrs for you to get citizenship?

Well I applied under the first Thaksin admin and my super helpful handler at police headquarters "disappeared" with the political you-know-what... and so apparently did many files 🤪

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On 9/3/2025 at 12:51 PM, Lightyear said:

 

I applied in 2005 - I was told at the time by the folks at Special Branch that my application was approved "quickly". At that time, so I was told, a lot of applications went into indefinite limbo, and that the outcome was impossible to predict, which made my waiting for the IM all the more fraught with the prospect of disappointment. This prospect of failure, with no reason given, doesn't seem to be the case anymore: Applicants who post their experiences here all seem to get approved sooner or later.

 

That was a couple of years after Thaksin's first interior minister, the xenophobic Purachai, who nonetheless had PR and property in NZ, threw a bomb into the PR and citizenship processes, claiming that most applicants were worthless at best or criminals. Files were knocked back to Immigration and SB en bloc creating delays of 3+ years.   

 

The first Thaksin administration marked the beginning of the black hole doctrine at the MOI, whereby it started to be considered OK to let applicants languish for years with no news or trash their applications completely without saying anything.  When I applied for PR in 1997 I was told by Immigration that the MOI had a policy to process all applications within 12 months.  Their concept then was to get all the prior year applications out of the way before starting work on the next batch.  Citizenship took around three years.  The Prayut administration with Anuphong as IM got back to this ideal for a couple of years before the jungle grew over the trail again.  

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On 9/2/2025 at 8:59 PM, saakura said:

But we are among those who have passed all the hoops & interviews. And just need to take oath of allegiance to the Monarchy & Nation. From previous posters that have posted, it is not a grand ceremony & cannot be costing a monumental budget.

 

The budget is minimal because the oath takes place in the SB office and takes a few minutes, excluding the preparation and discussion, and documents checking beforehand.  Applicants are often asked to bring some flowers and SB provides some incense.  

 

The do tend to do them in batches over a few days but the ceremony is one by one.  I didn't see any other applicants when I did it, as we didn't overlap. 

 

Bear in mind that women adopting Thai hubbies' nationality is not counted as naturalisation. As they are just considered extensions of their husbands, no oath taking is required of them.

34 minutes ago, Arkady said:

That was a couple of years after Thaksin's first interior minister, the xenophobic Purachai, who nonetheless had PR and property in NZ, threw a bomb into the PR and citizenship processes,

That figures. My application was approved by Kongsak Wanthana (the IM during Thaksin 1). Then, following royal assent, it was enacted into law by Aree Wongsareeya (Prayuth's first IM, if I remember correctly,  but after the coup).

 

When you say that "the jungle grew over the trail again", do you mean that the dreaded indefinite limbo has returned? A poster here was worried that he's waited a year, which doesn't seem long, even when the system was working at its best. Are there people who have applied in recent years who haven't heard anything after prolonged periods of time?

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48 minutes ago, Arkady said:

The budget is minimal because the oath takes place in the SB office and takes a few minutes, excluding the preparation and discussion, and documents checking beforehand.  Applicants are often asked to bring some flowers and SB provides some incense.  

My oath was similarly low key. I was asked to turn up in a suit, with a candle, a lotus flower and incense sticks - of the kind people use when they pray at the temple. 

 

The shrine where I took my oath was in a small room in Special Branch. I knelt before it, clutching my candle, lotus flower and incense in a wai, while reciting each line of the oath as it was read out by the officer. No grand ceremony, but I'll never forget it.

On 9/9/2025 at 12:32 PM, Arkady said:

claiming that most applicants were worthless at best or criminals

They feed such poison to their children via TV drama. I watched a Thai tv drama starring Kimberly ( Thai tv star )

In which they portrayed that foreigners are very fraud, corrupt and impolite while Thais are super polite, upright, ultra honest people.

Well, looks like game over for me. I am being forced to retire at the end of May next year. Been waiting for the MOI interview for three years now. Some have been waiting longer than me, so even if they start the MOI meetings up again pronto, it's very unlikely my name will be called before I a have to leave the company I work for. I dread the idea of starting a company and paying myself just to keep a work permit for a couple or three years. Has anyone had to do something like that? How much of a hassle and cost is it to start a company, maintain a work permit and then close the company?

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