Thailand reports biggest daily jump in new COVID-19 cases

[realfunster]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Still a jump of 18, but I am sure had they not curtailed testing two days ago because of a lack of bed space here in Bangkok the numbers could be higher.

 

Indeed, testing has been reduced and I expect they are quite keen to keep below the psychological barrier of 1,000 for as long as possible. 

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, realfunster said:

 

Actually, not having it !

The daily new case numbers have been increasing steadily for 8-10 days, so if they are referring to daily rates why would they say the following and not biggest daily jump for 10th day in a row..

 

It's semantics, you say potatoe I say potato.  That's what it comes down to, a title written to show an increase in daily numbers, plain and simple.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Thai Govt facing backlash as third wave of COVID threatens to engulf Thailand

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1213620-thai-govt-facing-backlash-as-third-wave-of-covid-threatens-to-engulf-thailand/

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Are you the glass half full or glass half empty type???  ????

 

Worst case scenario: Thailand faces 28,000 new COVID-19 cases PER DAY

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1213616-worst-case-scenario-thailand-faces-28000-new-covid-19-cases-per-day/

 

OR

 

DCD says COVID-19 infection rise will ease in a month if prevention is strictly enforced

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1213585-dcd-says-covid-19-infection-rise-will-ease-in-a-month-if-prevention-is-strictly-enforced/

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[BestB]

Totally unexpected, wait for 3-4 days when everyone returns from Songkran and watch numbers double and again experts will roll their eyes in disbelief.

 

how on earth not limiting travel to and from red zones could bring such results 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Seems the government has noted Chula virologist Dr. Poovorawan pitching the claimed effectiveness of the AstraZeneca and Chinese Sinovac vaccines being given here...

 

This is the Google Translate version, corrected for typos, of the government's info post:

 

"Yong Phu Worawan, head of the specialist center in clinical science, Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, points out vaccines that are injected in Thailand. Both Sinovac and AstraZeneca are effective. Well, prevents severe illness and 100 percent prevents death. Not different from other vaccines. Less to moderate prevention. Sinovac vaccine can protect 78 percent. AstraZeneca 76 Percentage and Anti-Mutant England. Please ensure that the vaccine performance is used in Thailand."

 

The post seems to be making the claim that while the two vaccines may be lower than others at preventing all coronavirus symptoms, he's arguing they're still effective at preventing serious illness and death...

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/304585771159754

 

[crazykopite]

That’s reported cases what about those out in the sticks up north who have no means of getting to a doctor or hospital languishing in there bed at home or those living on there own with no support , I expect the numbers to multiply in the next few days with millions travelling home for the biggest holiday of the year its seems crazy to shut down bars yet public transport will be full of Covid carriers unaware that they have it .

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Thailand news and travel blogger Richard Barrow is calling Chiang Mai Thailand's "new hotspot" for COVID, with local authorities there releasing their own daily update as their new cases count exceeds Bangkok:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/richardbarrowthailand/posts/311458357007101

 

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ThailandRyan]

As I stated last Wednesday in another post I started to observe an influx of Bangkok plated Hi-So vehicles arriving at the hotel I was staying at.  Seems maybe others had been arriving in other locales with Chiang Mai and brought the virus with them or maybe it entered Chiang Mai a different way.  Regardless of how it arrived it is there now and they have a problem with an overload of patients it appears.  Stay safe folks is all I can say.  Glad I decided to Isolate at home once I returned to Bangkok on Friday.  I know we should be okay as we only had contact with a friend from Bangkok we picked up at the Airport and then our driver who drove us places.  The Airport would be the only place we were in contact with many folks and as of now we have not been contacted. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Government post on the typical symptoms being found with the current strain of COVID cases in Thailand:

 

"New variant come with new PUI symptoms.

If you have following symptoms including conjunctivitis, rash, runny nose, no fever. and you are young people. the medical attention at hospital is requested and you must provide the risk history to the health care provider."

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/OICDDC/posts/3861686363951928

 

[trainman34014]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

"The Sole Splasher: Once a traditional hotspot for Songkran revelry, Khaosan Road is relatively quiet today after the government has cancelled Songkran events and closed down bars this year due to the recent surge of COVID-19 infections around the country."

 

https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4222962894389277

 

One is one too many...Lock him up !

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Government post on the typical symptoms being found with the current strain of COVID cases in Thailand:

 

"New variant come with new PUI symptoms.

If you have following symptoms including conjunctivitis, rash, runny nose, no fever. and you are young people. the medical attention at hospital is requested and you must provide the risk history to the health care provider."

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/OICDDC/posts/3861686363951928

 

Sounds like what I get with my seasonal allergies, interesting.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

31 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Are you the glass half full or glass half empty type???  ????

 

Worst case scenario: Thailand faces 28,000 new COVID-19 cases PER DAY

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1213616-worst-case-scenario-thailand-faces-28000-new-covid-19-cases-per-day/

 

OR

 

DCD says COVID-19 infection rise will ease in a month if prevention is strictly enforced

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1213585-dcd-says-covid-19-infection-rise-will-ease-in-a-month-if-prevention-is-strictly-enforced/

 

 

 

Seems the government's current middle ground, average daily case projection if the public doesn't observe safety measures is Thailand heading for more than 9,000 new cases per day.

 

"More than 28,000 people could be infected by COVID-19 per day over the next month if no disease control measures are put in place during the current spike.

 

Department of Disease Control (DDC) deputy director-general Dr Sophon Iamsirithaworn said according to a mathematical model to predict the number of people who could become infected per day if safety measures were not observed, 9,140 projected average cases per day, with lowest 1,308 cases per day and maximum 28,678 in a worst-case scenario.

 

He said most of the kingdom's new transmissions were linked to pub clusters that have now spread to 70 provinces in the kingdom. The situation is still worrying because the disease has now spread to several provinces, though the situation is still manageable if all involved join hands."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157945061207050

 

 

[rabas]

 

 

1 hour ago, realfunster said:

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand on Monday reported 985 new COVID-19 cases, the biggest daily jump for a second day in a row, ...

Hello Thai Visa news, what on earth are you going on about ? 

Today’s case numbers have increased by 18 from yesterday.

 

Perhaps an honest mistake but suggest you check your articles more carefully or you may lose credibility....

 

Realfunster...check your numbers.

 

Thailand Monday reported 985 new cases, the biggest daily jump for a second day in a row,

Yesterdays daily jump was 967 new cases, smaller  than today's.

 

Our scientists are saying that 985 is larger than 967.

 

Two days in a row, because the previous biggest jump was 943 on February 2. 2021 .

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

Edited April 12, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comment removed

[ramrod711]

2 hours ago, Sharp said:

What's the best way to get everyone on board with vaccines ...ummmm!!

Pay them, I'm not joking. In my father in law's village people would line up around the block for 100 baht, even if they had to take a vaccine to get it.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Seems the government is having to try to combat various legitimately fake "news" content being posted on social media regarding the coronavirus outbreak here.

 

Yesterday, they put out an announcement specifically rejecting some info that was circulating about supposedly free vaccine offers that were available at places that they weren't. And today, they've got another announcement rejecting claims about COVID risk from parcels being delivered via ThaiPost.

 

Health authorities these days generally say there's very little chance of contracting COVID by touching surfaces, and especially with the time involved in sending packages thru the mail. But the government announcement also notes in translation -- "Spray to disinfect every postal car and every parcel from abroad."

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

After taking the weekend off, National News of Thailand is back today with their EN version of today's new COVID cases reported by province, for each and every province. (The domestic cases tally excludes the 5 new cases that came via traveler quarantine today)

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157945217322050

 

[wensiensheng]

2 hours ago, Sharp said:

What's the best way to get everyone on board with vaccines ...ummmm!!

Well, how about making them available to those who ARE on board first. Deal with the others later!

[yeahbutif]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The government's own chart now showing the daily rise in cases during April:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/304577117827286

 

So the chart above says 967  on the 11th April and on the 10th April say 789 . So to make this clear is it a a daily figer of New infection ? Over cumulative figer? It does say new so I would have thought infections are going up by near 20% every day ?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 minutes ago, yeahbutif said:

So the chart above says 967  on the 11th April and on the 10th April say 789 . So to make this clear is it a a daily figer of New infection ? Over cumulative figer? It does say new so I would have thought infections are going up by near 20% every day ?

 

Each number on the chart is the number of new COVID cases reported for that single day.

 

The numbers are NOT cumulative totals, in this particular chart.

 

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[John Drake]

49 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

That’s reported cases what about those out in the sticks up north who have no means of getting to a doctor or hospital languishing in there bed at home or those living on there own with no support , I expect the numbers to multiply in the next few days with millions travelling home for the biggest holiday of the year its seems crazy to shut down bars yet public transport will be full of Covid carriers unaware that they have it .

 

My wife went back to her village in Chaiyaphum a couple of days ago. At that time, there was one person with Covid in the village across the highway. (And this is way out in the sticks; over an hour and a half from Khon Kaen; not even a 7 Eleven within anything resembling close range) Today, there are five Covid cases in her village. Nobody going to a hospital; just everyone at home and being told they cannot drink alcohol in public.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://www.facebook.com/OICDDC/posts/3861739537279944

[Nojohndoe]

43 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Seems the government has noted Chula virologist Dr. Poovorawan pitching the claimed effectiveness of the AstraZeneca and Chinese Sinovac vaccines being given here...

 

This is the Google Translate version, corrected for typos, of the government's info post:

 

"Yong Phu Worawan, head of the specialist center in clinical science, Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, points out vaccines that are injected in Thailand. Both Sinovac and AstraZeneca are effective. Well, prevents severe illness and 100 percent prevents death. Not different from other vaccines. Less to moderate prevention. Sinovac vaccine can protect 78 percent. AstraZeneca 76 Percentage and Anti-Mutant England. Please ensure that the vaccine performance is used in Thailand."

 

The post seems to be making the claim that while the two vaccines may be lower than others at preventing all coronavirus symptoms, he's arguing they're still effective at preventing serious illness and death...

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/304585771159754

 

"The post seems to be making the claim that while the two vaccines may be lower than others at preventing all coronavirus symptoms, he's arguing they're still effective at preventing serious illness and death..." ?

In all available studies the statistical evidence indicates rather than simply argues exactly that.... the efficacy in preventing serious to life threatening infection remains as 100% high despite not being so effective in preventing developing at all.  Something is better than nothing surely?

There is also some serious consideration of the concept that in the longer term immune response to second exposure may be stronger in those who have experienced the real virus but have also been minimally  effected by virtue of a primed immune system.

A similar conjecture to the surprise results of the trails outcome  with AZ where participants who received a small dose followed by a standard dose developed a much stronger response .

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

COVID-19 Situation in Thailand on 12 April 2021.

"985 new confirmed COVID-19 cases were reported, 634 cases are local transmission, 346 cases were found from Active Cases Finding, and 5 cases were reported in quarantine facilities including Russia (2), Sweden(1), and Germany(2).

.

Of those, the total confirmed cases are 33,610 cases, 28,248 cases (84.05%) were recovered, 5,265 cases are being treats, 97 cases (0.29%) were died."

 

https://www.facebook.com/OICDDC/posts/3861649120622319

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, realfunster said:

 

Hello Thai Visa news, what on earth are you going on about ? 

Today’s case numbers have increased by 18 from yesterday.

 

Perhaps an honest mistake but suggest you check your articles more carefully or you may lose credibility....

Exactly, it is all about how you want to manipulate the English language to create a headline, misleading or otherwise. The above image gives the following daily change.

2 - +36
3 - +26
4 - +12
5 - +98
6 - +56
7 - +84
8 - +71
9 - +154
10- +230
11- +178
12- +18

The month started with a falling infection rate until a surge on the 5th, that again was falling until a further surge on the 9th which appears to have peaked on the 10th and now falling, only time will tell for how long.

 

The UK is over the moon that their infection rates are down to around 2500 a day.

[Jimbo2014]

This UK variant wont be an easy beast to tame and the predominant vaccine is unlikely to be very effective.  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said:

"The post seems to be making the claim that while the two vaccines may be lower than others at preventing all coronavirus symptoms, he's arguing they're still effective at preventing serious illness and death..." ?

In all available studies the statistical evidence indicates rather than simply argues exactly that....

 

 

I posted the info for exactly that reason, and to encourage discussion on the topic.

 

A lot of the news media reporting on the "efficacy" of CV vaccines often talks about their ability to prevent "symptomatic" COVID and then related percentages for that.

 

But I think for the typical person, what they probably most care about is that they don't end up needing to be hospitalized and they don't die... So it's important to pay attention to those kind of efficacy numbers as well.

 

And then, all of the above is complicated by the fact that different vaccines perform differently when it comes to handling different strains.. the original one, the UK one, Brazil one, etc etc.  The strain currently in Thailand seems to be more the UK/Cambodia strain...

 

So discussions of vaccine effectiveness for vaccines and people in Thailand, at least for now, probably ought to focus on how a vaccine handles the UK strain.

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

This UK variant wont be an easy beast to tame and the predominant vaccine is unlikely to be very effective.  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663

 

The reported Sinovac numbers seem to be all over the map.... From your BBC report:

 

"China's Sinovac vaccine for instance has shown in trials in Brazil to be only 50.4% effective, barely over the 50% threshold needed for regulatory approval by the World Health Organisation.

 

Interim results from late-stage trials in Turkey and Indonesia however, have suggested the Sinovac shot to be between 91% and 65% effective."

 

But again, this info doesn't say against what strains...though presumably the Brazil data would be for the Brazil strain. And, they don't explain what they mean when they say "effective."

 

But also, to the best of my knowledge, China has not been very clear or transparent about the the effectiveness data for their vaccines.

 

 

[Petey11]

Thailand very rarely goes over more than 10000 lab tests a day processed, that seems to be their capability. If you look at Iran, they were always reporting 1500 odd cases a day for months, obviously limited by testing numbers, only recently have the numbers climbed. Ramp up the processing facilities and can then up the tests.

[Tracyb]

At least 37 provinces have implemented entry restrictions yet the Nat’l govt has not banned travel.  Here’s part of a notice posted today by the US Embassy:

 

Health Alert – U.S. Embassy Bangkok, Thailand (April 12, 2021) 

Location: Thailand 

Event: Inter-provincial Travel Restrictions Imposed in Various Provinces   

 

Although the government of the Kingdom of Thailand has not officially banned inter-provincial travel, 37 provinces have announced entry restrictions and will require those seeking entry to either monitor their health or self-quarantine for 14 days.  The Ministry of Interior has published a Thai-language summary of provincial entry restrictions at http://www.moicovid.com.  This information will be updated in real-time.   

 

Restrictions may be implemented with little or no advance notice and can include a thorough inspection of travelers, mandatory quarantines, or the outright prohibition on entry for non-residents.  These restrictions will make domestic travel between provinces increasingly difficult.

 

U.S. citizens are advised to consult relevant Thai government resources and media outlets to understand fully the requirements for entering the province(s) on a travel itinerary.   Local restrictions related to COVID-19 are changing quickly, so proactive planning is imperative.