Three foreigners and tourist policeman test positive for Covid on Koh Samui

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

Local officials on the holiday island of Koh Samui in the south of Thailand announced that four people had tested positive for Covid-19.

 

Three are foreigners including a British national and one is a tourist policeman usually stationed on the mainland. He had earlier been vaccinated.

 

Case #1 is a Korean man who arrived by air from Bangkok after taking a Covid test in the capital. He is now in Koh Samui Hospital - his wife and child tested negative and have returned to Bangkok. 

 

Case #2 is a British resident of Samui for the last four years. He went to a party in Phuket with a Chinese and a Kazakhstan friend before returning on April 10th  and testing positive and is also in Koh Samui Hospital.

 

His Chinese travelling companion tested positive also becoming the third case but the Kazakh national was negative and is quarantining at home before another test in five days. 

 

Case #4 is a tourist policeman usually serving in Don Sak. He had been vaccinated against the virus at the start of April and is now in Koh Samui Hospital.

 

Ten colleagues tested negative and are in quarantine. 

 

Daily News further reported a local tourism industry rep called Ratchaporn Phoonsawat as saying that operators on the island had seen a 20% cancellation and referral of bookings. 

 

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[JamieM]

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Three are foreigners including a British national

It's actually getting amusing now ????  notice the Korean national and the Chinese national don't make it into the first sentence and the Chinese one doesn't get the CASE #3 prefix ...

 

Cowards!

 

 

Edited April 13, 2021 by JamieM

[Excel]

Wonder if the cop who had previously been vaccinated was given Sinovac ?

[Bkk Brian]

26 minutes ago, Excel said:

Wonder if the cop who had previously been vaccinated was given Sinovac ?

I would think so yes. This is the second official who has contracted the virus after the first dose, I wonder how many more there are that are not reported?

 

We all know that vaccines are at full protection a couple of weeks after your second dose but this Sinovac is unusually low in its first dose protection and this is why we are seeing this.

 

Only effective information on this can stop this occurring more and more. When people were being mass vaccinated in Phuket there was no information given on this important fact and as a consequence I'm sure many are feeling complacent because they think they are now protected.

[Surelynot]

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I would think so yes. This is the second official who has contracted the virus after the first dose, I wonder how many more there are that are not reported?

 

We all know that vaccines are at full protection a couple of weeks after your second dose but this Sinovac is unusually low in its first dose protection and this is why we are seeing this.

 

Only effective information on this can stop this occurring more and more. When people were being mass vaccinated in Phuket there was no information given on this important fact and as a consequence I'm sure many are feeling complacent because they think they are now protected.

This is a major problem...or will be......people think being vaccinated gives the 100% protection......sinovac is only 50%......a toss of a coin and you have no protection.

[thasoss]

26 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I would think so yes. This is the second official who has contracted the virus after the first dose, I wonder how many more there are that are not reported?

 

We all know that vaccines are at full protection a couple of weeks after your second dose but this Sinovac is unusually low in its first dose protection and this is why we are seeing this.

 

Only effective information on this can stop this occurring more and more. When people were being mass vaccinated in Phuket there was no information given on this important fact and as a consequence I'm sure many are feeling complacent because they think they are now protected.

correct me if i'm wrong,but when vaccinated does n't the vaccine actually give you a mild dose of the virus so the immune system can build up antibodies,So when tested after the vaccine is given would n't it be normal to test positive anyway?

[Bkk Brian]

36 minutes ago, thasoss said:

correct me if i'm wrong,but when vaccinated does n't the vaccine actually give you a mild dose of the virus so the immune system can build up antibodies,So when tested after the vaccine is given would n't it be normal to test positive anyway?

You're wrong yes but thats not meant to be a blunt statement its just that both Sinovac or AZ do not contain any of the live virus. If that was the case then the half a million people who have been vaccinated in Thailand so far are walking around infected.

[thasoss]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

both Sinovac or AZ do not contain any of the live virus. I

so these vaccines work by blocking the virus?.....chinese say their vaccine only 50% effective.Dont know about you,but i'll only accept a vaccine if i'm made to for visa extension purposes.

[Excel]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

This is a major problem...or will be......people think being vaccinated gives the 100% protection......sinovac is only 50%......a toss of a coin and you have no protection.

Well. If you were offered a bet at 2:1 on the outcome of a football game would you take those odds?

[ezzra]

Vaccines or not, mark my words.. will be hearing about this COVID business in it'all variants and forms for years to come, this is NOT going to end well or anytime soon...

Edited April 13, 2021 by ezzra

[thasoss]

1 minute ago, Excel said:

Well. If you were offered a bet at 2:1 on the outcome of a football game would you take those odds?

not really the same thing....50/50 on a possible health problem down the road i'd want 100% but look it's each to his own judgement,many would be ok with 50/50....but not me.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, thasoss said:

so these vaccines work by blocking the virus?.....chinese say their vaccine only 50% effective.Dont know about you,but i'll only accept a vaccine if i'm made to for visa extension purposes.

I'm not an expert and have no interest on the complexities of how the vaccine actually reach their aims through their methods. I just look at the different benefits of vaccines based on available trusted information for the layman, I leave the gobbledygoop to others.

[thasoss]

1 minute ago, ezzra said:

Vaccines or not, mark my words.. will be hearing about this COVID business in it'all variants and forms for years to come, this is NOT going to end well or anytime soon...

so true...it's here to stay in one form or another,mass tourism will be a thing of the past,prepare for intermitten lockdowns,and if it's not a virus it'll be for the planet,climate control etc.

[Excel]

1 minute ago, thasoss said:

not really the same thing....50/50 on a possible health problem down the road i'd want 100% but look it's each to his own judgement,many would be ok with 50/50....but not me.

Realistically I don't thing any Doctor would categorically give you a 100% assurance for a cure for any medical condition or threat.

[thasoss]

3 minutes ago, Excel said:

ealistically I don't thing any Doctor would categorically give you a 100% assurance for a cure for any medical condition or threat

your right but you know years back with vaccines for rubella diptheria,smallpox etc. i don't remember anyone having adverse reactions...i just wont trust any of these virus vaccinations....produced too quickly without any trials.Never put my faith in big pharma.

[TheFishman1]

I just saw on TV that Chinese virus protection is very low in protecting anybody from catching the virus

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, TheFishman1 said:

I just saw on TV that Chinese virus protection is very low in protecting anybody from catching the virus

Correct, its only 3% effective after first dose, then goes up to 27.7% after second dose, two weeks after it reaches its max which is around 55%. However its never been tested on the UK strain so it's probable the figures are worse than that.

[ourmanflint]

30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Correct, its only 3% effective after first dose, then goes up to 27.7% after second dose, two weeks after it reaches its max which is around 55%. However its never been tested on the UK strain so it's probable the figures are worse than that.

It boggles the mind that anyone would choose Sinovac over AZ given its extremely low efficacy, yet that's what people, are doing in Thailand from what I have heard

Edited April 13, 2021 by ourmanflint

[Megasin1]

I asked this question a while ago when the Brazilian variant first appeared and now its more pertinent. Is it possible that a vaccine with such a low efficacy rate could actually be responsible for the variants that are appearing? If covid can overcome the Chinese vaccine so easily then in my mind its more likely that the virus will adapt in someone who has a week vaccine. A 3% efficacy sounds not only a waste of time, but also extremely dangerous.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Surelynot said:

This is a major problem...or will be......people think being vaccinated gives the 100% protection......sinovac is only 50%......a toss of a coin and you have no protection.

Bit like going out for a drive.

[Surelynot]

3 hours ago, Excel said:

Well. If you were offered a bet at 2:1 on the outcome of a football game would you take those odds?

For the outcome of a football match...yes.......for my life........ Oh! Let me think.......?????

[nobodysfriend]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Case #4 is a tourist policeman usually serving in Don Sak. He had been vaccinated against the virus at the start of April and is now in Koh Samui Hospital.

If that Sinovac stuff does not work , the ones who took it will still feel protected and go out to meet friends etc , but , in reality , just spread the Virus ...?

In this case it would be better to take it off the ( Vaccine ) market at all .

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

If that Sinovac stuff does not work , the ones who took it will still feel protected and go out to meet friends etc , but , in reality , just spread the Virus ...?

In this case it would be better to take it off the ( Vaccine ) market at all .

Yes.....this a major problem........even if you are a "lucky one" and it works, you might still contract and spread the virus.........if you are unlucky and it doesn't work you could die.

[lavender19]

8 hours ago, JamieM said:

It's actually getting amusing now ????  notice the Korean national and the Chinese national don't make it into the first sentence and the Chinese one doesn't get the CASE #3 prefix ...

 

Cowards!

 

 

Are Chinese tourists? I thought Thailand was part of China now

[Golden Triangle]

3 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

It boggles the mind that anyone would choose Sinovac over AZ given its extremely low efficacy, yet that's what people, are doing in Thailand from what I have heard

I don't think that the majority of Thais have a choice, it's a case of Sinovac for you sonny Jim, take it or leave it. ????

[MrJ2U]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You're wrong yes but thats not meant to be a blunt statement its just that both Sinovac or AZ do not contain any of the live virus. If that was the case then the half a million people who have been vaccinated in Thailand so far are walking around infected.

???

Theres less than 200,000 people that have been vaccinated in Thailand.

 

Another problem will be the innefectiveness of SINOVAC,  Only 50.4%,  awful even by Chinese standars.

[Tropicalevo]

As this is a Samui thread, it might be worth noting that expats going for the vaccine at a private hospital on Samui will only be offered the AZ vaccine (according to my doctor).

Stay safe people.

[Nanaplaza666]

10 hours ago, Excel said:

Well. If you were offered a bet at 2:1 on the outcome of a football game would you take those odds?

Most do it for less , depends on the teams playing eachother and the rest of the matches their betting on ????

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

As this is a Samui thread, it might be worth noting that expats going for the vaccine at a private hospital on Samui will only be offered the AZ vaccine (according to my doctor).

Stay safe people.

Great, better than the chinese vaccine

[Surelynot]

21 hours ago, Excel said:

Realistically I don't thing any Doctor would categorically give you a 100% assurance for a cure for any medical condition or threat.

I certainly wouldn't be going to see a doctor who regular told me "don't worry......there's a 50:50 chance I might cure you".........