8 minutes ago, smedly said:

Not sustainable and not the right approach, likely why they are not mass testing apart from not having the resources to do so and not wanting the true spread of infection revealed. 

 

- they will soon run out of places to put people especially those that are not sick

 

- they will soon need these resources for people that are sick

 

- many people don't want to be tested because they will be detained if positive

 

conclusion - idiotic beyond belief 

I do agree with you on this @smedly, however, they will make more tent city field hospitals I fear instead of allowing folks to self isolate in their homes or condos.  My condo has already had a tenant with covid be removed and hospitalized and now the entire condo units common areas including pool and gym are off limits.

1335 !  Ouch ! 

2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Sometimes I test my limits but in LOS they seem to limit their tests.

I showed wifey the graph.  She said the testers were probably upcountry and the numbers would increase a lot soon.  Guess what??  She was right. LOL

Eight provinces under spotlight for rising Covid cases

 

"Eight provinces have been named hotspots because their number of recent cases in the third wave has exceeded 100, Dr Opas Karnkawinpong, director-general of the Disease Control Department, said on Wednesday.

...

Bangkok has the highest number of cases in the third wave at 1,687, with 64 per cent linked to entertainment venues, followed by:

 

--880 patients and 52 per cent from nightspots in Chiang Mai,

--594 and 48 per cent in Chonburi,

--416 and 49 per cent in Samut Prakan,

--304 patients but zero from entertainment venues in Narathiwat,

--265 and 74 per cent in Prachuap Khiri Khan,

--116 and 16 per cent in Samut Sakhon and 124 and 40 per cent in Pathum Thani."

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404886

 

 

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

One of the people that works in the company of my GF who got infected last week is now in ICU. Not going well. The deniers always seem to focus on death.. not on the suffering and after effects of the disease. For them only death counts as a problem. 

 

They also hop from one outlier theory to the next. The moment the first outlier theory gets discredited they hop over to an other that gets discredited and so on and so on. They never stop to wonder if its not better to go mainstream.

 

Because according to anti vaxers mainstream media is only for the sheeple. 

 

It's just absolute insanity. It's bad enough that they do everything they can to minimize the mortality caused by it, but then they completely ignore the fact that there are serious long-term reprecussions possible to those who service. Acting like the seemingly never-ending "long haul" symptoms don't exist, nor do the permanent damage to lungs that can completely alter the course of your life

 

Have a few friends working as diving instructors here who I had to implore not to go to the bars on their islands for the immediate future, reminding them that if their lung capacity is impact, they lose their ability to earn a living. The thought didn't even occur to them.

An off-topic trolling post has been removed.

 

not a Songkran wave yet... stashing a beer now

18 minutes ago, smedly said:

Not sustainable and not the right approach, likely why they are not mass testing apart from not having the resources to do so and not wanting the true spread of infection revealed. 

 

- they will soon run out of places to put people especially those that are not sick

 

- they will soon need these resources for people that are sick

 

- many people don't want to be tested because they will be detained if positive

 

conclusion - idiotic beyond belief 

Thailand is doing it by the book. It would be ridiculous to let asymptomatic spreaders walk around.  Here is the latest data from the US CDC, posted yesterday. Half of the spread is from symptomless people.

 

The CDC's recent March 19, 2021 COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios use the following numbers for planning

• Percent of infections that are asymptomatic:  15% to 70%, best current estimate.  30%.
• Infectiousness of asymptomatic individuals:( relative to symptomatic )  25% to 100%, best current estimate.  75%.
• Percentage of transmission prior to symptom onset:   30% to 70%, best current estimate.  50%.

 

2 minutes ago, MasterBaker said:

not a Songkran wave yet... stashing a beer now

Yeah.  It's going to get much worse.

41 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

getting way too close for comfort for me. i now know multiple people who either have it, are in isolation or sick and awaiting results. multiple positive kids at my son's school as well (hua hin)

 

this outbreak is much bigger than before.

Its clearly much worse than what has happened before in Prachuap and Hua hin.

If you have not seen already, they are reporting that it was triggered by spread at the Maya pub by a woman from Krystal club bangkok.  Thonglor 25, one of the key areas where the spread happened in bangkok.
I am in the sticks about 50km south of Hua hin and it is even getting bad here with local transmissions and one direct cousin positive. 

 

"Vendors and residents around Khaosan Road line up to take a swab test for coronavirus today. The famed walking street is identified as one of the hotspots in the ongoing outbreak after an infected partygoer visited Brick Bar on April 2-3."

 

https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4228927517126148

 

 

Covid tests replace wet T-shirts on Khaosan Road this Songkran

 

"The usual crowds of young adults soaked to the skin have been replaced by the sombre sight of local staff queuing for Covid-19 tests on Khaosan Road this Songkran holiday.

 

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration said that around 700-800 local workers had registered for free tests at mobile units parked along the street, which is famous for its foreign backpackers and lively nightlife.

 

Covid-19 has hit Thailand hard, especially in tourism hotspots like Khaosan Road, which has been almost deserted for more than a year.During Songkran, nightspots along the 410-metre road were ordered to close to prevent disease spreading after Thailand’s third wave of Covid-19 emerged in late March."

 

https://www.facebook.com/NationNews/posts/10157913334451937

 

Not long before contact tracing is overwhelmed and its in pure containment mode

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not long before contact tracing is overwhelmed and its in pure containment mode

Pretty sure they are getting close to containment mode, and that will end up happening as soon as the Songkran revelers return home. Then it will be a massive testing event, that's if they decide to test instead of slowly decreasing the tests.

The Security guards at my condo are now checking residents temperatures before walking through the main entrance...  
I wonder what they'd do if i'm above a certain temperature.. 
Not allow me to enter my own apartment? 
send me straight to a hospital? ????

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

1335 !  Ouch ! 

As my American friend would say, that is less than 1/100th of 1% of population.  Many more people die from heart disease, cancer, and traffic accidents on a daily basis.

Commentary: Personally I protect myself a lot better than most of the other foreigners I see around Pattaya town.  Have gone through at least 10- 50 count boxes of 3 layer masks since last March and always keep my mask on in the grocery unlike many others I see. Change masks sometimes twice a day or more.  Also hand out masks periodically as I keep a couple extra with me at all times. 

The hand washing and social distancing I cannot teach people as if they haven't figured that out after 13 months, do not think they ever will.  

Stay safe out there people

 

53 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

getting way too close for comfort for me. i now know multiple people who either have it, are in isolation or sick and awaiting results. multiple positive kids at my son's school as well (hua hin)

 

this outbreak is much bigger than before

 

local hospitals are either refusing to test or trying to get people to pay with many refusing to do so. no beds anyway. one of the kids from school sent home positive and whole family been sick for days.

 

i suppose at least they are at home, which is good for them but its obvious the system is creaking already with only a few hundred cases.

 

 

I think this is the real McCoy......this is Thailand's March 2020.....but this time we have a variant that is much more transmissible and a population fed up with lockdowns/loss of income......and possibly blasé after last year's non-event.

 

Unless there is something close to a miracle, I think we will see huge numbers of infections......the vaccine is too late to save us.......whether this translates into deaths....who knows?

1 minute ago, rabas said:

half the spread is from symptomless people.

 

Yes that could be correct but the important fact that you miss is - they didn't know they had it and the only way to find out is by constant mass testing of the population, that way you can ask people who are asymptomatic to self isolate

 

The other important measure is to stop people travelling around the country which they have not done In Thailand - it's as if they want it to spread, I can think of no other rational logical reason apart from astonishing stupidity 

43 minutes ago, wasabi said:

At some point will herd immunity occur without vaccines? I have very little faith in Thailand's vaccination program but at some point most of the population will have had Covid.

 

Would take a very, very long time and the country would be devastated beforei t happened.

 

Even in the very worst hit places, where health systems collapsed etc, herd immunity has not been reached.

 

Vaccination is the only viable way out of this. Unfortunately the government badly dropped the ball on that and has been way too slow. perhaps due to initial over-complacency.

Just now, smedly said:

that way you can ask people who are asymptomatic to self isolate

Worryingly it looks like self-isolation might not be an option!!!!!

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not long before contact tracing is overwhelmed and its in pure containment mode

 

unfortunately I think you are right and indeed it is already arguably at that point.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not long before contact tracing is overwhelmed and its in pure containment mode

Should've been in containment mode the second this wave started, and ESPECIALLY once it was determined to be the UK variant

 

Unfortunately there's no way to unring that bell, and this is here for good.  Even if the major cities are shut down, now that it's going to spread through the villages (which won't be shut down), it's going to be a perpetual series of lockdown > reopen > someone brings it back from the villages where it's allowed to run rampant > shutdown

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not long before contact tracing is overwhelmed and its in pure containment mode

Not only contact tracing, probably ineffective already if it's taking 4 days to process tests and get a result. You need results of tests within 24 hrs for effective tracing to keep up with the contacts or you end up chasing contacts of contacts, hence exponential.

2 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

 

The other important measure is to stop people travelling around the country which they have not done In Thailand - it's as if they want it to spread, I can think of no other rational logical reason apart from astonishing stupidity 

 

Actually they did do this, and pretty aggressively, at the start of the epidemic when numbers were low. For some reason - I don't know what but for sure a political decision and not one  made by health professionals - they decided not to do so with this current wave despite it being much larger.

I'm not as concerned by the number , as the number they have either turned away from testing for having no beds available, or have put off testing due to cost

Just informed that a second infection was found in my condo complex and was escorted to the hospital this morning.  The stairwells where the trash cans are is now being sanitized as well.  46 floors worth of double stairs.  Wonder if there will be a request for all of us in the condo to be tested.  That would surely be an astronomical feat, and a true PITA.

7 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

The Security guards at my condo are now checking residents temperatures before walking through the main entrance...  
I wonder what they'd do if my temperature was above a certain temperature.. 
Not allow me to enter my own apartment? 
send me straight to a hospital? ????

 

 

I imagine that it is for your own benefit.

 

 

I also think that you are smart enough to understand that if you exhibiting Covid-19 symptoms (a fever being one of them) you will self-isolate and see what developments. Trot off to hospital only if treatment is required.

If the Thai government were not slow in rolling out the vaccine, then by now, nearly all the elderly and vulnerable would have already been vaccinated, allowing everyone else to be able to continue as normal.
This labored approach is going to come and bite them now..   

8 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

The Security guards at my condo are now checking residents temperatures before walking through the main entrance...  
I wonder what they'd do if i'm above a certain temperature.. 
Not allow me to enter my own apartment? 
send me straight to a hospital? ????

 

I understand why they're doing it... But, there's also a certain irony there, given that the MoPH has been saying that most COVID positive cases in the current outbreak haven't been running fevers.

 

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

also think that you are smart enough to understand that if you exhibiting Covid-19 symptoms (a fever being one of them)

Of course i would. I would do it to protect the vulnerable as i know hardly anyone here as been vaccinated  

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just informed that a second infection was found in my condo complex and was escorted to the hospital this morning.  The stairwells where the trash cans are is now being sanitized as well.  46 floors worth of double stairs.  Wonder if there will be a request for all of us in the condo to be tested.  That would surely be an astronomical feat, and a true PITA.

Just been told in our condo.......... juristic person infected along with a guy on the 33 floor (Bangkok)............happy to be in to be in Isan for once....5555