Govt considers lockdown for Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Chonburi and Prachuap Khiri Khan

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

My point is far from pointless.  Other countries have tried the self isolation and it did not work for them, Thailand does it the way I stated and it did seem to work in the overall scheme of things so at least get that right.  No where do I say anything about the conflict in Myanmar being okay.  You always seem to add in a Gaslight comment instead of just addressing the issue.  Go gaslight someone else.

When did Thailand introduce enforced quarantine....just this month?............ So how do you know it works?

 

At least get that right.

 

 

[Jeffr2]

14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You can not just blame the PM for the Burmese bringing the virus into Thailand.  Do you not remember the Pretties that set off the issue in Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai prior to the Samut Sakhon debacle.  Thais started the issue so get that right at least and then Thai's perpetuated it by sneaking in the illegal workers.

We kinda can blame the PM.  Crossing the border is illegal, but allowed if you're going to a casino owned by military or government officials.  Or, allowing illegal workers in seafood factories.  Corruption...

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

When did Thailand introduce enforced quarantine....just this month?............ So how do you know it works?

 

At least get that right.

 

 

Quarantine has always been enforced if you test positive for Covid here.  You are taken and isolated at a hospital, or in the case of Samut Sahkohn locked in a factory or Field Hospital, and it has been that way for over a year since the little Ghosts returned from S. Korea and failed to self isolate as instructed and went out partying, so get that straight.  Stop trying to prove your right when your not in this case.  Stop trying to gaslight myself and others.

[NoshowJones]

15 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You can not just blame the PM for the Burmese bringing the virus into Thailand.  Do you not remember the Pretties that set off the issue in Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai prior to the Samut Sakhon debacle.  Thais started the issue so get that right at least and then Thai's perpetuated it by sneaking in the illegal workers.

I agree with you entirely, but the unelected "PM" did promise to investigate the Burmese illegal workers situation, which just proved to be another of his many lies.

[DavisH]

21 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

At this point Sheryl I would say everything is unknown until Tomorrow after they make a decision as to what they may do.  I need to go to MTT on Monday from my side of Bangkok, but I generally ride out through Nonthaburi and then back into the Area.  Not sure what the logistics will be now.

We went to Ratchaburi from Nonthaburi 2 days ago. Not a sign of any police stopping anyone. THere were a couple of checkpoints, but there was no action at all from the police. It seems at this point, the 'lockdowns' ae not that serious and is just being used to encourage people to not travel too far. Its not possible to seal every province border anyway. 

[DavisH]

10 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

We kinda can blame the PM.  Crossing the border is illegal, but allowed if you're going to a casino owned by military or government officials.  Or, allowing illegal workers in seafood factories.  Corruption...

Corruption is the main cause of the latest ourbreaks - first, the illegal movement of workers across the border (authorities should have been testing workers, with the knowledge that numbers on Myanmar were skyrocketing), then the illegal gambling dens that where allowed to operate, then the latest with the nightclubs not following disease prevention protocols. The borders would be the most difficult to deal with as there are many entrance points, so sealing the border would be almost impossibe. 

[Surelynot]

11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Quarantine has always been enforced if you test positive for Covid here.  

“For now, we are recommending people to exercise home quarantine said Sukhum Kanchanapimai, the ministry’s permanent secretary.

 

March 2020

[NoshowJones]

13 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I doubt any will listen to your advice. Thailand has been and remains the safest place to escape Covid. 

True, but the "government" hasn't helped much regarding the Burmese illegals situation, they did nothing about it. That also applies to their handling of the officials and the Bangkok nightclub situation.

Edited April 16, 2021 by possum1931

[herfiehandbag]

38 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You can not just blame the PM for the Burmese bringing the virus into Thailand.  Do you not remember the Pretties that set off the issue in Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai prior to the Samut Sakhon debacle.  Thais started the issue so get that right at least and then Thai's perpetuated it by sneaking in the illegal workers.

The PM presides over a system which is so riddled with corrupt practices that it is, literally,amazing.

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He was put into power and is kept in power, to a large extent by influential wealthy people who both create and benefit from this corruption - for example by operating cross border casino operations and seafood processing plants which rely on poorly paid migrant labour.

 

He and his government are therefore intrinsically linked with practices which have helped spread the virus within the country. That is before one considers the reckless stupidity of some of his ministers!

 

He took (literally) the top job, and demands to be treated with the deference and respect he considers the top job requires. He must accept the responsibility and blame when things go (avoidably) wrong.

 

I'm surprised that was not taught him all those years ago at the military academy, but then as he is so fond of telling us his version of Thailand has it's own way of doing things!

 

 

 

Edited April 16, 2021 by herfiehandbag

[ThailandRyan]

21 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

“For now, we are recommending people to exercise home quarantine said Sukhum Kanchanapimai, the ministry’s permanent secretary.

 

March 2020

And shortly thereafter it was removed because of the returning travelers that failed to listen to the government, and it became a if you test positive regardless of symptoms, it was off to isolation wards at the hospitals. So why try and bring a quote from over 1 year ago into play.  With this current wave they want people now who have travelled outside and visited families to self isolate but they have not tested positive. If they were positive then they would be isolated in a hospital or a field hospital of which there are many popping up all over the place, but try again and thanks for playing.  

 

Officials say no plan to change mandatory hospitalisation for Covid patients | Thaiger (thethaiger.com)

Edited April 16, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Surelynot]

12 minutes ago, paulikens said:

 some of us wanna live life

I think that is the key for many on here who are well into old age........it would be interesting to see how certain people would react if a disease popped up that killed a disproportionate number of people in the 20-40 range!!!!

Edited April 16, 2021 by Surelynot

[paulikens]

6 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I think that is the key for many on here who are well into old age........it would be interesting to see how certain people would react if ta disease popped up that killed a disproportionate number of people in the 20-40 range!!!!

@Surelynot well im 70 and i wanna live my life while i still can.  exactly why i dont like this OTT reaction.   dont wanna spend my twilight years stuck indoors

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I think that is the key for many on here who are well into old age........it would be interesting to see how certain people would react if a disease popped up that killed a disproportionate number of people in the 20-40 range!!!!

It's happening now.  Michigan and Brazil are now reporting high levels of hospitalizations amongst the younger population.  And of course, many in this age bracket are a big part of the super spreader events.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, paulikens said:

@Surelynot well im 70 and i wanna live my life while i still can.  exactly why i dont like this OTT reaction.   dont wanna spend my twilight years stuck indoors

Strike a balance...tough it out until you are vaccinated then all will be well.

[paulikens]

Just now, Surelynot said:

Strike a balance...tough it out until you are vaccinated then all will be well.

@Surelynot you think that will change anything.  look at the uk. stiil restrictions now and all the vulnerable have been vaccinated.   

[Rimmer]

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[Surelynot]

Just now, school12 said:

Nothing to do with lockdowns, or any of the above you mention.

How do they 'take out' those factors?.....and 0.5%....only 39,000,000 people....who cares?

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, paulikens said:

@Surelynot you think that will change anything.  look at the uk. stiil restrictions now and all the vulnerable have been vaccinated.   

....and lockdown is being lifted.......???

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, possum1931 said:

What good would that be?

Ego

[rwill]

20 hours ago, PeeJayEm said:

 

 

 

I'm due to do my first ever 90 days reporting. Please tell me where I can find out how to do that by post.

Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days – สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau

 

Notification by registered mail

1. Photocopy of passport pages with following pages
– front page showing name / surname / Passport No., ect.
– current visa
– last entry stamp of immigration
– last extension of visa
2. Photocopy of departure card TM.6 click to view Example TM.6 card
3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any) click to view Example document
4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47 click to view Example document (Don’t forget to sign name.)
5. Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.
6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.
Send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration Checkpoint in local area where the alien resides.

Notice :
– Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.
– Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.
– Please keep your receipt of your registered mail in case of lost mail.
– Your document can not be processed if you have passed the 90 days limit. ( You must come to the nearest immigration office or Immigration Division 1 in person to pay fine 2,000 Baht)
– Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt.

[connda]

On 4/15/2021 at 6:24 PM, tomazbodner said:

Mine had a surgical mask and asked me to rinse mouth with something that tasted like Betadine before procedure. She did ask me whether I've been out of Thailand recently, though. I wasn't but no proof was asked for that either.

Yeah, mine too.  It's Betadine for sure.  I'm surprised they don't want you to down a Neti Pot full of Betadine as well.  My dentist and her staff wear space-suits that make them look like Telly-Tubbies.  It's pretty funny.  <laughs>

[connda]

On 4/15/2021 at 6:33 PM, Surelynot said:

How does anyone at a checkpoint know where you live and if you are telling the truth?.........

Ahhh, an appointment card with the dentist's telephone number on it so they can call and confirm if they are that suspicious?

[chaihot]

18 hours ago, expatjustice said:

 

It's not 1 year lockdown if they remove it whenever the number of cases improves slightly and then put it back whenever the number of cases rises exponentially yet again. 

 

And when it wasn't a "lockdown" officially, it was an ECQ, or MCQ, or EMCQ, or some other abbreviation that kept people from being able to work, move around, and have a life.  

 

They may not have called it a "lockdown" between official lockdown declarations, but it was.  

 

FROM WIKI

The "enhanced community quarantine" (ECQ) is the strictest of these measures and is effectively a total lockdown.

 

Even during all this craziness, people of certain ages were NOT allowed out of their homes.  This was especially true in small barangays with power-crazy barangay captains.

 

It was a lockdown.  For a Year.  If it quacks like a duck ..

[expatjustice]

3 hours ago, chaihot said:

 

And when it wasn't a "lockdown" officially, it was an ECQ, or MCQ, or EMCQ, or some other abbreviation that kept people from being able to work, move around, and have a life.  

 

They may not have called it a "lockdown" between official lockdown declarations, but it was.  

 

FROM WIKI

The "enhanced community quarantine" (ECQ) is the strictest of these measures and is effectively a total lockdown.

 

Even during all this craziness, people of certain ages were NOT allowed out of their homes.  This was especially true in small barangays with power-crazy barangay captains.

 

It was a lockdown.  For a Year.  If it quacks like a duck ..

 

 

Well, call it ECQ, MCQ, TFDSRQ, or IDGAF. Matter of fact is, if everyone stays at home for one year, and nobody goes out, it is virtually impossible for the virus to spread, period. 

 

I have friends in Metro Manila, and not so long ago (this year 2021) they sent me videos of them in  a club partying maskless and with strippers all around, so I don't know what your idea of "strict" lockdown is, but in my case it is far from that

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, chaihot said:

 

And when it wasn't a "lockdown" officially, it was an ECQ, or MCQ, or EMCQ, or some other abbreviation that kept people from being able to work, move around, and have a life.  

 

They may not have called it a "lockdown" between official lockdown declarations, but it was.  

 

FROM WIKI

The "enhanced community quarantine" (ECQ) is the strictest of these measures and is effectively a total lockdown.

 

Even during all this craziness, people of certain ages were NOT allowed out of their homes.  This was especially true in small barangays with power-crazy barangay captains.

 

It was a lockdown.  For a Year.  If it quacks like a duck ..

It says here that the big lockdown in the Philippines began on March 28, 2021

 

2020: Duterte eases Manila lockdown in bid to boost tanking economy

 

Lockdowns don’t work if they are inconsistent - that’s what happened in the Philippines. 

Edited April 16, 2021 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, paulikens said:

@Surelynot you think that will change anything.  look at the uk. stiil restrictions now and all the vulnerable have been vaccinated.   

With the new variants, not just the elderly are vulnerable.

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, paulikens said:

@Surelynot well im 70 and i wanna live my life while i still can.  exactly why i dont like this OTT reaction.   dont wanna spend my twilight years stuck indoors

Look at the example of Brazil and tell us what they should have done differently to avoid so many casualties.

[Stargeezr]

To the posters who think that Thailand has only had 97 deaths, you are naive,  sorry but my Thai relatives

say that there has been way more deaths, and their friends that work in the hospitals, say so as well.

Thailand may be safer than some parts of the world for this Covid 19 virus, but I think that the Antarctic is

a bit safer, but then who would want to go there and spend a long time on the ice.  It is sad to hear of 

lockdowns, but it seems that the adults that live in Thailand, are like the adults the world over, and have to

face a lock down as they do not act like adults, but like 4 year old children,  who cannot be trusted.. It is a sad fact.

Geezer

[chaihot]

On 4/16/2021 at 12:32 PM, expatjustice said:

Matter of fact is, if everyone stays at home for one year, and nobody goes out, it is virtually impossible for the virus to spread, period. 

And how is that working out for you?

[PeeJayEm]

On 4/16/2021 at 4:05 PM, rwill said:

Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days – สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau

 

Notification by registered mail

1. Photocopy of passport pages with following pages
– front page showing name / surname / Passport No., ect.
– current visa
– last entry stamp of immigration
– last extension of visa
2. Photocopy of departure card TM.6 click to view Example TM.6 card
3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any) click to view Example document
4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47 click to view Example document (Don’t forget to sign name.)
5. Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.
6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.
Send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration Checkpoint in local area where the alien resides.

Notice :
– Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.
– Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.
– Please keep your receipt of your registered mail in case of lost mail.
– Your document can not be processed if you have passed the 90 days limit. ( You must come to the nearest immigration office or Immigration Division 1 in person to pay fine 2,000 Baht)
– Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt.

Thanks Rwill. I did it on Thursday.