Thailand reports daily record of over 2,000 COVID-19 cases, 4 new deaths

[cyril sneer]

the numbers will go down

 

pay a large lump of salary to get tested, if positive pay even more, potentially lose your job

 

this is enough of a decoy to keep the sick inside their homes

[nickmondo]

8 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

Is this because the new strain is more infectious, or a sign that the current measures are not working ? If the numbers rise next week again, that cannot be blamed on Songkran travel and shows a deeper problem. With the government's inability to source and accredit vaccines ( unless you are a hiso ) the signs aren't good.

of course it can be blamed on Songkran.

If that is what started the problem, for sure its the reason its escalating.

[Elkski]

Look how a few fun nights in the bars  in thonglor have exploded the case numbers country wide.   I said shut down songkran.  It was obvious to me the Tuesday before travel was allowed. This Am guys greed  and selfish thinking is exactly why Thailand is going to hit 5000 cases a day within the next 14 days.   

Edited April 23, 2021 by Elkski

[dinsdale]

6 hours ago, Amdesign said:

Lockdown is only needed if medical facilities are not sufficient to cover heavy cases. This is basic, from risk management side.

They need to look at infection rate per 100,000 population. In EU, if say 50 for 100,000 they impose a lockdown.

Who are you?. One thing is for sure if I had a company I wouldn't want you as a manager.

[DanielS]

1 hour ago, Surasak said:

"The outbreak began in the capital Bangkok and has spread across the country".

 

What else was to be expected when the powers that be allowed all and anyone to travel to wherever over Songkran? 

Its like putting a rabid dog in a nursery school and hoping the kids don't get bitten.

The clowns convention is and on going everyday event in here.

 

I read that  a million people left Bangkok for Songkran holiday with families  in the country.

 

But if all of them stayed in Bangkok, I think Thailand have more infected today.

Bangkok supermarkets, malls  and restaurants are more risky about the virus spreading than the villagelife in the country.

[crazykopite]

I am hearing Koh Samui has now become a red zone expect the 2000 to be 4000 on Monday no one is immune from this virus although I think the Thai government were convinced that it would be blown away by a gust of wind 

[crazykopite]

11 minutes ago, DanielS said:

 

I read that  a million people left Bangkok for Songkran holiday with families  in the country.

 

But if all of them stayed in Bangkok, I think Thailand have more infected today.

Bangkok supermarkets, malls  and restaurants are more risky about the virus spreading than the villagelife in the country.

At least in Bangkok they have hospitals in the villages out there in the sticks they don’t nobody but nobody is immune from this virus it only takes one person to have it and boom it explodes so I’m sorry villages are as much at risk as Bangkok 

[Miami007]

9 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

Is this because the new strain is more infectious, or a sign that the current measures are not working ? If the numbers rise next week again, that cannot be blamed on Songkran travel and shows a deeper problem. With the government's inability to source and accredit vaccines ( unless you are a hiso ) the signs aren't good.

Keep in mind that testing in the past was mostly for people who had symptoms (sick). Now more asymptomatic (healthy) people get tested.

Obviously, there will be more cases. It doesn't mean that they didn't exist before.

If every infected person without symptoms is being admitted, hospitals will be full quickly

[anchadian]

 

Thai News Reports

 

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Health officials in Nonthaburi are reporting 154 more patients, including students, teachers, nurses, police, and company employees #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand #StayHome

 

[Enoon]

9 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

 

 

Of the four that died one was a 29 year old that apparently had no previously disclosed medical problems.  That is also very concerning.

 

In my youth I knew two people who died "too young", one at 17 one at 28, from previously unknown vulnerabilities.

 

The virus finds those sort of people.

 

But its primary target remains the over 60's.

 

England as of 22 April:

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by Enoon

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Miami007 said:

Keep in mind that testing in the past was mostly for people who had symptoms (sick). Now more asymptomatic (healthy) people get tested.

Obviously, there will be more cases. It doesn't mean that they didn't exist before.

If every infected person without symptoms is being admitted, hospitals will be full quickly

It seems there are about 15,000 tests a day, with some of those tests being random samples. As a result, probably over 1,000 asymptomatic, but positive, cases are identified. The procedure is for those people to be quarantined in a field hospital.

[RobMuir]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

the highly-transmissible B.1.1.7 variant, has caused more than 20,000 domestic infections with 27 fatalities in just 23 days.

    Well, we all know who to thank for that one don't we.

 

Similar situation now in many countries.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, crazykopite said:

I am hearing Koh Samui has now become a red zone expect the 2000 to be 4000 on Monday no one is immune from this virus although I think the Thai government were convinced that it would be blown away by a gust of wind 

It is unlikely that case numbers will reach that high, due to lack of testing.

 

The only possibility is if there are so many symptomatic people that have to be hospitalized. And, even in that case, many will be told to stay home and wait for a room to be available.

[CG1 Blue]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Jim Fixx was a runner in what he thought was excellent health who ran every day yet died while running. Underlying health conditions he was unaware of killed him. Not everyone is perfectly healthy.

And this is why we have to be careful when posting comments about a '29 year old who died with no pre-reported health issues'. 

There are plenty of cases where footballers and other 'healthy' individuals sadly keeled over and died, later to be found to have an unknown heart defect etc. 

 

I'm not a Covid denier, but we have to be careful not to scare monger without all the facts. 

[The Hammer2021]

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

 

You have not been around very long then if you believe opening up the borders will keep illegal entrants from coming in to Thailand and they will be able to control it.  I worked for many years in assisting, well trying to at least shut down the human trafficking here and in a few bordering countries, but that went no where, ergo the landing of Thailand on Tier 2 of the Human Trafficking watch list.  This virus is not arriving just from Illegals.

Human  trafficking  or economic migration? In THE UK the authorities and NGOs work with the traffickers to help illegal immigrants. The reason that Thailand is high on the list is because many western  countries especially  the USA ignore their own massive  problems of domestic slavery and twist definitions. Bondage and inherited debts are terrible problems probably much so than the people crossing borders to get work with the aid of paid helpers. 

[The Hammer2021]

21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It is unlikely that case numbers will reach that high, due to lack of testing.

 

The only possibility is if there are so many symptomatic people that have to be hospitalized. And, even in that case, many will be told to stay home and wait for a room to be available.

Stay at home was the advice in most countries....rightly or wrongly... A very high proportion of Covid cases in the UK were caught in hospitals.

[smedly]

I would strongly advise people to watch Dr. John Campbell latest youtube video especially about India 

[rabas]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

 

Thai News Reports

 

@ThaiNewsReports

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Health officials in Nonthaburi are reporting 154 more patients, including students, teachers, nurses, police, and company employees #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand #StayHome

 

 

Nonthaburi 154, up from 29 today?

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by rabas

[poohy]

8 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

All very confusing. Another poster said Thailand has 10,000 ventilators available. How can they have 10,000 ventilators but only 1,000 ICU beds? 

Someone talking "bolleux as they say  in France

[Bkk Brian]

30 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

And this is why we have to be careful when posting comments about a '29 year old who died with no pre-reported health issues'. 

There are plenty of cases where footballers and other 'healthy' individuals sadly keeled over and died, later to be found to have an unknown heart defect etc. 

 

I'm not a Covid denier, but we have to be careful not to scare monger without all the facts. 

To be fair, this was reported in the daily briefing by CCSA today, the poster was just quoting that, its news available to anyone. Its not about scare mongering its about highlighting that this can affect all ages not just the elderly. Everyone needs to keep safe and be aware of the facts.

 

Those who call it scare mongering are usually those who are covid deniers in the sense they think its a risk only for old people.

[DBath]

4 hours ago, phills2k1 said:

 

Also astounding is the fact that so many people (not implying you're one of them) talk as if death is the ONLY negative impact from the virus. Like long haul cases or lung damage don't exist

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or sincere, but to be clear, my post in no way implied that I’m stupid enough to think people dying is the “only negative impact”. I’m not even sure why you felt the need to make such an obvious point. 

[kingofthemountain]

11 hours ago, robblok said:

The goverment officials were stating they thought they were past the worst of it. This number shows that is untrue

As far as i can remember i don't think i never heard something true coming from the goverment officials

 

it started at the very begining in 2014 with the famous 'it's not a coup''

and the declaration of the ''leader'' : '' i have 0 intention to stay in power''

 

Since it has been only lie after lie

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, PGSan said:

That is exactly what was said, so not wrong.

Thanks for joining, I was in a discussion with another poster so you can follow that if you like?

[Albert Zweistein]

18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Of the four new deaths reported Friday, Thai officials provided the following details:

 

--a 72-year-old man from Bangkok who had a history of visiting Phuket.

 

--a 74-year-old man from Songkhla with preexisting health conditions like high blood pressure and a history of contact with an infected person.

 

--a 29-year-old woman from Samut Prakan who was overweight and had prior contact with an infected person,.

 

--an 83-year-old man from Samut Prakan with multiple preexisting health conditions and prior contact with an infected person.

 

Obvious one who has a history of visiting Phuket is more vulnerable. Why are they publishing this <deleted> ?

Edited April 24, 2021 by metisdead
Profanity removed.

[Percy P]

12 hours ago, Henryford said:

Obvious this was going to happen after Songhran. Have a party in Bangkok then travel all over Thailand duh !

Who is taking the responsibility for encouraging  the gatherings of people over Songkran.

[Percy P]

12 hours ago, smedly said:

This is exactly what Thailand should have done nearly 3 weeks ago

But it's the money .

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

To be fair, this was reported in the daily briefing by CCSA today, the poster was just quoting that, its news available to anyone. Its not about scare mongering its about highlighting that this can affect all ages not just the elderly. Everyone needs to keep safe and be aware of the facts.

 

Those who call it scare mongering are usually those who are covid deniers in the sense they think its a risk only for old people.

Covid is overwhelmingly a higher risk for older and / or clinically vulnerable people. What we don't need is attempts to suggest younger and/or healthy people are at just as much risk from Covid. This would just add to the enormous anxiety already being felt across the population. 

 

I accept the poster was only quoting from the CSSA briefing. But was the intention to suggest that young healthy people are now beginning to die from Covid? I don't know.  

[phills2k1]

1 hour ago, DBath said:

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or sincere, but to be clear, my post in no way implied that I’m stupid enough to think people dying is the “only negative impact”. I’m not even sure why you felt the need to make such an obvious point. 

I know that you didn't imply that.  In fact, I literally said, "not implying that you're one of them," which was in the post that you quoted

 

And unfortunately there are multiple people here (and millions in the US alone) who contend that the mortality rate is all that matters, which is incredibly frustrating and dangerous. So that's what I pointed out

[phills2k1]

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

This would just add to the enormous anxiety already being felt across the population.

 

I'm so tired of this argument being made. Do you see what's happening in the rest of the world? Do you think it's only the elderly or compromised people being seriously affected in India or Brazil?   Hell there are professional athletes in the US who caught it last year that are still dealing with its impact.

 

It's not scare mongering, it's informing people just how serious this still is, so perhaps they understand why distancing and testing is so important.

 

Perhaps if the younger generation was aware that they're not invincible, you wouldn't have had things spread like it did in the UK originally. And maybe you wouldn't have had people enjoying the nightlife in such a dangerous manner here a few weeks ago

[phills2k1]

I just don't understand why so many people want to keep their head in the sand and act like there's no danger to anyone that isn't elderly or have serious health issues. Ignoring the problem isn't going to make it disappear. Trump and his lemmings tried that for all of 2020 and look what happened. Same with bolsonaro

 

Besides, what percentage of the population do you really believe fits the young and completely healthy demographic?