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Sinovac Safe?

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8 hours ago, connda said:

Well, lead by example.  Get the shot.  Show her that it's safe and effective.  If you have no side effects it will motivate her to follow in your footsteps.  If you have a serious adverse reaction everyone of her friends, family, and members of her village will probably never get the shot.  If you have moderate side effects she'll probably still balk and I wouldn't blame her.

 

I did get the 2 Moderna shots in NY by Feb 9 before returning after 14 month absence to visit her.  Of course I told her they were painless.  Maybe made the mistake then of contributing to badmouthing the Chinese viruses.

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    The safety of the Sinovac  aka Coronavac is unknown.   No one can say if it is safe or even what the likelihood of serious adverse reactions are because the Chinese have provided limited and unreliabl

  • It's as safe as all the others.  All vaccines have potential side effects.  All vaccines.   Sinovac has distributed some 260 million doses.  At least 100 have been administered.  If it wasn'

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    You know, I was convinced that Sinovac was overwhelmingly safe to take. But the argument you presented here has given me pause. Well done!  

3 hours ago, habuspasha said:

Maybe made the mistake then of contributing to badmouthing the Chinese viruses.

 

When rumors and malicious speculations spread, they are hard to counteract.

 

 

Why would you push her to do something she doesn't want to do? Your not here, so you don't know. Plus people here haven’t been brain washed with liberal social propaganda like you have . So drop it and don't stress her out. 

On 5/30/2021 at 7:37 PM, Jeffr2 said:

Social media.  The scourge of modern times. LOL

Not so different from playground, barroom, and water cooler BS.

definite patterns:

"Yeah I have a girlfriend but you don't know her cuz she goes to another school."

"My cousin's boss saw it with his own eyes..."

"A guy made a carburetor in his garage that gets a hundred miles to the gallon, but Standard Oil bought it from him and has suppressed it."

"There are will known long term affects but I won't go into them now..,"

"Nobody knows what the long term side effects of eating microwaved food will be."

"It's a well known fact..."

"You just can't trust scientists/the liberal press/the mainstream media/doctors..."

"They don't want you to know cuz they are trying to control you..."

"There must have been a second shooter..."

 

Plausible BS is still BS and there are clues as to what it is.

 

 

Just now, cdemundo said:

Not so different from playground, barroom, and water cooler BS.

definite patterns:

"Yeah I have a girlfriend but you don't know her cuz she goes to another school."

"My cousin's boss saw it with his own eyes..."

"A guy made a carburetor in his garage that gets a hundred miles to the gallon, but Standard Oil bought it from him and has suppressed it."

"There are will known long term affects but I won't go into them now..,"

"Nobody knows what the long term side effects of eating microwaved food will be."

"It's a well known fact..."

"You just can't trust scientists/the liberal press/the mainstream media/doctors..."

"They don't want you to know cuz they are trying to control you..."

"There must have been a second shooter..."

 

Plausible BS is still BS and there are clues as to what it is.

 

 

Sadly, social media casts a very wide net.  I know many who fall for the fake news and memes on social media.  They don't know how to fact check, or don't care as they like what they've read/seen.

21 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

it was tested in the USA and given a 97.5% efficacy after the 2nd jab

 

????????????  

Sputnik wasn't tested in the US.  That's ridiculous.

My GF is Chinese even she won’t have the Regimes vaccine nor will the Chinese neighbour next door that alone tells me not to go near it if they offer it to me .

23 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

it was tested in the USA and given a 97.5% efficacy after the 2nd jab

Utterly false about it being tested in the USA.  Please share with us a link to show otherwise.

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4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Find a smarter girlfriend. Good luck.

I hope this response is tongue and cheek.  I'm sure you would agree that real friends are certainly not so disposable or exchangeable.  Nor are real relationships the simple push and pull suggested by BTB1977 when he writes: 

"Why would you push her to do something she doesn't want to do? Your[sic] not here, so you don't know. Plus people here haven’t been brain washed with liberal social propaganda like you have . So drop it and don't stress her out."

Ignoring the ad hominem, presumption, and prejudice, you might agree that real friends don't stay silent when they think their partner is dangerously misinformed anymore then they force their friend to do what they don't want to do. People are not billiard balls. Have you never told a loved one, or has a loved one never told you, you should go to the hospital, see a doctor, get some rest?  That's the pushing and pulling that real friends and lovers do.

On 6/1/2021 at 4:43 PM, Lacessit said:

Trump would not have been elected President without Russian help.

 

This has been throughly disproven. The Steele dossier is bs. It was the Clinton machine.

 

Besides, who was on the fence trying to decide who to vote for? Billary or Trump are the two most devisive political figures in modern history.

 

That's absolutely clueless.

12 hours ago, kynikoi said:

 

This has been throughly disproven. The Steele dossier is bs. It was the Clinton machine.

 

Besides, who was on the fence trying to decide who to vote for? Billary or Trump are the two most devisive political figures in modern history.

 

That's absolutely clueless.

Actually not. The Senate committee noted that the Trump campaign cooperated with Russian intermediaries including Data sharing. The Mueller report finding that Manafort and others cooperated with Russian agents and lied about it was redacted by the Dept. of Justice under William Barr.

On 6/2/2021 at 7:09 AM, BTB1977 said:

Why would you push her to do something she doesn't want to do? Your not here, so you don't know. Plus people here haven’t been brain washed with liberal social propaganda like you have . So drop it and don't stress her out. 

Why would anti-vax fanatics get so irate about someone being concerned for the welfare of a loved one? I think I answered my own question.

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On 6/5/2021 at 2:32 AM, placeholder said:

Why would anti-vax fanatics get so irate about someone being concerned for the welfare of a loved one? I think I answered my own question.

I wondered the same thing, but don't see your answer.  Please explain.

 

I think it's the extreme right, especially American Trumpist, projection that he (like my GF) is always pushed around by elitist, know-it-all socialists like he assumes I am, combined inconsistently with the non-conservative, neo-liberal assumption that humans (like my poor GF) are free-thinking blank-slates, untouched by peers, culture, or society.  "What's love got to do with it?"

9 hours ago, habuspasha said:

I wondered the same thing, but don't see your answer.  Please explain.

 

I think it's the extreme right, especially American Trumpist, projection that he (like my GF) is always pushed around by elitist, know-it-all socialists like he assumes I am, combined inconsistently with the non-conservative, neo-liberal assumption that humans (like my poor GF) are free-thinking blank-slates, untouched by peers, culture, or society.  "What's love got to do with it?"

Because he's utterly anti-vax and angry about it.

Clearly his reply has nothing to do with your understandable concern for your wife's health.

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