12 recent deaths not related to COVID-19 vaccines

[snoop1130]

 

12 recent deaths had nothing to do with the COVID-19 vaccine, according to medical experts from the Public Health Ministry, while 15 others are still under investigation.

 

Yesterday, Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, director of the Emergency Health and Disease Control Division of the Disease Control Department, revealed that 27 people died between February 28th and June 8th, after receiving COVID-19 vaccines. The causes of death for 12 of them, however, had nothing to do with the inoculations.

 

8 of the fatalities experienced acute coronary syndrome (heart attack), one experienced a blood disorder (immune thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura), one experienced a pulmonary embolism, one experienced purulent meningitis and one experienced bleeding in their stomach.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/12-recent-deaths-not-related-to-covid-19-vaccines/

 

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[248900_1469958220]

Nothing to see here folks.... move along...

[mtls2005]

Very confusing article, which if meant to allay fears, has done the opposite.

 

All had the vaccine, which one?

 

And they all died.

 

 

Maybe they shouldn't have been vaccinated?

 

 

 

 

 

[tomazbodner]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The causes of death for 12 of them, however, had nothing to do with the inoculations.

 

8 of the fatalities experienced acute coronary syndrome (heart attack), one experienced a blood disorder (immune thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura), one experienced a pulmonary embolism, one experienced purulent meningitis and one experienced bleeding in their stomach.

Not to be devil's advocate, but "had nothing to do with it" would mean that the same would have happened to them, had they not been inoculated. So, can someone say that the 8 who had a heart attack, would have had heart attack also if they didn't get vaccinated? To me, "totally unrelated" would have been: got hit by a bus... torn to pieces by a stray pitbull... died in a plane crash...

 

How can someone say with straight face that one of "possible side effects" that these patients experienced, had "nothing to do with inoculations"?

 

Regardless, the number of serious side effects is very low, but highly publicised, and can happen with anything. So I am not against vaccination, in fact I've registered for it as well; I am just saying that the attempt to clear vaccines of that deaths is inappropriate. Or maybe that's an attempt to get insurance company out of demand for payout...

[connda]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

Yesterday, Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, director of the Emergency Health and Disease Control Division of the Disease Control Department, revealed that 27 people died between February 28th and June 8th, after receiving COVID-19 vaccines. The causes of death for 12 of them, however, had nothing to do with the inoculations.

The government medical agencies will never say anything but "nothing to see here."  I don't believe they have the ability to determine causality or the will to do so if they did.
People just keeling over and dying after the shots is framed as perfectly normal.  But that discounts that the shots can be a proximate cause. 
It's unfortunate that Thailand does not have a publicly accessible Covid vaccine adverse event reporting system.  So for comparison we are forced to look elsewhere (like the UK government statistics) and extrapolate.  My only point being is that those who chose to take the shots should be well informed.

I'll provide a solid example from the UK's Yellow Card Reporting System for Covid vaccine adverse reactions.
This report is specific to AstraZeneca.

I did a simple search for pulmonary embolism.

Here is the report title and screen shots of the results¹  presented without comment with attribution below.

 

<sup>1 Link to this official UK government report from the Yellow Card adverse reaction database can be found here: 

COVID-19 AstraZeneca Vaccine Analysis
Print Report Run Date:28-May-2021
Data Lock Date:26-May-2021
All UK spontaneous reports received between 4/01/21 and 26/05/2021 for COVID-19 vaccine Oxford University/AstraZeneca.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990932/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf</sup>

Edited June 10, 2021 by connda

[Fex Bluse]

42 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Very confusing article, which if meant to allay fears, has done the opposite.

 

All had the vaccine, which one?

 

And they all died.

 

 

Maybe they shouldn't have been vaccinated?

 

The English language articles are not intended to do anything other than employ a couple Thais who can barely put together English sentences. 

 

Thailand does not care about informing non-Thais unless there is some obvious benefit. 

 

The Thai language media articles are the ones that count, and then Thais hardly read, so.... 

 

Edited June 10, 2021 by Fex Bluse

[RichardColeman]

They've suddenly realised the can of worms they have opened in claims for vaccine deaths and how expensive it will be for real vaccine deaths or conned ones.

[RichardColeman]

From link - Meanwhile, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration revealed that 14,981 people in the capital were inoculated yesterday

 

So, exactly how long will it take BKK to be fully vaccinated at a rate 14,000 a day like the last 3 days ? At near 10 million my quick estimate puts it near to 2 years ! For a minute there I was worried

[richard_smith237]

10 hours ago, connda said:

The government medical agencies will never say anything but "nothing to see here."  I don't believe they have the ability to determine causality or the will to do so if they did.
People just keeling over and dying after the shots is framed as perfectly normal.  But that discounts that the shots can be a proximate cause. 
It's unfortunate that Thailand does not have a publicly accessible Covid vaccine adverse event reporting system.  So for comparison we are forced to look elsewhere (like the UK government statistics) and extrapolate.  My only point being is that those who chose to take the shots should be well informed.

I'll provide a solid example from the UK's Yellow Card Reporting System for Covid vaccine adverse reactions.
This report is specific to AstraZeneca.

I did a simple search for pulmonary embolism.

Here is the report title and screen shots of the results¹  presented without comment with attribution below.

 

<sup>1 Link to this official UK government report from the Yellow Card adverse reaction database can be found here: 

COVID-19 AstraZeneca Vaccine Analysis
Print Report Run Date:28-May-2021
Data Lock Date:26-May-2021
All UK spontaneous reports received between 4/01/21 and 26/05/2021 for COVID-19 vaccine Oxford University/AstraZeneca.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990932/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf</sup>

 

We have to be very careful how we extrapolate data:

 

For example: 1 in 1000 people have a Thrombotic event every year. 

There are approximately 2500 deaths each year in the UK from Pulmonary Embolism.

 

P.E. is not uncommon.

 

Has the incidence of P.E. in the UK  in 2021 increased in comparison to the numbers of P.E. in previous years after a vast proportion of the population have received the AZ vaccine ?

 

 

Edited June 10, 2021 by richard_smith237

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Yesterday, Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, director of the Emergency Health and Disease Control Division of the Disease Control Department, revealed that 27 people died between February 28th and June 8th, after receiving COVID-19 vaccines. The causes of death for 12 of them, however, had nothing to do with the inoculations.

Hmmmm

[vandeventer]

14 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

Nothing to see here folks.... move along...

I guess it's like standing next to a cliff and something comes along and gives you that little extra push.

[Phuketshrew]

Hardly encouraging for potential volunteers for the new "mixed vaccine" trials. If you die as a volunteer will they declare that it has nothing to do with the vaccinations?

[mtls2005]

3 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I guess it's like standing next to a cliff and something comes along and gives you that little extra push.

 

"Bring out your dead"

 

"He's not dead yet"

 

 

 

[IamNoone88]

A number of people I know have felt terrible after the local AZ vaccine and experienced high fevers. Yesterday or the day before some died in Phuket after a jab. It has put me off AZ while Sinovac was never an option.

[metisdead]

An off topic post asking about road deaths has been removed. 

[worgeordie]

So the ones that had the vaccine and died, but death was

not related to vaccine , won't be getting the promised 

400,000 Thb  if you die after getting the jab.

regards worgeordie

[jacko45k]

Just now, worgeordie said:

So the ones that had the vaccine and died, but death was

not related to vaccine , won't be getting the promised 

400,000 Thb  if you die after getting the jab.

regards worgeordie

Wonder if I can get private cover for post jab unrelated death!