With Covid rates around the world falling, and Thailand's utter and complete inability to flatten the curve and vaccinate it's people, the incoming tourists would be in far more danger than the local population here. 

 

So, in essence this is just more fear mongering drivel, from an ivory tower guy, who seems to have little sympathy for the struggling masses, and puts math over the financial well being of his people. 

How about stopping all government employees salaries they will soon change their tune when they have no money 

5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

As an expat in Thailand I'd rather they stayed closed until I've had my promised inoculations...

I value my health more than someone having a holiday.

Well the vaccinated people that might have considered a holiday in Phuket before the scam rules were added ... making money for those who ... well... make money.
Don't worry now,  because there's no fully vaccinated people coming .. they are cancelling , being reasonably sensible enough to see what's going on.

We'll stay home where mostly we can be safely vaccinated in a timely manner with properly regulated vaccines and thailand can rollout the homemade AZ from the stop start Royal factory or the Iffy one from the Sino Masters.. in an untimely and verging on criminally inefficient manner to the good people of the land who did nothing to deserve what has been inflicted in them.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr. Prasit is of the view that the reopening of the country on July 1st is too soon, and that a two-week quarantine needs to remain in place,

I don't think he needs to worry.

3 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

The problem is that people also dying from poverty, depression and even starvation when

they cannot go to work.

this is what mexico figured out in the begining of the pandemic, hence never closed corders

and never imposed any lockdown. the result is indeed some deaths, but the economy was saved, and economy equals life.

 

the key point here is vaccines. if the doctor has respect for the vaccines, he must also respect the vaccines from other countries.

what he is saying acctually is that vaccined tourists cannot enter, because thailand is not vaccinated yet. but if the vaccines work, than no need to worry from vaccinated tourists,

and if the vaccines do not work, than why to vaccine thailand at all?

 

The fact that you've had the vaccine won't stop you bringing/carrying a new variant. It will reduce the chance of passing it on greatly but not completely. 

The vaccine protects you from getting seriously ill, some better than others.

Off-topic posts reported and removed.   Stay on topic, please.  

 

So the science is really not true?  Does vaccinated tourist still spread the virus as fast as those migrants entering Thailand through their own pourous borders or is it really pourous or the fact IO are turning a blind eye to enrich themselves at the expense of their own people?

 

Yesterday I read, as for Phuket there is required testing 3 times first one on arrival even with a prior negative 72 hours result prior to getting on the plane, then one has got to stay 14 days in Phuket with a final negative test result before you are release to travel in Thailand.  Did this Doctor know?????

 

Maybe tourist agree with the Doctor reported 50% have already canceled their trip.

Nobody will be coming with all the restrictions of the sandbox scheme so he can save his breath.

30 minutes ago, Bim Smith said:

Life doesn't revolve around your health. Self isolate and let people start to earn money again. Millions are suffering right now. What a selfish comment.

And you think opening Phuket with all the restrictions will generate tourists in sufficient numbers to impact. Dream on.

 

3 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

and never imposed any lockdown. the result is indeed some deaths, but the economy was saved, and economy equals life.

'some deaths' - 230,185 to date! Economies can recover but to the best of my knowledge, once you're dead you're dead. If large parts of the economy is shut down, the people affected need to be supported - that's not happening.

 

What is happening is that those who've paid social security are getting payments whilst those on low incomes who don't pay SS are getting nothing.  Thailand really needs to re-visit its Social Security system once this is over. People need to eat.

 

There was no need for the current situation in Thailand - it is entirely of the government's own making.

Quote

"He expressed concern that new variants of the COVID-19 may be brought into the country, which may affect the efficacy of the vaccines being administered locally. "

 

Should read:

 

New variants of the COVID-19 are already in the country, which will affect the efficacy of the vaccines being administered locally.

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Careful, you might get taken down. I agree, more and more studies with peer reviews are coming to show that it is indeed a safe drug for the treatment of Covid.

 

Who would have thought it would cost 20 million dollars to do a large study on a drug that has been around since 1992 with only 20 deaths, one should be able to see why the delay happened in getting it to market, i.e. it's not profitable for big pharma to do a peer review on it, rushing through experimental vaccines with no liability for deaths or adverse reactions is the way to go to make money and with self reporting mechanisms in place, well what can I say to that, the data is going to be really interesting, so why are they trying to rush it through for approval ? 

Is there a difference between treatment and prevention?

 

 

2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Are talking about the Chinese made Crapovax?

With only a WHO estimate of 65% effective rate.

1 minute ago, iamariva1957 said:

With only a WHO estimate of 65% effective rate.

and that was with the original Wuhan strain,I wonder what it's like against Indian delta strain? 

4 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Means he has his doubts about the efficacy of the present available vaccins, the Chinacrap and the home made AZ.

 

The doctor is right vaccines only protect 33%

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596

 

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Careful, you might get taken down. I agree, more and more studies with peer reviews are coming to show that it is indeed a safe drug for the treatment of Covid.

 

Who would have thought it would cost 20 million dollars to do a large study on a drug that has been around since 1992 with only 20 deaths, one should be able to see why the delay happened in getting it to market, i.e. it's not profitable for big pharma to do a peer review on it, rushing through experimental vaccines with no liability for deaths or adverse reactions is the way to go to make money and with self reporting mechanisms in place, well what can I say to that, the data is going to be really interesting, so why are they trying to rush it through for approval ? 

 

 

Because their shareholders want results (money) 100% working vaccines will be ready in about a year as is the normal procedure, now these vaccines made to save the world prove they are 33% effective see previous link

 

 

4 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

The problem is that people also dying from poverty, depression and even starvation when they cannot go to work.  this is what mexico figured out in the begining of the pandemic, hence never closed corders and never imposed any lockdown. the result is indeed some deaths, but the economy was saved, and economy equals life.

 

the key point here is vaccines. if the doctor has respect for the vaccines, he must also respect the vaccines from other countries. what he is saying actually is that vaccined tourists cannot enter, because thailand is not vaccinated yet. but if the vaccines work, than no need to worry from vaccinated tourists, and if the vaccines do not work, than why to vaccine thailand at all?

 

321000 is what you call "some" deaths ?? 

4 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Means he has his doubts about the efficacy of the present available vaccins, the Chinacrap and the home made AZ.

AZ is not made in Thailand only bottled and canned from product made else were.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Dr. Prasit is of the view that the reopening of the country on July 1st is too soon,

But they are not opening up the country on July 1st, they are opening up Phuket that more than meets the 50% vaccination rate requirement mentioned by him.

4 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

The problem is that people also dying from poverty, depression and even starvation when they cannot go to work.  this is what mexico figured out in the begining of the pandemic, hence never closed corders and never imposed any lockdown. the result is indeed some deaths, but the economy was saved, and economy equals life.

 

the key point here is vaccines. if the doctor has respect for the vaccines, he must also respect the vaccines from other countries. what he is saying actually is that vaccined tourists cannot enter, because thailand is not vaccinated yet. but if the vaccines work, than no need to worry from vaccinated tourists, and if the vaccines do not work, than why to vaccine thailand at all?

 

???? ???? ????

He is probably right except Phuket

Sandbox is 14 days quarantine provided Thai's living or allowed to enter the Island have been vaccinated  Covid is going to be with us for the foreseeable future and will mutate. Similar schemes are also being considered by Bali and other destinations. The Phuket Sandbox is unlukely to attract many genuine foreign tourists it is just a very expensive alternative to quarantine in Bangkok but without being strictly confined to a hotel room. The so called tracking app is only viable to those who have Thai SIM Cards otherwise the roaming charges for most if they  have foreign Sims will be excessive.

 

28 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

 

The doctor is right vaccines only protect 33%

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596

 

Thats against the more dangerous Indian variant and also is only for first dose of either AZ or Pfizer. After second dose AZ is 60% effective on the Indian strain and Pfizer is 88% effective.

 

The problem is the Sinovac has not been tested against the UK or Indian strains

In all this my in brother in law works for a major tv station in BKK when he was vaxed 2 months ago. He was asked any family members want it?

If so tell them to call us. They did and all his, our extended family all went on mass and were vaxed on the same day. No payment required. Another case of who you know. Not us only Because we live in Hua Hin and not Bangers.

What's a few more months? Better safe than sorry. The money in the tourist sector that you lose now would be far less than a outbreak you have to pay for later....

4 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Means he has his doubts about the efficacy of the present available vaccins, the Chinacrap and the home made AZ.

He knows the truth about this juice.

Very predictable, but totally laughable. It's very easy for this mug in a labcoat to tell the country to postpone opening up, when he is still receiving a salary and his business doesn't rely on tourism.

 

I suppose at this point though, as others have pointed out, with the ridiculously strict measures in place, that the foreigners who could travel here would opt out in favour of somewhere less petrified of tourists.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, cclub75 said:

"Zero Covid".

 

I told you.

 

It's an ideology... And it's a cult.

yes and it is just beginning.

 

Razer will start shipping its Project Hazel N95 mask in October:

 

https://www.cnet.com/news/razer-will-start-shipping-its-project-hazel-n95-mask-in-october/?ServiceType=twitter&ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&TheTime=2021-06-15T04%3A28%3A46&PostType=link&UniqueID=2D1F5F70-CD92-11EB-90DE-21BB923C408C

4 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

The problem is that people also dying from poverty, depression and even starvation when they cannot go to work.  this is what mexico figured out in the begining of the pandemic, hence never closed corders and never imposed any lockdown. the result is indeed some deaths, but the economy was saved, and economy equals life.

 

the key point here is vaccines. if the doctor has respect for the vaccines, he must also respect the vaccines from other countries. what he is saying actually is that vaccined tourists cannot enter, because thailand is not vaccinated yet. but if the vaccines work, than no need to worry from vaccinated tourists, and if the vaccines do not work, than why to vaccine thailand at all?

 

 

 And the conclusion is, these so called thai academicians lack new knowledge regarding vaccines and don't have a clue of how to manage the pandemic in a realistic way. Of course, they can say, look at european countries and their death rate versus us.They only know one thing : seal off the country and quarantine new arrivals.Thats not really science-based approach.

 

A more reasonable approach is needed. How long can they keep this direction, as nobody will come under present restrictions.

 

I just wonder, is there any rational journalist at these news briefings, asking them, do they really believe any tourist will go through endless paperwork, just to arrive into a semiquarantine?

Well, with the new 'electronic tracking wristbands' they won't need to worry about anyone coming!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103239/

He is correct.

 

Should be 10 day quarantine for vaccinated and non-vaccinated.

 

Vaccinated people can carry the virus, spread the virus, be sick from the virus and die from the virus.

 

It is pure nonsense to suggest vaccinated and non-vaccinated should be treated any differently.

 

The realms of stupidity...............there for all to see.\

 

 

They dont care about Covid infecting or killing people really, its all about selling their vaccines for profit.

 

If they really cared about Covid then simply make every person, vaccinated or not, undergo mandatory 10 day quarantine.