Rhacsyn Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said: Deliberately misleading people “AstraZeneca is known to be over 90 per cent effective against hospitalization from the latest strain spreading throughout the globe, the Delta variant. Sinovac’s efficacy, on the other hand, is only at around 50” They compare the effectiveness against hospitalization for AZ against overall efficacy against Sinovac. Which makes no sense the data from Indonesia suggests that Sinovac is over 90% effective against hospitalization why don’t people actually read what’s in the article? On a slight tangent, the report states that she is head of the faculty of "science", whereas she is, more correctly, the head of the faculty of "political science" https://www.research.chula.ac.th/researcher-/siripan-nogsuan-sawasdee/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 the Sinovac might not have the equivalent potent effectiveness in avoiding IntensiveCare/Deaths as those other concoctions - but when compared against the opposition; has Sinovac (being the only actual vaccine) ITSELF killed or caused Stroke/HeartAttacks? like those reported on the competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakeopete Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Prayuth's master Emperor Pooh make the decisions for him, he is only the tyrant governor of China's territory Siam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jajazazajaja Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhacsyn said: On a slight tangent, the report states that she is head of the faculty of "science", whereas she is, more correctly, the head of the faculty of "political science" https://www.research.chula.ac.th/researcher-/siripan-nogsuan-sawasdee/ the plot thickens, thanks for that. there is a definite misinformation campaign going on with Sinovac and people here are falling for it. these are very serious matters and peoples lives are at stake. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 It has more vitamin 'C' than the other jabs ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 6 hours ago, smedly said: very brave for speaking up she will be contacted soon and threatened like the one reported last week Or more likely receive a research endowment from CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, sapson said: You have to wonder how much these guys need? "How many mansions? How many yachts? How much is enough, while there are children going to bed hungry in this country?" - US Senator Bernie Sanders, during his 8 hour filibuster of Congress in 2010. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Maybe it has something to do with the Chinese Government Yes. A certain branch of the Chinese govt. https://www.thebigchilli.com/feature-stories/thailands-six-pack-the-powerful-thai-chinese-families-who-dominate-the-countrys-business-scene ???????????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: Professor Siripan told us the main question she has for the government is why they are still choosing Sinovac over other vaccine alternatives when it’s clear that it is more expensive and has a much lower efficacy rate? Tunnel vision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: Professor Siripan told us the main question she has for the government is why they are still choosing Sinovac over other vaccine alternatives The JFCCT covid-19 vaccination plan on 6th May gave a different picture. At least 100 million doses will be procured within this year of which 63 million doses will be supplied by AZ, 2 million doses from Sonovac and 37 million doses will be aquired from other manufacturers such as Pfizer. J&J and Moderna. Sinovac is popular with the developing countries because it is the cheapest of the other available vaccines. Don't understand the rationale behind the professor criticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Leading Chula professor criticizes government’s Sinovac obsession He's not the only one, for sure. Me too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kynikoi Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, smedly said: buy one get one free But billed 2x @ 125% and kickback 225% Besides, just servile subjects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieM Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, rodknock said: some times it is better to keep my mouth shut, then to really say what i want to say!!!!!! The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men / women to say nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieM Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, rudi49jr said: This is a matter of prestige/face for China, they just want as many countries as possible to order and use their vaccine. So my bet is that they’re throwing around quite a bit of money as an ‘incentive’ to persuade the powers that be to order the vaccine. And we all know the one and only true god that the Thai generals and their cronies pray to. It's called vaccine diplomacy the Chinese are trying to use the vaccine to gain power over other countries. Sadly for them their vaccine is of poor quality. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender19 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Probably because. https://www.kaohoon.com/news/international/413496 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 8 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: Childish question. Maybe childish, but out of the mouths of babe's.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Artisi said: Maybe childish, but out of the mouths of babe's.......... ...comes lots of rancid vomit???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Milk from mommy's tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Osthos said: She's right. If Thailand is going to be battling the Delta variant, then we have no actual data on how effective it is. As I posted elsewhere, both the Pfizer/Biontech and AZ vaccine are over 90% effective in preventing people from needing hospital treatment, as per a UK Government report yesterday. Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said: the plot thickens, thanks for that. there is a definite misinformation campaign going on with Sinovac and people here are falling for it. these are very serious matters and peoples lives are at stake. https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said: Deliberately misleading people “AstraZeneca is known to be over 90 per cent effective against hospitalization from the latest strain spreading throughout the globe, the Delta variant. Sinovac’s efficacy, on the other hand, is only at around 50” They compare the effectiveness against hospitalization for AZ against overall efficacy against Sinovac. Which makes no sense the data from Indonesia suggests that Sinovac is over 90% effective against hospitalization why don’t people actually read what’s in the article? https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 The WHO EUL’s for those two vaccines were unique in that unlike the Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Jonhson & Johonson vaccines that it had also approved, neither had undergone review and approval by a strict national or regional regulatory authority such as the US Food and Drug Administration or the European Medicines Agency. Nor have Phase 3 results of the Sinopharm and Sinovac trials been published in a peer-reviewed medical journal. More to the point, post-approval, any large-scale tracking of the efficacy of the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccine rollouts by WHO or national authorities seems to be missing. In contrast, rollouts of other vaccines have seen careful monitoring and assessment by the regulatory agencies of the US, UK, Europe, as well as independent researchers. The massive Israeli rollout of Pfizer’s vaccine by countries, for instance, saw the detailed reporting of dataon illness, hospitalizations, and among hundreds of thousands of people who were vaccinated as compared to similar groups of people who had not received their jabs. https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Salerno said: He? In these 'woke' days confusion is allowed (but not forgiven) Edited June 23, 2021 by soalbundy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines You won't know these details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieM Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines That will be the start of the trouble, the Thai people are already wary of the Chinese if this happens can you imagine how angry the Thai people will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I wonder when she gets her new grant money from a Western institution? ???? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jajazazajaja Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, Redline said: https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/ did you even read the article? According to the WHO, which recently granted both vaccines “Emergency Use Listings”, Sinovac’s vaccine efficacy stands at 51% against symptomatic disease and 100% against severe disease. 100% is not bad, is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jajazazajaja Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JamieM said: It's called vaccine diplomacy the Chinese are trying to use the vaccine to gain power over other countries. Sadly for them their vaccine is of poor quality. poor quality? Well the WHO disagreed According to the WHO, which recently granted both vaccines “Emergency Use Listings”, Sinovac’s vaccine efficacy stands at 51% against symptomatic disease and 100% against severe disease. If we can 100% eliminate severe COVID then this pandemic is over do you understand? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamieM Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jajazazajaja said: do you understand? I understand that the WHO organisations word is not to be trusted, nor in the best interests of the Thai people. NEVER FORGET 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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