CRA proposes review of hospital bed management and medics as top priority

[webfact]

Basic beds set up for detainees at a field hospital by the Thai Immigration Police in Bangkok. (Photo by THAI IMMIGRATION POLICE)

 

Chulabhorn Royal Academy Secretary-General, Professor Dr. Nithi Mahanonda, has proposed a reprioritisation of Thailand’s strategies to cope with the third wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, which is rapidly spreading “far and wide” to the point that “we do not know who are infected among the people around us.”

 

In his Facebook post, he said that the top priority now is not to protect those who are not infected or to prevent the infected from spreading the disease, as it was when infections were not widespread, but is now about the management of hospital beds, intensive care units in particular, and of human resources to take care of patients.

 

He proposed the scaling down of pro-active case finding, so there will be sufficient resources to focus on people who think they may be infected, or develop mild symptoms, so they will get tested.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/cra-proposes-review-of-hospital-bed-management-and-medics-as-top-priority/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-07-05

 

[RichardColeman]

God, this man is quite utterly insane.

 

His entire theory is 'We do not know who has it, but we wont go looking for it, we we let it come to us, and we will just manage the beds as and when they turn up sick'

 

With people in charge like this Thailand I pity what is about to happen to its populace in the next few months. I can see deaths coming to 100 soon - though I doubt they will be reported

[smedly]

I am utterly speachless @RichardColeman sums it up perfectly in the above post

[jerrymahoney]

From the ThaiPBS link in the OP:

 

He asked the public not to worry too much about the importance of immune produced by each make of vaccine, noting that there are several more factors contributing to infection by the virus, the onset of symptoms and the protection from infection.

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by jerrymahoney

[ukrules]

It's about to hit the fan, very soon and very quickly. They obviously can't see it coming.

 

I also think what's coming is going to be several orders of magnitude higher than what anyone expects.

 

It's going to get real bad, real quick in the coming weeks.

 

[Excel]

12 minutes ago, ukrules said:

It's about to hit the fan, very soon and very quickly. They obviously can't see it coming.

 

I also think what's coming is going to be several orders of magnitude higher than what anyone expects.

 

It's going to get real bad, real quick in the coming weeks.

 

Unfortunately I fear you are right 

[Blumpie]

4 minutes ago, Excel said:

Unfortunately I fear you are right 

He is right.  This isn't even the peak of 5k cases per day.  We're about 2 weeks away from the peak.  And it's still rising.  

[Excel]

5 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

He is right.  This isn't even the peak of 5k cases per day.  We're about 2 weeks away from the peak.  And it's still rising.  

Hope it doesn't get like India did where people were throwing the dead bodies in the rivers

[jerrymahoney]

4 hours now and yet to see the familiar "I hope I am wrong but ... "

[internationalism]

I don't think there is national database of spare hospital, hospitel and field hospital beds updated in real time.

That would be ideal, so doctors can refer their patients to the nearest one and book an admission. 

Similarly there should be a similar system for medics job placement within provinces.

 

Some hospitals are shutting down their not essential treatments wards, so personel can be allocated to covid patients. Siriraj, the largest hospital, is closing ER and  non essential walk in treatments.

 

Looks, like there is shortage of test kits, and there is no point of deep screening and tracing, if there are no beds.

Health system is shutting down, but exactly same was happening elsewhere in the world already the first wave.

Damage done by allowing songkran and the 3rd wave to go on is irreversible. This wave is slow progressing, but surely far from seeing the end of it. It would be wise for city dwellers to move to provinces, to less densely populated areas, for a few weeks.

Edited July 5, 2021 by internationalism

[Bkk Brian]

Leaked govt doc: meeting took place & decision made 2 not give 1st batch of Pfizer 2 frontline medics needing boost aft 2 doses of Sinovac. Decision 2 avoid undermining trust in Sinovac. What can govt do? 1) apologise 2) Keep BSing 3) Say it's fake

 

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1411845225245405185

 

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What can govt do?

Lie....

[Xonax]

It would cost 1 Billion Baht á month just to test Bangkok population, so off course they have other priorities.

[Swampy999]

Forward he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
And the general sat
And the lines on the map
Moved from side to side

Out of the way
It's a busy day
I've got things on my mind
For the want of the price
Of tea and a slice
The old man died

[jerrymahoney]

re the Twitter comment above about "undermining the trust in Sinovac"

 

Scientists say news about the Delta strain should not be disseminated in a sensationalising manner.

 

The Delta strain is significantly more infectious but it spreads the same way as the original virus. Like the original novel coronavirus, the Delta variant also spreads through ‘fleeting’ encounters and respiratory aerosols.

 

There is so much scaremongering going on over the 'Delta' variant or the 'Delta Plus' variant of the novel coronavirus contagion that started the COVID-19 pandemic that epidemiologists have begun to warn against the tone and tenor of news dissemination on the issue.

 

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/covid-delta-variant-is-in-the-air-you-breathe-dont-spread-panic-its-behaving-like-original-covid-virus/775982

[thailand49]

Instead of being proactive it is reactive that is exactly why the problem exist today,  In the beginning it was the lockdown yes it was successful so instead of getting ready for the worse they they sat back and bragged to the country and world took the attitude " LOS, TIT " put all their eggs into the bubble etc etc instead of planning more beds, more train staff, medical equipment, medicine and first and foremost obtain VACCINES

 

Just like now everyone thinking for themselves their own areas instead of solving the problem as a group. You can built all the beds in the world as long as you continue to allow corruption and infected visitors with fake documents and illegal migrants come in from all your surrounding borders all for the sake of $$$$ at the expense of your citizen. Someone might think about stemming the flow of the problem at the same time dealing with the infected. If more time was spent on curbing the problem as a whole instead of spending time and resources up the butts of the Chinese with ideas like bubble, sad box, moving on, yes lets move on and address the problems!

Edited July 5, 2021 by thailand49

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He proposed the scaling down of pro-active case finding, so there will be sufficient resources to focus on people who think they may be infected, or develop mild symptoms, so they will get tested

I've got to think about this a little longer... BRB

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's about to hit the fan, very soon and very quickly. They obviously can't see it coming.

 

I also think what's coming is going to be several orders of magnitude higher than what anyone expects.

 

It's going to get real bad, real quick in the coming weeks.

 

Bangkok figures have been steadily rising now the same variant has gone nationwide, it's about to explode.

[mtls2005]

Yeah, just take a look at the Bangkok subforum here. Hospitals closing ERs, deferring all but the most dire of surgeries.

 

And Samut Prakan has similar issues.

 

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He proposed the scaling down of pro-active case finding

 

An interesting approach.

 

 

He's had a low profile, until the Sinopharm iniative. Based on these statements maybe best if he steps away from the limelight?

 

 

 

 

 

[TheFishman1]

How about priority of giving for her to leave her the vaccine

[Guderian]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He proposed the scaling down of pro-active case finding,

 

From the government's viewpoint that makes sense. Proactive case finding is roughly half the total so at a stroke the headline daily new case number will be halved to just 3,000. I can imagine the announcement from Prayut in a few days time: great news, our strategy is working and cases have gone down dramatically, so let's bring forward the reopening of the country to early September!

[sandyf]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

God, this man is quite utterly insane.

 

His entire theory is 'We do not know who has it, but we wont go looking for it, we we let it come to us, and we will just manage the beds as and when they turn up sick'

Ignoring the source to concentrate on the fallout is not a policy that we haven't seen before.

 

The Home Office’s Chief Scientific Adviser, John Aston, wrote to the chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee following the Home Secretary’s appearance last month, to make it clear that on 23 March, SAGE advised that the numbers of cases arriving from other countries were estimated to be insignificant when compared to the rate of in-country transmissions. 

https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/05/response-to-coronavirus-border-policy-report/

 

If contentious decisions were a definition of insanity, then sane politicians would be as common as a 9 bob note. Selective memory and xenophobia are root of many an opinion.

[vandeventer]

It reminds me a bit like home. but the beds look much better.

 

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling music video has been removed. 

[AlQaholic]

Yes, let's just manage the beds respirators and caregiver staff, that has worked so well in other countries. Quote from a former perspident: "It's just a few cases, maybe one or two at most, and it will go away soon by itself, like magically disappear, you'll see" and "If we stop the testing, cases will go away, it's the testing that makes cases go up".

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by AlQaholic

[MrJ2U]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

God, this man is quite utterly insane.

 

His entire theory is 'We do not know who has it, but we wont go looking for it, we we let it come to us, and we will just manage the beds as and when they turn up sick'

 

With people in charge like this Thailand I pity what is about to happen to its populace in the next few months. I can see deaths coming to 100 soon - though I doubt they will be reported

Yes, so depressing seeing these idiots doing the wrong thing every step of the way.

 

WHO is urging countries to produce, buy, and get your population vaccinated.  Unvaccinated people are reservoirs for variants.  

 

Reading the news about the months delay to get the Moderna into private hospitals because of all the beuacracy and red tape is heartbreaking.

 

If this government had procured and paid double for the Rna vaccines a year ago like Israel it would have paid for the vaccines in tax revenue a thousand times over.

 

Meanwhile  Anutin, HiSo's, and the multitude of  Generals, were having a celebration at a resort in Phuket while hospital beds are running out in Bangkok.

 

Inept fools.

[dallen52]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

God, this man is quite utterly insane.

 

His entire theory is 'We do not know who has it, but we wont go looking for it, we we let it come to us, and we will just manage the beds as and when they turn up sick'

 

With people in charge like this Thailand I pity what is about to happen to its populace in the next few months. I can see deaths coming to 100 soon - though I doubt they will be reported

 

I re read it several times.

Just silly jibberish.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by metisdead
Animated trolling meme removed.

[newnative]

In a word, huh???

[SuwadeeS]

Thai like to impress and show off with uniforms etc.

 

I do know, they still discriminate foreigners.

Sample:  

A school in north east said to teachers, that all teachers will be vaccinated next Tuesday. There is one single foreign teacher at that school.

Today, she became a message, said, that she will be disclosed from the vaccination.

 

Only the THAI teachers will be vaccinated!!!!!

 

Thai is so fascist!!!!!!!!!!!

And always believe the can hide it. 

I will never recommend to anybody.

 

[Keesters]

53 minutes ago, SuwadeeS said:

Thai like to impress and show off with uniforms etc.

 

I do know, they still discriminate foreigners.

Sample:  

A school in north east said to teachers, that all teachers will be vaccinated next Tuesday. There is one single foreign teacher at that school.

Today, she became a message, said, that she will be disclosed from the vaccination.

 

Only the THAI teachers will be vaccinated!!!!!

 

Thai is so fascist!!!!!!!!!!!

And always believe the can hide it. 

I will never recommend to anybody.

 

And if the Thai teachers had any morals they would refuse vaccination until their farang collegue is included in the program. 

 

I'll not hold my breath though waiting for them to show solidarity. Thailand is most definitely a dog eat dog, me, me, me selfish country.