"No one is safe until everyone is safe" - Aussie couple highlight foreigners facing vaccine trouble in Thailand

[Why Me]

India, a chaotic mess of a country, dropped from 400k cases/day in April to 20k today by means of strict measures.

 

Applying the Bochner-Tao theory of randomized quantum extrapolation I predict Thailand will drop to less than 1000 cases/day by Aug. 1. Please feel free to make a note and come back and like this post in two weeks time.

[fusion58]

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"No one is safe until everyone is safe"

The premise is true.

 

Unfortunately, "we're all in this together" doesn't compute when you're talking about a feudal society.

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, Why Me said:

They did fork up long ago not ensuring supplies.

How long ago, we were getting very few cases long ago. 

[Why Me]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

How long ago, we were getting very few cases long ago. 

True, very few countries (any?) predicted the severity of the new waves and nasty variants.

[khunPer]

47 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You don't get it. Delta is here. No isolation is perfect. If you're not vaccinated it's not IF you will get infected, it's WHEN. Of course vaccinated people get infected too, but they have protection against severe case (but some vaccines are much better than others). 

 

I just booked for a jab tonight. So I won't be waiting until October or later for anything and I never intended to IF I could get anything earlier. 

I do get it, think of yourself first.

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I do get it, think of yourself first.

What's that supposed to mean?

[Lapun]

1 hour ago, Why Me said:

Thailand has administered at least 12,908,193 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 9.3% of the country’s population.

According to Our World in Data, 

 

[MrJ2U]

2 hours ago, Solinvictus said:

Really? With government provided healthcare you should have already received your services. Quite a significance indeed.

Up here in Sakon Nakhon many teachers, nurses, and doctors haven't received any vaccines.

 

Government health care or not thered a shortage of vaccines.

 

 

[gk10012001]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

I won't ask where you pulled that percentage from.

Flu experts, estimate that 5 to 20% of a population get the flu in a bad season.  They do not really know since they rarely test people for the flu.  So, assuming 10% of the population will get COVID, being of a somewhat similar physical virus.  That would mean in the USA for example, 30 million people could have or had the COVID.  Current total deaths attributed to COVID in the USA are:

 

34,000,000 cases, 622,000 deaths.

 

Now that case number is highly suspect because many of the so called deaths were old people or sick people or people with various underlying conditions and a flu, or just about any disease probably could or would have or did affect them, and COVID may have just been going for the ride.  I also think that many more people had COVID than is being reported.  Back in early 2020, in states like New Jersey where I was working, and around New York City, one could hardly be tested due to lack of test kits or facilities.  And this went on for months.  They would turn you away from the hospital unless you had severe symptoms. 

 

 The world numbers at the moment are:

 

189,000,000 cases, 4,000,000 deaths.  With the world population at around 8 billion, 8,000,000,000.......  if one takes the 10% infected value, than over 800,000,000 million cases may be out there.  So again they are under counting by quite a bit.  Of course they are not running around testing everybody.  With populations of over 1 billion people in China, and India, it is impossibly that they all have been tested for COVID.

 

  Is COVID a serious issue?  Of course it is.  But with mutations, and variants which are known to happen with other corona viruses similar to flues, any vaccine product will have reduced efficacy, not to mention not sure how long immunity will last.  Flu vaccines are mass produced in advance of a flu season and the manufacturers have to take a guess at what strain(s) to produce for several months in advance in order to make the millions of doses.

 

    The world may keep chasing its tail on this COVID and keep getting diminished returns, while crushing economies. 

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.

[Stargeezr]

For the anti vaxxers with the high IQs. Get your heads out of the clouds. Simple fact is that the Delta and Lambda variants

love people like you. When you are sick and dying in a hospital, be sure to tell the doctors and nurses of your high IQs.

I am sure that they will be impressed...  Not...

Geezer

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm... same BS...., different day?

[mberbae]

Let's see, the Perry's had a chance to get a vaccine

from 9am to 12 but show up at 11 am.  That tells me

everything.

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

BS. Not one word in Oz media - would be a lead story on all media outlets if true.

Or if they knew.

[DrJack54]

Today 9692

Die 67

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Today 9692

Die 67

Keeping the numbers below the panic trigger I see. 

Edited July 16, 2021 by jacko45k

[BangkokReady]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

They consider Thailand to be their second home having lived in the kingdom for 14 years. 

Sorry.  The feeling isn't mutual.

[Sharron Merrilees]

I can't see you's are going on about, stay where you are because I'm down here in Australia and we are once again in lockdown And in such a stuff up with the vaccine roll out with Scot Morrison and his pals, by the time we get over this one something else will come along. I can't get vaccinated because of my age and don't want AZ, Pfizer finely got here but only up 59yrs. Thailand mightn't be the land of smiles at this time, but it will be again and I hope  like hell to be there.

[IamNoone88]

18 hours ago, John Drake said:

There can be no reciprocity because there is no vaccine. What I cannot understand is people who say they have the opportunity to be vaccinated but turn it down because they want a "name brand" vaccine. Better take what you can get, especially if you're a foreigner, because I don't see any big shipment of vaccine to Thailand on the horizon.

Hobson's choice. Rather like being asked if one would prefer to be shot, hung or electrocuted. I would have refused the Sinovac vaccine. I received AZ and yes I would have preferred an mRNA vaccine. China has a terrible reputation.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Or if they knew.

Earlier I posted a link to the media report. That charter flight reference by the member was actually for fee paying overseas students. The member's allegation was false. I also provided other links talking to free Covid vaccinations for foreigners in Oz and the value of overseas fee paying students to the OZ economy -  it is significant - to counter any attempts by the 'right of centre members' on this forum with their usual conspiracy nonsense.

Edited July 16, 2021 by simple1

[pattaya1234was]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The personal baiting part of your post is ignored. I'm so totally disgusted with smug expats implying expats with passports don't deserve jabs.

 

Don't bait me with that garbage again. Try that on someone else.

 

As far as Pattaya yes there is a shortage of vaccines here but some high risk Thais have been served with high risk expats explicitly excluded.

 

 

 

If by high risk you mean over 75 then it has been possible for the past few weeks to travel to Bangkok and get  a walk-in vaccination of AZ. I have advertised this possibility on here  and over 30 acquaintances have taken advantage-they made the  effort and did not sit behind a keyboard complaining. That possibility closes today. They just needed a Passport.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, pattaya1234was said:

If by high risk you mean over 75 then it has been possible for the past few weeks to travel to Bangkok and get  a walk-in vaccination of AZ. I have advertised this possibility on here  and over 30 acquaintances have taken advantage-they made the  effort and did not sit behind a keyboard complaining. That possibility closes today. They just needed a Passport.

Yes. I know. I have posted about that multiple times. I am not that old. High risk in Thailand is defined as age 60 or over and/or with these conditions:

- Severe Chronic Respiratory Diseases (CRDs)
- Coronary artery disease (CAD)
- Chronic kidney disease (CKD) (5th stage)
- Stroke
- Cancer patients receiving chemotherapy
- Diabetes
- Obesity (weight > 100 kg or BMI > 35 kg/m²)
 

[J Town]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. I know. I have posted about that multiple times. I am not that old. High risk in Thailand is defined as age 60 or over and/or with these conditions:

- Severe Chronic Respiratory Diseases (CRDs)
- Coronary artery disease (CAD)
- Chronic kidney disease (CKD) (5th stage)
- Stroke
- Cancer patients receiving chemotherapy
- Diabetes
- Obesity (weight > 100 kg or BMI > 35 kg/m²)
 

But you're still hansome man!

[Mickymau]

Hi, I found a hospital 2 weeks ago that is getting the vaccine, they were so helpful, the even contacted me yesterday, to say thay 19th this month will send me form to register. They said they will get the vaccins next month. I a long way from me in Pattaya, but i will bite the bullet, and go there when they tell me for my first shot

[BTB1977]

Don't know what all the fuss is about. You die you die. You live you live. Isn't that every day life? Chicken Little syndrome . There should be a shot for that. 

[mikebell]

23 hours ago, tonray said:

With all due respect, less than a third of all Thai citizens have been vaccinated as of yet

5% does not = 1/3.

[tonray]

5 minutes ago, mikebell said:

5% does not = 1/3.

It does = 'less than 1/3" however...get out your math books

[Eloquent pilgrim]

40 minutes ago, mikebell said:

5% does not = 1/3.

He didn't say it did.

 

If you're going to be pedantry, at least try and get it right; because it's a little bit embarrassing when you get it wrong

[wensiensheng]

12 hours ago, Solinvictus said:

Really? With government provided healthcare you should have already received your services. Quite a significance indeed.

Hmm, in that case I suppose the difficulty that I face is understanding the ideological significance of government provided health care in countries like, oh I dunno, the Uk, USA, France, Germany, actually, now I think of it, a lot of non socialist countries.

 

just what is your point, or are you talking to an audience consisting of only yourself?

 

 

[J Town]

7 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

He didn't say it did.

 

If you're going to be pedantry, at least try and get it right; because it's a little bit embarrassing when you get it wrong

Do you mean "pedantic?"  (That knife cuts both ways) ????