heybruce Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, papa al said: Who would pay for a large n study.? No one. Pharm companies can't profit, so not them. NIH/CDC would look dumb with a (+) result, so definitely not them. Multiple studies into the effectiveness of ivermectin in treating Covid 19 have been conducted and are being conducted. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/09/scicheck-ongoing-clinical-trials-will-decide-whether-or-not-ivermectin-is-safe-effective-for-covid-19/ Overall results are inconclusive. That may change. Until then you are experimenting with your own body by using ivermectin or any other medicine for unprescribed and unproven purposes. I don't care if you want to do that, but you shouldn't promote such self-experimentation for others without making it clear that is what you are doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 22 hours ago, papa al said: Done got it. When papa got covid in July, 20mg poultry Iver cleared it up pronto. Ever think you didn't really have Covid? Where you tested for it? You may have had a cold or the flu and those symptoms were alliviated by the slight anti-viral affects of ivermectin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, Tony125 said: Ever think you didn't really have Covid? Where you tested for it? You may have had a cold or the flu and those symptoms were alliviated by the slight anti-viral affects of ivermectin. On 9/13/2021 at 4:02 PM, papa al said: Came down with the 'vid July 23. Upper resp and eyes inflamed &c.. Took Lazada Iver 20mg. Feeling pretty good in 2 days. Riding dirt bike again in a week. Sept.10: Antigen test was (-). Antibody test was (+) at >3000. Supposedly this indicates that I have no covid now, but did before, and now have big time immunity. ////// [Old & obese but healthy] 23 hours ago, papa al said: Done got it. When papa got covid in July, 20mg poultry Iver cleared it up pronto. Maybe read the thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 10:02 AM, papa al said: Came down with the 'vid July 23. Upper resp and eyes inflamed &c.. Took Lazada Iver 20mg. Feeling pretty good in 2 days. Riding dirt bike again in a week. Sept.10: Antigen test was (-). Antibody test was (+) at >3000. Supposedly this indicates that I have no covid now, but did before, and now have big time immunity. ////// [Old & obese but healthy] Not sure what this proves....you have a weak immune system? 30% of people have no symptoms and take no medicines!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, heybruce said: Until then you are experimenting with your own body by using ivermectin or any other medicine for unprescribed and unproven purposes. I don't care if you want to do that, but you shouldn't promote such self-experimentation for others without making it clear that is what you are doing. 1. Experimental vaccines way more scary. Safety of Iver is proven. 2. Not promoting anything bro. Just one old fool's perspective. But thanks for clarifying the obvious. /////// Life is an experiment. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Will B Good said: Not sure what this proves....you have a weak immune system? //// 30% of people have no symptoms and take no medicines!!!! It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid. Supposedly. //// Supposedly. Great. [All these tests are super iffy] The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony125 Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, papa al said: It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid. Supposedly. //// Supposedly. Great. [All these tests are super iffy] The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything. So basically you are now stating you were never tested for Covid but you just "think" you had it and want people to on that asumption take Ivermectin because you think it cured you of Covid, hahaha. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinci Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 i never thought the cucu-for-coco-pop from America would reach Thai soil, but here they are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Henryford said: Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****. It may be the same drug but the dosage (amout of Ivermectin per tab) is totaly different. That's why so many people in us are being admiited to hospitals for taking horse size dosage which is way more than the dosage for a human. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I have read no post here that says people should take Ivermectin. People have posted the results they had when taking it. I have read no post telling others to take it. People need to Chill Da ---- Out People in the USA take horse sized doses - that is not the fault of anyone but themselves. Maybe Darwin at work 'from sea to shining sea' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, papa al said: It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid. Supposedly. //// Supposedly. Great. [All these tests are super iffy] The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything. 9/11 was a false flag? Check. Apollo moon landings were faked? PCR Tests are invalid? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Henryford said: Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****. Because animal doses for Ivermectin may kill you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 4:19 PM, papa al said: Thought experiment. Let's say that those Ivermectin believers are right: It works. The CDC/NIH could not approve it because the emergency auths for the 'vaccines' are predicated on absence of alternate treatments. Get it? No wonder that discussion of Iver is banned on so many platforms. Nope. There are alternative treatments for Covid, such as monoclonal antibodies and Dexamethazone. Your internet friends are lying to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 13 hours ago, papa al said: Who would pay for a large n study.? No one. Pharm companies can't profit, so not them. NIH/CDC would look dumb with a (+) result, so definitely not them. And yet there are large studies in process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Tony125 said: So basically you are now stating you were never tested for Covid but you just "think" you had it and want people to on that asumption take Ivermectin because you think it cured you of Covid, hahaha. Everything you write is wrong: 1. Papa was (+) for antibody test. Antibody test is presumptive for previous exposure, not definitive. There is no definitive test for covid. 2.. Believe it would be smart to take Iver for covid, as there is no downside, but up to you. 4 hours ago, Tony125 said: That's why so many people in us are being admiited to hospitals for taking horse size dosage which is way more than the dosage for a human. Zero have been admitted for or treated for Iver OD. Never. In all history. 0. Sheesh! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, papa al said: 1. Experimental vaccines way more scary. Good job there are no experimental vaccines in use then. 5 hours ago, papa al said: The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything. The inventor of PCR testing died in 2019 and he didn't say any such thing. As mentioned in the article below from fullfact.org: Quote The author actually quotes Dr Mullis as saying “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron” within the context of testing viral load (the amount of virus present) in people with HIV. This doesn’t mean he thought PCR testing didn’t work at all, but that there are limitations in detecting the specific levels of a virus from a sample using PCR testing. The inventor of PCR never said it wasn’t designed to detect infectious diseases 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, papa al said: Zero have been admitted for or treated for Iver OD. Never. In all history. 0. Sheesh! That's absolutely false. Here are just a couple of examples (there are plenty more). At least two hospitalized with potential ivermectin toxicity Man With COVID Overdoses on Ivermectin Edited September 17, 2021 by GroveHillWanderer 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: That's absolutely false. Here are just a couple of examples (there are plenty more). At least two hospitalized with potential ivermectin toxicity Man With COVID Overdoses on Ivermectin 1. potential Iver toxicity on admitting; never actually diagnosed. 2. Man took Iver and a bunch of other drugs. 5 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, papa al said: 1. potential Iver toxicity on admitting; never actually diagnosed. 2. Man took Iver and a bunch of other drugs. 5 5 OK, if you don't like those links, there are others, as I mentioned. For instance: Person hospitalised after taking livestock medicine Mercy doctor sees patients with Ivermectin poisoning in rural Missouri hospitals As the second of those links states: Quote National data shows Ivermectin cases are rising, with doctors seeing Ivermectin toxicity in patients in rural hospitals across Missouri. Edited September 17, 2021 by GroveHillWanderer 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: Person hospitalised after taking livestock medicine Mercy doctor sees patients with Ivermectin poisoning in rural Missouri hospitals 1. No Iver toxicity diagnosed in this case. 2. Reporting doctor : "Brown says Ivermectin, at the right dose, isn't harmful to humans." Article did not really mention the ill effects of the 'high dosage' Iver. Or what doses were. Weak report. Where's the beef? Edited September 17, 2021 by papa al 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 10:48 AM, papa al said: Done got it. When papa got covid in July, 20mg poultry Iver cleared it up pronto. Is he laying eggs now? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post partington Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 7 hours ago, papa al said: It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid. Supposedly. //// Supposedly. Great. [All these tests are super iffy] The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything. The inventor of PCR never claimed that it can't diagnose anything. This is just false misrepresentation coupled with wilful ignorance. The FDA have approved countless PCR panel tests to identify all kinds of pathogens causing every type of disease including meningitis, tuberculosis, urinary tract infections, sepsis, and gastrointestinal infections. These are and have been in use way before covid, and more are being developed all the time. These are simple verifiable facts, so stating the contrary is futile. Here are just a few from many listed here https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/in-vitro-diagnostics/nucleic-acid-based-tests#microbial Anthrax: Bacillus Anthracis B. anthracis Real-time PCR Assay Centers for Disease Control and Prevention K192871 Bordetella (whooping cough) AMPLIVUE BORDETELLA ASSAY QUIDEL CORPORATION K143206 Dengue Dengue virus CDC DENV-1-4 Real-Time RT-PCR Assay Centers for Disease Control and Prevention K113336 Hepatitis C Abbott Realtime HCV Assay Abbott Molecular, Inc. P100017 S001-S006, S007-S012, S014-S019 Multiple respiratory virus panel including flu CDC Human Influenza Virus Real-time RT-PCR Detection and Characterization Panel Centers for Disease Control and Prevention K080570 Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) Amplified Mycobacterium tuberculosis Direct Test Gen-Probe, Inc. P940034 Gastrointestinal disease multiplex panel to distinguish multiple pathogens including bacterial -salmonella, viral-norovirus, and parasites-giardia, entamoeba. xTAG Gastrointestinal Pathogen Panel (GPP) Luminex Molecular Diagnostics, Inc. K121894, K121454 Smallpox (variola virus) Variola Variola Virus Real-Time PCR Assay Centers for Disease Control and Prevention DEN160016, DEN1600 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorC Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 It's good to have some alternative in stock , especially if you're uninsured. Selfmedicating is the only way to go. Ivermectin is still hard to find . I did some more pharmacies , tell me to try at the hospital . Hydroxychloroquine (sulfate) is easier to find , called Zyquenil 200 mg . 110 B for 10. I haven't found prednisolone (a corticosteroid used to treat inflammation). But these last two can cause serious eye problems , which Ivermectin doesn't . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 13 hours ago, papa al said: 1. Experimental vaccines way more scary. Safety of Iver is proven. 2. Not promoting anything bro. Just one old fool's perspective. But thanks for clarifying the obvious. /////// Life is an experiment. Thailand and other countries are using approved vaccines. No drug is 100% safe, including ivermectin. https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details/list-sideeffects You are taking a drug with proven side effects for an unproven purpose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 12 hours ago, FlorC said: It's good to have some alternative in stock , especially if you're uninsured. Selfmedicating is the only way to go. Ivermectin is still hard to find . I did some more pharmacies , tell me to try at the hospital . Hydroxychloroquine (sulfate) is easier to find , called Zyquenil 200 mg . 110 B for 10. I haven't found prednisolone (a corticosteroid used to treat inflammation). But these last two can cause serious eye problems , which Ivermectin doesn't . I know where you can buy Forsythia cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorC Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: I know where you can buy Forsythia cheap. Forsythia ? That's a plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, FlorC said: Forsythia ? That's a plant. It’s a homeopathic cure. Apparently, Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know about it. At least, that’s what Alan Krumwiede says about it. Edited September 18, 2021 by Danderman123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 unworthy of your usual standards canthai, defending the fully discredited use of Ivermectin for covid treatment. such use is indeed proven as “stupid & dangerous” (and useless) ……. as is hanging oneself for thrills or stuffing rectums with hamsters …..though both “bring relief” they say …..yes, along with Ivermectin in the necessary massive toxic qtys to “ relieve” covid / covid symptoms, life threatening results….but lets not mention that, eh ? btw any “nobel laureate” supporting this is clearly speaking out of his field (and his rectum) or a certifiable loon , or both…….and certainly unemployable unless he has his own pseudo- science institute or book contract… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdf Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 2:54 PM, gamb00ler said: My wife takes thyroid hormone that costs $10 for 3 months at Walmart. Here it's about 260฿ for 100. The downside is that Thailand only authorizes a few dosages with rather large gaps between them. For best results she should take 80µ grams daily. Only 50's and 100's are available here. We're becoming very competent pill cutters. Just come to Phnom Penh and tell them you need so and so many bottles of those hormone pills. They'll dump the lot in front of you on the counter and ask to pay, no other questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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