SURVEY: What are your plans for the long term?

[Captain Monday]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Why can't you get PR here?

Do you have a job, or is "base of global operations" other words for 'wearing Mickey Mouse ears, and playing Kumbaya on the ukulele to Chinese 5-year-olds"?

 

 

I am a pilot with a job that requires me to start and finish my trips in the US for a US company. Until the pandemic I didn't "live" there. Being locked out of Thailand for 10 months forced me to secure a residence in the US.  I used to return to Chiang Mai  every 4-6 weeks. It is a very similar lifestyle to the engineers in hydrocarbon extraction industries who work on rotations in  Knoteetingham, remote hostile locations or floating platforms,  but it requires freedom of Constant International Travel. Nobody warned me about a virus..

[Kadilo]

Been coming over for the past 20 plus years and planning my retirement here in the next couple of years. 

Nothing I’ve seen or heard has changed my opinion that it is the place I want to be and not surprised the majority in the poll want to stay. 

As far as as Covid is concerned if they hadn’t been so smug and complacent early on and had taken advantage of the situation they were in, they would have been through the other side by now due to vaccinations. Now they are probably a good year away from any sort of control but once the get the jabbing sorted the rest will follow. 

 

As with a lot of things they seem to make it more difficult for themselves  but you take the nook with the crannies. ( and there are plenty of nooks in Thailand )

Edited July 26, 2021 by Kadilo

[driver52]

2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

whats any of that got to do with what I was  saying?

you reckon we'll be safer with the vax! So I asked you for proof, then you ducked giving an answer by asking me for 'scientific evidence' so I gave you some!

So come on, give us your scientific evidence?

[Khabib]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Unless your 'British by descent' children live in the UK for 2-3 years (with evidence to support those years), before reproducing, your grandkids won't be British citizens.

Who would wish such a horrible outcome for our grandchildren. What's happening now is awful enough, let alone what likely will be permeating uk society in 20 years. Here, relative freedom by a long chalk. I can't imagine for a moment children born in the UK, with UK ancestry would be kicked out. I never heard that before. Should that be the case, buy a dinghy, and head 100 metres off shore, and then come back again 55

Edited July 26, 2021 by Khabib
Additional

[Khabib]

11 minutes ago, Khabib said:

Who would wish such a horrible outcome for our grandchildren. What's happening now is awful enough, let alone what likely will be permeating uk society in 20 years. Here, relative freedom by a long chalk. I can't imagine for a moment children born in the UK, with UK ancestry would be kicked out. I never heard that before. Should that be the case, buy a dinghy, and head 100 metres off shore, and then come back again 55

I'm assuming #britman, I've been lurking on thai visa for 18 years and you're very sensible. Would you suggest my daughter whos 17 with uk passport, and lived there half her life, went back to UK, became pregnant and the baby cannot?

[Khabib]

Just to add, I understand my children have a code (I think s4 or something in their passport) which means any children born abroad may not be entitled to residence UK. But, if my children impregnate or become impregnated by a British citizen, there cannot be any complications for that baby.

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, driver52 said:

you reckon we'll be safer with the vax! So I asked you for proof, then you ducked giving an answer by asking me for 'scientific evidence' so I gave you some!

So come on, give us your scientific evidence?

Christ, try about 80+  years  of science on vaccines  and tell me they were  all wrong, guess your earth is  flat to.Your chart shows  nothing except  deaths over the years doesnt give cause of death and is NOTHING to do with vaccines its  just  irrelevant. because more people died in other years means NOTHING zilch zero, thats not  proof  vaccines dont work.

https://www.immunology.org/celebrate-vaccines/public-engagement/guide-childhood-vaccinations/how-vaccines-work

 

Vaccination is extremely effective with most childhood vaccines effective in 85% to 95% of children who receive them.¹ It is considered one of our greatest global health achievements and is estimated to save 2–3 million lives a year.² Thanks to vaccines, life-threatening diseases that used to be common in young children in the UK, such as diphtheria, whooping cough and polio, are now relatively rare. Looking at the history of vaccine-preventable disease, there is a huge drop in the number of cases of a disease following the introduction of a vaccine against it. If smallpox had not been eradicated, it would cause 5 million deaths worldwide a year!³ Through vaccination, some diseases have even been eradicated completely, for example smallpox.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit

[BritManToo]

33 minutes ago, Khabib said:

I can't imagine for a moment children born in the UK, with UK ancestry would be kicked out.

We're talking about the children of British citizens born outside the UK.

Whom as 'British by Descent' have no automatic right to pass on their citizenship.

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

We're talking about the children of British citizens born outside the UK.

Whom as 'British by Descent' have no automatic right to pass on their citizenship.

Agreed... exactly as you wrote: 

 

 

The rule is that British Citizenship is not automatically Grandfathered-in unless the grandchild of a British Grandparent is born in the UK. 

 

i.e. I am British (Born in the UK). My Son is British by decent, born outside of the UK (has a British Passport).

- My Son’s child will automatically be British IF born in the UK.

- My Son’s child will not automatically be British IF born outside of the UK - but a passport can be applied for and in ‘most’ circumstances the child will be granted British Citizenship (unless there is an outstanding reason why nationality would be rejected applies) 

Edited July 26, 2021 by richard_smith237

[rumak]

I live here comfortably and with a "budget"  much less .   much much less than i could do in the US.

 

Someone challenged me recently when i said that americans were aggressive .  hmmmm.

Well,  i have added something to this post from todays news  :

I now figure,  that i would need a gated community , armored vehicle,  possibly 3 bodyguards, and

just think of all the permits for my arsenal !!   Then once i or my loved one was injured,  the hospital bills !   One week and bankrupt for sure.     

Guess i will stay in Thailand .

 

"Last year marked the deadliest year for shooting-related incidents in the U.S. in at least two decades, according to Gun Violence Archive data with more than 43,000 gun deaths. But GVA's data suggests 2021 is on track to surpass those figures with more than 24,000 gun fatalities reported so far.   Between Saturday, July 17, and Friday, July 23, the Gun Violence Archive tracked at least 915 shooting incidents -- or, a shooting every 12 minutes -- that left at least 430 people dead and 1,007 wounded. In total, more than 1,000 were wounded or killed this week alone. These numbers are not static, and are constantly updated as data comes in."

[Casesrisingpanic]

I am lucky enough to still be working, but have to travel to get there, that is now insanely painful with all the requirements. I did get the sputnik vaccine while I was there last hitch, but I still was required to quarantine for two weeks on my return here, which is completely idiotic and not based on any science or common sense. 

 

But, I have made this place my permanent home base since 1997, all my friends and all my belongings are here. I am staying regardless. 

 

Just hope vaccines are going to be the answer to the draconian measures that are destroying the people far more than any virus ever could.  Pure tyranny. 

 

 

[Khabib]

50 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

We're talking about the children of British citizens born outside the UK.

Whom as 'British by Descent' have no automatic right to pass on their citizenship.

Yes, yes, indeed. But my daughter, who was born here, could go back to UK, pregnant before of after, and the child will have full rights. I understand the finer points you make, I can't imagine, a child of a child born outside the UK would want to live there anymore - serious police state. I'm here, hoping to help my children make the right decisions at the right time according to their wishes and understandings. Sorry, gone off at a tangent, just to note, I like the freedom here.

[1FinickyOne]

7 hours ago, Neeranam said:

There is a big difference in the words 'immigrant' and 'expat'.

Bert, the retired butcher from Bognor Regis, or Helmut, the retired seaman from Hamburg moving to Thailand permanently calls himself an expat, yet a financial advisor from Hong Kong in the UK/Germany is an immigrant. This makes me think it's a superior racial attitude, rather than a snobbish, Colonial-style one. 

sure, but can you measure the difference in bitcoin?

[NanLaew]

On 7/25/2021 at 5:51 AM, NCC1701A said:

On 7/24/2021 at 6:04 PM, Scott said:

what are your long term plans? 

sex.

OK. That's the next seven and a half minutes accounted for.

[NanLaew]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

21 hours ago, thaigrifter said:

It always makes me smile when ex UK residents describe people who go to the UK as "immigrants", and yet refer to themselves as expats when living in Thailand.

There is a big difference in the words 'immigrant' and 'expat'.

Bert, the retired butcher from Bognor Regis, or Helmut, the retired seaman from Hamburg moving to Thailand permanently calls himself an expat, yet a financial advisor from Hong Kong in the UK/Germany is an immigrant. This makes me think it's a superior racial attitude, rather than a snobbish, Colonial-style one.

It's all quite easy when you accept that the term 'expat' or 'expatriate' is not and never has been an immigration status. It's a description of a chosen liestyle. I have been an expat since 1977; a British expat to be precise. That is a British-born person who no longer resides in Britain.

 

Despite having had held various immigration status' and thus being correctly called a non-immigrant in at least a dozen foreign countries including Thailand, Australia, USA, Peru, Brazil, Cuba, China and New Zealand, I have always been a British expat.

 

The woke brigade are the ones conflating immigrant and expat and feeding the irrelevant nonsense of, "...ex UK residents describe people who go to the UK as "immigrants", and yet refer to themselves as expats when living in Thailand."

Edited July 26, 2021 by NanLaew

[Jack1988]

I live in Thailand since almost 5 years. I am married and I have to take care my wife. Of course I would never leave this country also because I can have a good life here

[NanLaew]

57 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Expat... It's a description of a chosen liestyle. ...

Please excuse my Freudian slip masquerading as a typo.

[Khabib]

23 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed... exactly as you wrote: 

 

 

The rule is that British Citizenship is not automatically Grandfathered-in unless the grandchild of a British Grandparent is born in the UK. 

 

i.e. I am British (Born in the UK). My Son is British by decent, born outside of the UK (has a British Passport).

- My Son’s child will automatically be British IF born in the UK.

- My Son’s child will not automatically be British IF born outside of the UK - but a passport can be applied for and in ‘most’ circumstances the child will be granted British Citizenship (unless there is an outstanding reason why nationality would be rejected applies) 

Thanks Richard, that's useful info.

[GinBoy2]

We moved back to the US a few years ago , doing the snowbird thing to our house in Thailand until Covid decided to knock that on the head.

 

We have adult children all here in the US so no attachments there, and I have to say the longer we are away, both of us are questioning what our future relationship to Thailand will be.

 

Work in progress, so time will tell.

[kingstonkid]

On 7/25/2021 at 1:07 PM, Pravda said:

 

Went back to Canada many times pre covid and you couldn't be more wrong. 

I tend to allow others their beliefs However, when it comes to health and finance I can prove that at least in my case I am better off here than in Canada.

 

Canadian hospitals are system generated and it takes forever to see a specialist and get the necessary tests done.  Living in Kingston I was forced to take a bus to Toronto once a month to get a pain shot as there were no clinics that could look after me in the Kingston Ottawa area.

I had a bad back that had me on numerous meds including morphine for the pain for 3 years and doctors there told me there was nothing that could be done.  I came here and was immediately x-rayed MRI nd back into the specialists office where  it was explained that surgery could resolve my issues and make me drug free.  Which they did.  As a retired Mil person the treatment was covered by my pension.  There is no way we can get the medical care the way we get it here ie same day.

 

Financially I live on a military pension as well as disability the funds I receive go a lot further than they ever would in Canada.  Simple question would you rather be on a Canadian pension living here or trying to  live in Canada

[Pravda]

1 minute ago, kingstonkid said:

I tend to allow others their beliefs However, when it comes to health and finance I can prove that at least in my case I am better off here than in Canada.

 

Canadian hospitals are system generated and it takes forever to see a specialist and get the necessary tests done.  Living in Kingston I was forced to take a bus to Toronto once a month to get a pain shot as there were no clinics that could look after me in the Kingston Ottawa area.

I had a bad back that had me on numerous meds including morphine for the pain for 3 years and doctors there told me there was nothing that could be done.  I came here and was immediately x-rayed MRI nd back into the specialists office where  it was explained that surgery could resolve my issues and make me drug free.  Which they did.  As a retired Mil person the treatment was covered by my pension.  There is no way we can get the medical care the way we get it here ie same day.

 

Financially I live on a military pension as well as disability the funds I receive go a lot further than they ever would in Canada.  Simple question would you rather be on a Canadian pension living here or trying to  live in Canada

 

So you are living a comfortable life in Thailand thanks to your Canadian government pension funded mostly by taxpayer. Lets not forget that you are paying for private hospitals using Canadian money that 85% of Thais have no access to. Yes, you have to wait a bit so see a specialist god forbid. Most Thais usually die of cancer after getting diagnosed, while my uncle in Quebec (where healthcare system is supposedly the worst in Canada) is getting multi million dollar treatments and continues to chainsmoke. Canada bad... really bad ????

 

 

[kingstonkid]

On 7/25/2021 at 10:22 PM, pegman said:

Last report I saw Canada had 261 new cases that day. My city of 800k had 13 new cases last Friday. I went for a walk last nite and restaurants, inside and patios, were packed with no one wearing masks. There are numerous walk-in places to go to get any of the top rated vaccines. The CFL camps are open and the first home game here will be at 100% capacity for 2x vax fans. Canada is basicly back to normal so I think your comment is out of line. 

My comment was based on where is the best location for me.  It has very little to do with vaccination.  BUT on that note yes things are opening BUT people are still getting sick and people that live in Canada are telling me that they are getting ready for the 4th wave.

 

The general Medical system here is miles ahead of Canada in that you can see a specialist and get treatment a lot quicker.   Also there is loess stress living her than in Canada.

 

Financially a pension goes a lot further here than it does in Canada.

[kingstonkid]

3 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

So you are living a comfortable life in Thailand thanks to your Canadian government pension funded mostly by taxpayer. Lets not forget that you are paying for private hospitals using Canadian money that 85% of Thais have no access to. Yes, you have to wait a bit so see a specialist god forbid. Most Thais usually die of cancer after getting diagnosed, while my uncle in Quebec (where healthcare system is supposedly the worst in Canada) is getting multi million dollar treatments and continues to chainsmoke. Canada bad... really bad ????

 

 

I have no idea what your point is.  

The question is what are your plans for the long term.

 

My answer is due to MY financial restraints and medical needs I am staying here.

 

While I am glad that your chain-smoking uncle is doing well it does not involve me or my condition.

I spend the better part of 30 yeas with back pain that was never properly diagnosed. 

 

 

Tell me that is a good medical system compared to see the doctor at 9 get x-ray and MRI see the dr at 3 and scheduled for surgery at 4.

 

Oh yeah BTW when I contacted family doctor in Canada about the surgery she told me that it was exactly what i needed and I should get it.

 

[Pravda]

6 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I have no idea what your point is.  

The question is what are your plans for the long term.

 

My answer is due to MY financial restraints and medical needs I am staying here.

 

So, thanks for admitting it is about you and you only. I am here for the same reasons after all, but I don't go on bashing Canada like it's some 3rd world country. I wonder if you didn't have the the luck of winning birth lottery would you still complain about Canada. 

 

 

[kingstonkid]

2 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

So, thanks for admitting it is about you and you only. I am here for the same reasons after all, but I don't go on bashing Canada like it's some 3rd world country. I wonder if you didn't have the the luck of winning birth lottery would you still complain about Canada. 

 

 

I have a feeling you are trolling for an argument that is not there.

 

I have never bashed Canada.  I simply stated that due to financial and medical differences I was better off her than there.  You are the one that assumed I was bashing Canada.  

Until you have served 27 years defending Canada as a member of it's military and being a proud Canadian never assume that a person is bashing their country.  Or start bashing people that you think have a different belief than you.

 

 

[lazygourmet]

After nearly 30 years of living all around Southeast Asia, time is ripe to rediscover Europe.

I've ordered a brand new Volkswagen California camper van and it should be ready by next May, at approximately the same time that my visa extension will end.

[Pravda]

3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I have a feeling you are trolling for an argument that is not there.

 

I have never bashed Canada.  I simply stated that due to financial and medical differences I was better off her than there.  You are the one that assumed I was bashing Canada.  

Until you have served 27 years defending Canada as a member of it's military and being a proud Canadian never assume that a person is bashing their country.  Or start bashing people that you think have a different belief than you.

 

 

 

Maybe I confused you with a previous guy who was bashing it. I am certainly not trolling.

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Until you have served 27 years defending Canada as a member of it's military and being a proud Canadian never assume that a person is bashing their country.

What is there about Canada to make anyone proud?

Apart from your Prime Minister?

[meechai]

On 7/26/2021 at 12:12 AM, rumak said:

Someone challenged me recently when i said that americans were aggressive .  hmmmm.

Well,  i have added something to this post from todays news  :

I now figure,  that i would need a gated community , armored vehicle,  possibly 3 bodyguards, and

just think of all the permits for my arsenal !!   Then once i or my loved one was injured,  the hospital bills !   One week and bankrupt for sure.     

Guess i will stay in Thailand .

 

"Last year marked the deadliest year for shooting-related incidents in the U.S. in at least two decades, ....

I know it is hard to believe but with over 300 million US population compared to Thailands 70 million

Yes it is less publicized in Thailand like everything else as many cases never get past the first investigating bribe taker but...

 

You will be surprised to look up stats for Thailand & see

Thailand has a higher rate of gun-related deaths than the US

 

"It estimates 3.48 murders per 100,000 people in Thailand, three times the rate of neighboring Cambodia and on a par with the United States"

A bullet and a body: Thailand’s troubling gun murders are on par with the United States

 

Gun violence in Thailand: A problem that can't be solved?

 

Firearm News

 

Thailand has 2nd highest gun death rate

[The Cipher]

43 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

What is there about Canada to make anyone proud?

I'm Canadian. From Vancouver. Like most countries, Canada has some good and some bad. What is good and what is bad about that place will probably vary depending on who you ask. Here's how I see it...

 

The good:

• Generally high quality of life;
• High quality of government services. I gripe about my tax bill, but the relative quality of Gov of Canada services compared to those offered somewhere like Thailand is nice. Pandemic response helped put this in perspective for me;
• Generally pristine natural environment with plenty of stuff to do outdoors;
• Abundant natural resources;
• More space in day to day life;
• Quality of general infrastructure for performance in all areas of life is high. It's easier for regular people to build to be elite in Canada than it is in most other countries.
• Generally fantastic as a 'safe option' home base.

The Bad:

• Mostly boring and lacks vibrancy. And I say this as a person coming from one of Canada's most supposedly vibrant cities. My parents appreciate the constancy though, so perspective might change with age;
• The general public feels the need to police others in an attempt to ensure that they conform to 'Canadian values' lol. Can be annoying. Generally the society is heavily policed and regulated;
• The average Canadian is almost unbelievably unsophisticated given the relative wealth of the country;
• The political ideology of the country is shifting in ways that are kind of concerning and could affect Canada's long-term economic competitiveness if recent trends continue.
• An insane number of drug-addled zombies are permitted to roam the streets.
• Due to high cost of living, value proposition may be poor in Canada's most generally attractive cities.