Wall of CM Covid Vaccination Appointment

[Forza2002]

Hi Fangless.. thanks for your feedback. Do they give you any kind of certification to confirm that you have had the 1st jab? 

[fangless]

19 minutes ago, Forza2002 said:

Hi Fangless.. thanks for your feedback. Do they give you any kind of certification to confirm that you have had the 1st jab? 

No they just give you your next appointment card.  I never thought to ask until after I had left!!

I assume the paperwork will come with the second dose. 

They did offer to take your photo with your phone as you receive the actual jab.

[itsari]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Mod666, I have concerns about mixing Covid 19 vaccines for the following reasons:

 

1.  All Covid 19 vaccines have been developed and deployed in less than a year.  This is lightning fast.  In the US all Covid 19 Vaccines are used under an EUA(Emergency Use Authorization).  They have not been fully approved yet.  The long term effects(positive or negative) at this time are not known.

2. If mixing vaccines is such a great idea then why not take multiple doses of the Influenza vaccine from different manufacturers every  seaon?  "More must be good, right"?

3. I have been prescribed medications and have been injected with vaccines in the past for personal and professional reasons.  Too much in a short of amount of time does not always result in the best outcome.  The Thai Health Authorities can do what they feel is right but I am not onboard with the mix of Sinovac and AZ in less than one month.  

4. I would prefer take two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna in a month and see what happens.  If I feel little or no negative effects than I would consider a booster of the same kind of vaccine.  To me this seems to be the safest course of action.  Others will disagree.

5. I have been a victim of doctors over prescribing medications(antibiotics and pain killers).  Therefore, I am now very cautious as to what I consume or let someone inject in my arm.

 

For others my way of thinking is the wrong path but it has works for me.  

Your concerns are understandable. One point you do not mention is that the vaccines you prefer are not easily available and could take a long time before you reach your goal .

[Almer]

8 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Mfd101, actually I have only a 1/4 brain and that was enough to to realize the best place to get vaccinated is in the US.  I will be leaving shortly.  Even the WHO(do not have much faith in them) said mixing vaccines is not recommended but in their noncommittal style said ‘each country can make it’s own decision”.  The US at this point does not recommend mixing vaccines and the idea of  3rd dose(a booster) and only Israel has started this option.  I would rather mix and match Pfizer with Modern or J&J.  Now I have to rest my 1/4 brain.

 

Also, do you think it is a good idea to be injected with Sinovac, AZ and Pfizer all within a matter of months?  I am not ready to be test monkey for vaccines.

You are a test monkey as soon as you get anything.

[mfd101]

5 hours ago, moe666 said:

Mixing the first 4 with moderna or pfizer doesn't make sense as they are totally different types. 

That is rather the point of mixing. The different types approach the problem from different angles. One lot gives you, say, 50% or 70% protection. Combining it with a different type approaching from a different angle gives you as close to 100% protection as you're likely to get.

 

That's the theory at any rate. As far as the early use of mixed vax shows - in Germany, Israel & Canada - there is no new health threat that arises from mixing and the effectiveness outcomes are very high. But yes, it's early days.

 

The question for all of us to answer for ourselves (but bearing in mind that we also have social responsibilities, not just our own selfish interests) is: At this stage of a now more serious and rapidly spreading pandemic, with limited vax available & limited organizational competence on the part of the Thai authorities, what is the best action or actions we should now take? Wait & do nothing? (which is what until a few days ago I was doing but I think time has run out on that). Insist on nothing but the best for ME ME ME? (well good luck with that). Fly off 'home'? (OK, off you go).

 

Or, as I am now choosing, make the best of what's available (here in Surin it'll probably be 2 x SV, but if I'm lucky SV + AZ) and plan booster shot as necessary at a later date.

[Tracyb]

23 minutes ago, Almer said:

You are a test monkey as soon as you get anything.

 

[itsari]

I received a Sinovac vaccine today at the McCormick hospital Chiang Mai . I registered in May at my local clinic . 

I was unaware that there would be a mix of vaccines when I registered . 

Beggars cant be choosers 

[SamSanuk]

“Exactly what I was thinking.  I'm under 55 and got an appointment for this week, which should not be the case due to my age and lack of medical conditions- I'd rather have one of the doses of Pfizer the US just sent over than Sinovac.“

 

Very frustrating to read as I’m close to 62 and haven’t heard a peep. 

[itsari]

3 minutes ago, Tracyb said:

 

Better to be a test monkey than having a far far greater chance of dying when in a high risk group contracting covid 19

[alant]

I got text as well, phoned and cancelled as already had my 1st shot but it is working 2 of my friends were done today and one more I know is scheduled for tomorrow.

Edited August 2, 2021 by alant

[EricTh]

10 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

“I'm wondering if CM is a dumping place for Sinovac ?!!!

 

Coincidence? CM Ram is delaying 2nd doses of AZ for those who given the 1st dose of AZ in June 2021.

CM Ram has only been inoculating those who were able to register through the Mor Prompt app.  

 

Also, any consequence if one turns downs the Wall of CM offer of mixing Sinovac with AZ?  I do not like the idea of mixing Covid 19 vaccines.  All the vaccines were developed within the past year and really no one knows what the long term effects(positive or negative) are?   I would feel safer with the 2 doses of the same vaccine for now.  

Agree. I don't like the mixing of two doses of different technology either. Maybe you can exchange with someone at the vaccination site.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by EricTh

[EricTh]

9 hours ago, mfd101 said:

The different vaccines do different things in your body, together giving much stronger protection against infection, transmission and death. The Brits, Germans & Israelis have been mixing vax, with no reported problems so far.

 

But of course it is up to individuals to make choices and bare the consequences, including the danger that unvaccinated people represent not just to themselves but to their families and every other person they encounter.

 

If you mix different brands of the same technology eg. Pfizer with Moderna, it shouldn't be a problem. Both use mRNA tech.

 

 

 

 

[EricTh]

59 minutes ago, itsari said:

I received a Sinovac vaccine today at the McCormick hospital Chiang Mai . I registered in May at my local clinic . 

I was unaware that there would be a mix of vaccines when I registered . 

Beggars cant be choosers 

Maybe you can exchange with other people here for your second shot. It's better not to mix different tech.

 

How was McCormick hospital? Is it a modern, , clean, well-run hospital?

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by EricTh

[flare]

1 hour ago, SamSanuk said:

“Exactly what I was thinking.  I'm under 55 and got an appointment for this week, which should not be the case due to my age and lack of medical conditions- I'd rather have one of the doses of Pfizer the US just sent over than Sinovac.“

 

Very frustrating to read as I’m close to 62 and haven’t heard a peep. 

They must be going by registration date for those under a certain age- I did register the first day, which may be why I got the appointment so soon.  I would like to know if anyone else under 60 goes and gets their shot without an issue- I can see them looking at my passport and saying, 'Oh, a mistake was made- you're under the age cut-off- sorry.'

[SamSanuk]

17 minutes ago, flare said:

They must be going by registration date for those under a certain age- I did register the first day, which may be why I got the appointment so soon.  I would like to know if anyone else under 60 goes and gets their shot without an issue- I can see them looking at my passport and saying, 'Oh, a mistake was made- you're under the age cut-off- sorry.'

Yes, curious how it goes for you. Keep us posted. 

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, fangless said:

No they just give you your next appointment card.  I never thought to ask until after I had left!!

I assume the paperwork will come with the second dose. 

They did offer to take your photo with your phone as you receive the actual jab.

The certification is very important if we want to travel to other countries.

 

By right, they should have given you the card with 1st dose as I see in many previous photos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Forza2002]

46 minutes ago, EricTh said:

The certification is very important if we want to travel to other countries.

 

By right, they should have given you the card with 1st dose as I see in many previous photos.

 

Not just International travel.. proof of vaccine is required for domestic travel depending on the Province.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Forza2002

[charliebadenhop]

Some people say "the best vaccine is the one you have already gotten" but I do not happen to agree.

 

I am waiting for my two shots of Moderna.

 

 

[The Theory]

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

By right, they should have given you the card with 1st dose

Perhaps after 2nd, when you are fully vaccinated. 

[flare]

9 hours ago, SamSanuk said:

Yes, curious how it goes for you. Keep us posted. 

I still haven't decided if I'm going to pass on the Sinovac vaccine, but, if I do get it on Friday, I'll definitely post in this thread.

[Trujillo]

I would like to know if the appointment is transferable with the caveat that I keep my place in line for any future, different gene therapy that comes later. 

If yes, and my appointment is tomorrow, I'd be willing to allow someone who is actually at high risk to get my allotment, if we agree the details. 

[EricTh]

9 hours ago, The Theory said:

Perhaps after 2nd, when you are fully vaccinated. 

Bummer. I just realized that we have to apply for another certificate for international travel. The ones given by the hospital isn't sufficient.

 

So we need the hospital record of vaccination to apply for another Covid travel certificate. Anybody know where to apply for this?

 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2021 by EricTh

[EricTh]

29 minutes ago, Trujillo said:

I would like to know if the appointment is transferable with the caveat that I keep my place in line for any future, different gene therapy that comes later. 

If yes, and my appointment is tomorrow, I'd be willing to allow someone who is actually at high risk to get my allotment, if we agree the details. 

It's not transferable because it's already on their computer system.

 

They will check your passport and appointment date on the date that you arrive at the hospital. I am sure the approval department (on who to vaccinate first) and the vaccination operation department are two different departments.

 

 

[fangless]

1 hour ago, EricTh said:

It's not transferable because it's already on their computer system.

 

They will check your passport and appointment date on the date that you arrive at the hospital. I am sure the approval department (on who to vaccinate first) and the vaccination operation department are two different departments.

 

 

As I said in my report yesterday they first do a manual check outside at a table against the appointment sheet where you present your passport the first time, get your temp checked, get a number and fill in a form in english.  You then get escorted to an office window where you present the form and your passport where your data is entered into their computer system and a new form printed out.  You then get escorted inside.

My impression is that if your name is not on that first sheet you can forget it.

FYI I apper to have been the last one yesterday at 1500 and was given number 142.

[mfd101]

16 hours ago, itsari said:

Better to be a test monkey than having a far far greater chance of dying when in a high risk group contracting covid 19

Yes, perfection is not available in this world but the anti-vaxers will likely have an early opportunity to check out the next.

[ramrod711]

I had the Sinovac at McCormick yesterday. No problems, well organized, staff was friendly and efficient. I would like to express my gratitude to McCormick, like so many of the other posters here I received a notification by email, showed up at the appointed time and received a free vaccine. Thumbs up to management and staff. I'll be back in three weeks for the AstraZeneca jab. I prepaid for 2 Moderna shots a month ago at Lanna, but they aren't scheduled to occur until October. I have been worried about holding out until then so these vaccinations at McCormick are easing the tension a little.

[sanuk711]

On 8/2/2021 at 9:02 AM, sqwakvfr said:

Mfd101, but the Brits, Germans and Israeli’s are not mixing Sinovac along with Pfizer or Moderna.  If there are cases of mixing of Sinovac with AZ,+Pfizer and Moderna then I would be interested.  But I have not heard of anyone who has mixed Sinovac, Sinopharm with Pfizer or Moderna.  

I guess everyone should just make their own mind up about it & take the responsibility.

 

“Mixing vaccine platforms —a method known as heterologous prime boost— has a long history in immunology as being far superior to multiple doses of the same vaccine,” says Ross Kedl, an immunologist at the University of Colorado Anschutz School of Medicine. 

The gist is this: Different types of vaccines boost the immune system in different ways, so multiple vaccines provide broader coverage. 

Early research has suggested that such an approach may be an effective strategy with Covid-19. A study of nearly 700 people in Spain showed that people who got a second dose of Pfizer’s vaccine after a first dose from AstraZeneca saw their neutralizing antibodies climb sevenfold—a far more robust immune response than in those who had two Astra doses. Another small trial suggested that mixing the two vaccines triggered antibody responses about four times higher than just two doses of Pfizer’s shot. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2021-06-20/is-mixing-vaccines-more-effective

[The Theory]

3 hours ago, EricTh said:

Bummer. I just realized that we have to apply for another certificate for international travel. The ones given by the hospital isn't sufficient.

 

So we need the hospital record of vaccination to apply for another Covid travel certificate. Anybody know where to apply for this?

 

 

 

My guess is this is a vaccination book for Thai people who have plan to travel to other countries. Countries that require Thai to be vaccinated for certain diseases. Students and workers fit in that category.  
 

Edited August 3, 2021 by The Theory

[lexilis]

2 hours ago, fangless said:

As I said in my report yesterday they first do a manual check outside at a table against the appointment sheet where you present your passport the first time, get your temp checked, get a number and fill in a form in english.  You then get escorted to an office window where you present the form and your passport where your data is entered into their computer system and a new form printed out.  You then get escorted inside.

My impression is that if your name is not on that first sheet you can forget it.

This is incorrect. As it happened my name was NOT on that first check-in sheet. I dont know why. I had registered online, which was confirmed, and had received a text Sunday notifying me of the appointment. Not being on the list caused some delay and confusion but they eventual wrote my name by hand at the end of the list (I noticed there were  5 or 6 other hand written names). They let me go through. There was more delay at the office window but they sorted it out eventually and let me go get the shot. The moral here is: be sure to take that 13 digit number they attached to your registration. I stupidly forgot to bring it. If I had that there probably would not have been a delay. 

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, The Theory said:

My guess is this is a vaccination book for Thai people who have plan to travel to other countries. Countries that require Thai to be vaccinated for certain diseases. Students and workers fit in that category.  
 

No, it's for all people who want to travel including foreigners. It's the so-called Covid passport.