Covid 19 natural immunity vs vaccinations - an interesting article

[MeePeeMai]

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary/

 

This article makes sense to me, but I'm sure many here will call it "rubbish".

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"Attkisson has published stories attempting to link vaccines with autism, a position rejected by the scientific community.[11][12][50] Seth Mnookin, Professor of Science Writing at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described Attkisson as "one of the least responsible mainstream journalists covering vaccines and autism. Again and again, she's parroted anti-vaccine rhetoric long past the point that it's been decisively disproved."[10]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

"nuff said.

[i84teen]

Very interesting, hitting on some key trends and developments on a vaccine that needs to be renewed for each new variant. CDC estimates 106M people were infected with covid, pre/post vaccine is unknown, but it's becoming more clear natural immunity is vital in managing covid and not euphemistically referred to as variant dependent vaccines.

Some in the know, scientists, doctors, are now citing vaccines as likely promoting new covid variants.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

 

https://tinyurl.com/msn-238

Edited August 7, 2021 by i84teen
cant spel, anit know da ruls her

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Of course, we'll call it rubbish. Over 99% of the people dying from Covid in US hospitals aren't vaccinated. What is so difficult to understand about that?

99% of COVID deaths are now of unvaccinated people, experts say

With the delta variant running rampant in the US, COVID cases are on the rise in what is now a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," the CDC says.

https://www.cnet.com/health/99-of-covid-deaths-are-now-of-unvaccinated-people-experts-say/

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2 hours ago, i84teen said:

Very interesting, hitting on some key trends and developments on a vaccine that needs to be renewed for each new variant. CDC estimates 106M people were infected with covid, pre/post vaccine is unknown, but it's becoming more clear natural immunity is vital in managing covid and not euphemistically referred to as variant dependent vaccines.

Some in the know, scientists, doctors, are now citing vaccines as likely promoting new covid variants.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

 

https://tinyurl.com/msn-238

Really? Vaccines have to be renewed for each new variant? Do you understand what it means that 99% of all deaths from covid in the USA now come from the unvaccinated?

 

[Puccini]

5 hours ago, i84teen said:

...Some in the know, scientists, doctors, are now citing vaccines as likely promoting new covid variants.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

 

https://tinyurl.com/msn-238

Neither of the two web pages to which you linked have "variant" in it, as far as I can see.

 

 A heavy fine and/or a prison sentence awaits you for speeding fake news about Covid-19.

[rumak]

Look !  First of all....... how can anyone believe someone named ShAryl.   Even the name is weird.  Did anyone here know that she is a well known member of  Parents without Children !  Nutcases .

Probably out in the park handing out nuts to squirrels.  

And just before any of you covidcrazies accuse me of bias... my brother's uncle is a virologist and let me tell you,  there is nobody more virile than him !  

This article is completely false,  i know without even reading it.  I am sure it will be deleted ASAPA 

(as soon as papa arrives).    Stay safe.  Get the Jab.  The more the merrier.   Now let's all roll up our

sleaves and get to work rounding up those anti-bodies.

 

before i get banned............ this is written in Jest.    Jest sayin

[Kevin Taylor]

99% of deaths are unvaccinated ? Yeah I looked at the linked article I know thats the message its pushing. Another stat from CDC from 420 000 deaths in the first year in the states 99 .3% of deaths were people with one or more of the morbidities they talk about. Did not look at age only morbidities and the main one was obesity.  I guess my point is you think all that matters is vaccines. I think based on stats being healthy is more important. Don't worry I will get vaccinated as soon as I can but the fact is most healthy people don't have issues with covid.

[Kinnock]

The OP was right about one thing ..... the article is rubbish 

[MrJ2U]

Rubbish.

 

 

[MrJ2U]

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

"Attkisson has published stories attempting to link vaccines with autism, a position rejected by the scientific community.[11][12][50] Seth Mnookin, Professor of Science Writing at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described Attkisson as "one of the least responsible mainstream journalists covering vaccines and autism. Again and again, she's parroted anti-vaccine rhetoric long past the point that it's been decisively disproved."[10]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

"nuff said.

Thanks.

 

How do people follow these idiots?

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27 minutes ago, Kevin Taylor said:

99% of deaths are unvaccinated ? Yeah I looked at the linked article I know thats the message its pushing. Another stat from CDC from 420 000 deaths in the first year in the states 99 .3% of deaths were people with one or more of the morbidities they talk about. Did not look at age only morbidities and the main one was obesity.  I guess my point is you think all that matters is vaccines. I think based on stats being healthy is more important. Don't worry I will get vaccinated as soon as I can but the fact is most healthy people don't have issues with covid.

What don't you understand about 99 percent of those dying being unvaccinated? Are you claiming that vaccinated people are all slender and without comorbidities? Because if that's not what you're claiming, how is that those who are obese and have comorbidities are highly protected by the vaccine?

[Puccini]

The OP is rubbish.

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6 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Thanks.

 

How do people follow these idiots?

At least in the USA it has become very political. With followers of a certain ex-President far more likely not to get vaccinated. Of course, reality ultimately can be a great changer of minds. Red states in the USA are experiencing a surge in vaccinations as hospitalizations and deaths sharply rise.

[cdemundo]

5 hours ago, Kevin Taylor said:

but the fact is most healthy people don't have issues with covid.

Until they do.  Then they beg the doctors and nurses for a vaccine, and are told "too late".

[mtls2005]

On 8/6/2021 at 7:35 PM, MeePeeMai said:

but I'm sure many here will call it "rubbish".

 

We call it like we see it, and yes, it's RUBBISH. 

 

Author is a right-wing, conspiracy-oozing nut-job. Of course her latest book is titled "Slanted".

 

Amazed this type of lunacy is allowed here.

 

Not amazed there is an audience for this sort of thing. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by mtls2005

[mtls2005]

6 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Until they do.  Then they beg the doctors and nurses for a vaccine, and are told "too late".

 

Hundreds of these stories, quite sad obviously. It's one thing to make a choice for one's self, I respect that (except for the effects it may have on others of course), and choose to potentially contract a more severe case of the virus and pass away through ignorance. But those who try to influence others? Uh, uh. No respect for them at all.

 

Also interesting that anti-vaxxers don't want to be told what to do with their bodies, but oh my, they do love to tell women what to do with theirs.

 

Evidently you can teach stupid, and still not be able to fix it.

 

 

 

Just Google Anti Vaxxer dies from COVID

 

 

 

Florida Man...

 

Vocal anti-vaccine broadcaster dies from COVID-19 complications

Friends say Dick Farrel encouraged them to get the vaccine after he was infected

 

https://www.wptv.com/lifestyle/taste-and-see/vocal-anti-vaccine-broadcaster-dies-from-covid-19-complications

Edited August 8, 2021 by mtls2005

[Caldera]

If you want to acquire natural immunity and avoid getting vaccinated, then by all means, go for it. Natural selection will quite naturally rip through this crowd, and that's fine.

 

I got vaccinated in the meantime. Each to their own.

[impulse]

23 hours ago, placeholder said:

"Attkisson has published stories attempting to link vaccines with autism, a position rejected by the scientific community.[11][12][50] Seth Mnookin, Professor of Science Writing at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described Attkisson as "one of the least responsible mainstream journalists covering vaccines and autism. Again and again, she's parroted anti-vaccine rhetoric long past the point that it's been decisively disproved."[10]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

"nuff said.

Except that even one of the founders of wikipedia is telling people not to trust wikipedia.

 

Larry Sanger joined "Tucker Carlson Tonight," and said that because Wikipedia allows anonymous contribution, it has been taken advantage of by governments, corporations, criminal entities and other agents who "play the Wikipedia game" to create the desired "factual" result on a particular webpage.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/wikipedia-founder-embarrassed-politicization-site-encyclopedia

 

BTW, not a fan of Tucker, but I do respect Larry Sanger.

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by impulse

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49 minutes ago, impulse said:

Except that even one of the founders of wikipedia is telling people not to trust wikipedia.

 

Larry Sanger joined "Tucker Carlson Tonight," and said that because Wikipedia allows anonymous contribution, it has been taken advantage of by governments, corporations, criminal entities and other agents who "play the Wikipedia game" to create the desired "factual" result on a particular webpage.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/wikipedia-founder-embarrassed-politicization-site-encyclopedia

 

BTW, not a fan of Tucker, but I do respect Larry Sanger.

 

Wikipedia comes with footnotes. It can be fact checked. Are you seriously suggesting that Sheryl Atkisson doesn't have a track record supporting anti-vax nonsense?

[Chomper Higgot]

Natural Immunity to a disease you have never encountered is an oxymoron.

 

The author is a rightwing shill working for the rightwing Sinclair propaganda outlet.

 

She’s spreading dangerous misinformation.