Thailand reports daily record of 235 new coronavirus deaths

[webfact]

File photo Reuters
        
Thailand on Tuesday (August 10) reported 19,843 new COVID-19 cases and 235 additional deaths over the past 24 hours.



● 19,445 new infections

● 398 prison / prison infections
 
Tuesday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 795,951 with 6,588 deaths. 
(Total infections since April 1: 767,088)
 
The news comes as the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned on Monday against travel to Israel, France, Thailand, Iceland and several other countries because of a rising number of COVID-19 cases in those nations. 

 

The CDC has been adding to its highest "Level 4: Very High" COVID-19 level as cases spread around the globe. The United States added Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, along with other places, including Aruba and French Polynesia.

 

 

-- © Copyright  ASEAN NOW 2021-08-10

 

- Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you

- Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates

[Bkk Brian]

Total of 19,843 new infections, with 398 of those from prison and 19,445 in the community. 235 covid deaths recorded a new unwelcome high, although expected with the lag effect. 

 

Chart is again flatlining, how much of this is due to the decreased PCR testing and the now more readily available Rapid Antigen tests that can be purchased easily in a pharmacy so people no longer need to visit a hospital to get tested, only time will tell, however hospital, ICU and ventilator usage are at all times highs.

 

The above official new cases do not include new positive counts from Rapid Tests. Rapid tests positive cases was 548 bringing an unofficial total of 20,391

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 8th Aug) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases from daily official announcements. 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

[anchadian]

TUESDAY: There are 19,843 RT-PCR cases and 548 ATK cases. Out of 211,223 patients in care, 62,717 are in hospital, 75,214 in hospitel, and 64,537 are in home/community isolation. 5,450 are in a serious condition (+232) and 1,106 are on ventilators (+22) #Thailand #COVID19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424897918981476361

[anchadian]

#COVID19 Update on Tuesday: 19,843 new cases (398 from prisons) and 235 deaths. A new high of 22,806 released from care. Full details at 12:30pm.

 

7 Aug: 21,838 - 212 dead

8 Aug: 19,983 - 138 dead

9 Aug: 19,603 - 149 dead

10 Aug: 19,843 - 235 dead

#โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424895809372393487

[ThailandRyan]

235 deaths and numbers still in high 19k's.  Yesterday there were Ambulances running rampant here in Bangkok.  Of the 19,843 cases the tell all would be how many were actually tested, how many dead were found at home, and for Bangkok are the numbers trending down still.  How many are isolating at home after an ATK test is another number we need to see.  In another OP currently running, when you do the math, there is a 13.7% positivity rate in Bangkok alone.  Stay safe is all I can say.

Edited August 10, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[anchadian]

 

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 1,005 new cases 10 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (271), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (179), and Si Racha (262). 18,650 patients are now in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424891860967776258

[anchadian]

Southeast Asia saw a decline in new Covid-19 cases for the fourth successive day, while deaths were also lower on Monday, collated data showed. #COVID19 #Aseasn #TheNationThailand

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/international/40004440

[cyril sneer]

19,xxx again

 

what are the odds!

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, cyril sneer said:

19,xxx again

 

what are the odds!

If you don't have all the variables, you cannot calculate the odds. 

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

TUESDAY: There are 19,843 RT-PCR cases and 548 ATK cases. Out of 211,223 patients in care, 62,717 are in hospital, 75,214 in hospitel, and 64,537 are in home/community isolation. 5,450 are in a serious condition (+232) and 1,106 are on ventilators (+22) #Thailand #COVID19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424897918981476361

The red box I outlined on your graph shows the declining daily tests.

 

Test and you shall find. Or cut back on tests and.............less cases

[dinsdale]

These lower infection numbers are interesting. If this continues there are two possible answers for this as I see it. A peak has actually happened or figures are being brought down artificially. Up to you which one you chose to believe but I tend to lean to the latter. Deaths will unfortunately continue to rise. Those released as recovered are now above admissions and this again raises the point of what was less than two weeks ago and has pretty much always been 50% released in relation to admissions is now more than 10% above admissions. This at a time when serious condition patients and ICU patients continue to rise.

Edited August 10, 2021 by dinsdale

[anchadian]

Vaccination update for #Bangkok for yesterday:

 

95,231 people vaccinated in one day

Medical workers: +13,670

Underlying conditions: +11,644

Elderly: +5,841

 

6,808,007 doses administered so far

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424909101088215040

[anchadian]

Thailand’s ‘modern trade’ confidence at lowest point in 3 years due to pandemic

The Rector of the UTCC added that the economic cost of the lockdown measures may soar to about 700 billion baht.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-modern-trade-confidence-at-lowest-point-in-3-years-due-to-pandemic/

[anchadian]

A couple of tweets from last evening re: vaccinations:

 

Important information for those of you who registered at MedPark under the categories of aged 18-59 with underlying diseases and aged 18+ over 12 weeks pregnant, you must now provide a medical certificate. * Here is the link to register for Pfizer: https://medparkhospital.com/page/covid19-vaccine-expatriates

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1424737091062140937

 

Important information for those people who registered on the MFA website https://expatvac.consular.go.th I’m told that some people have already received appointments. However, when they turned up, they were offered AstraZeneca and not Pfizer. There was no mention of this in the email.

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1424743682675118081

 

[JonnyF]

I really hope this is a trend and that we've seen the peak. 

 

However, I think more likely is that people are doing ATK tests at home instead of going to a hospital and all the inconvenience and risk that entails, and hence many new infections from these home tests are not being included in the figures.

[bkkcanuck8]

25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

These lower infection numbers are interesting. If this continues there are two possible answers for this as I see it. A peak has actually happened or figures are being brought down artificially. Up to you which one you chose to believe but I tend to lean to the latter. Deaths will unfortunately continue to rise. Those released as recovered are now above admissions and this again raises the point of what was less than two weeks ago and has pretty much always been 50% released in relation to admissions is now more than 10% above admissions. 

The simple answer is that without evidence that they are changing the criteria of what makes up the numbers, IMHO we have to assume they are numbers based on data in good faith (criteria can differ, but fudging requires changing the criteria).   The numbers themselves may be incorrect but the trajectory is more reliable.   Now numbers based on real events instead of made up numbers are going to have deviations, and that is the case with spread of the virus since you have normal spread mixed with super spreaders, and pockets that go below the radar until it is found then it may make quick leaps.  On top of that the behaviour of people themselves change, some may wear PPE when they think they are at higher risk but relax their guard when they think they are not or become more confident...  It may represent a peak (hopefully it is beginning to peak for now at least), it may be a pause.   The current infections in most of the provinces (with the exception of the odd hot spot) is well within the range of being able to be controlled.   The rate of vaccination (at least one dose) is getting higher in hot spots like Bangkok -- so it is possible it could peak (though it will likely remain high for a while even if this is the case).   I have my personal reservations, but if the data shows it is peaking or the data is showing a plateau... I will accept the data until I see obvious signs of corruption.

 

Understand though when the government says Bangkok is vaccinated 70%, it is likely more like 60% since the population is often undercounted due to the fact that people who migrate to Bangkok for work or business - and return home on holidays etc... often don't move their registration to Bangkok so they would not be counted in Bangkok as living there -- even when they are.

Edited August 10, 2021 by bkkcanuck8

[Denim]

45 minutes ago, webfact said:

The news comes as the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned on Monday against travel to Israel, France, Thailand, Iceland and several other countries because of a rising number of COVID-19 cases in those nations. 

Ironic considering that Israels vaccination roll out was probably the most successful in the world.

One of the most popular vaccines used was Pfizer !

[Scrotobike]

35 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

If you don't have all the variables, you cannot calculate the odds. 

If you had ALL the variables you would be very rich.

[brewsterbudgen]

30 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

These lower infection numbers are interesting. If this continues there are two possible answers for this as I see it. A peak has actually happened or figures are being brought down artificially. Up to you which one you chose to believe but I tend to lean to the latter. Deaths will unfortunately continue to rise. Those released as recovered are now above admissions and this again raises the point of what was less than two weeks ago and has pretty much always been 50% released in relation to admissions is now more than 10% above admissions. This at a time when serious condition patients and ICU patients continue to rise.

Presumably the number of deaths will continue to rise over the next week or so as they reflect the high number of infections 2-3 weeks ago?  At least the infection rate has stayed relatively stable following the weekend numbers.  Some reason for hope.

[pkspeaker]

but under 20k woohoo!

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The simple answer is that without evidence that they are changing the criteria of what makes up the numbers, IMHO we have to assume they are numbers based on data in good faith (criteria can differ, but fudging requires changing the criteria).   The numbers themselves may be incorrect but the trajectory is more reliable.   Now numbers based on real events instead of made up numbers are going to have deviations, and that is the case with spread of the virus since you have normal spread mixed with super spreaders, and pockets that go below the radar until it is found then it may make quick leaps.  On top of that the behaviour of people themselves change, some may wear PPE when they think they are at higher risk but relax their guard when they think they are not or become more confident...  It may represent a peak (hopefully it is beginning to peak for now at least), it may be a pause.   The current infections in most of the provinces (with the exception of the odd hot spot) is well within the range of being able to be controlled.   The rate of vaccination (at least one dose) is getting higher in hot spots like Bangkok -- so it is possible it could peak (though it will likely remain high for a while even if this is the case).   I have my personal reservations, but if the data shows it is peaking or the data is showing a plateau... I will accept the data until I see obvious signs of corruption.

 

Understand though when the government says Bangkok is vaccinated 70%, it is likely more like 60% since the population is often undercounted due to the fact that people who migrate to Bangkok for work or business - and return home on holidays etc... often don't move their registration to Bangkok so they would not be counted in Bangkok as living there -- even when they are.

As I said believe what you will. You trust the government, I don't.

[Macrohistory]

7 minutes ago, Denim said:

Ironic considering that Israels vaccination roll out was probably the most successful in the world.

One of the most popular vaccines used was Pfizer !

 

All the countries that got an early start on vaccination will now face the problem of waning efficacy, especially when confronting Delta.  I believe Israel is now starting to offer vaccinated elderly people and those with preexisting health conditions booster shots.  The U.S. will probably soon do the same.  Meanwhile, the data continue to show that vaccinated people may well contract COVID but they will be much, much less likely to get seriously ill and die.  Any anti-vaxxer who wants to use this new CDC advice as a tool to bash vaccines has their head screwed on backwards.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

18 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

As I said believe what you will. You trust the government, I don't.

Who said I trust the government?  Massive conspiracies are not that easy to do -- even in countries like Thailand.  If it is one grand conspiracy to redefine the criteria, you will see the government getting egg on their face shortly.  There is a whole reporting chain so too many people can compare their region against what the central authorities are reporting - and that includes enough people who are not necessary loyal to the current government.

Edited August 10, 2021 by bkkcanuck8

[Denim]

8 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 I believe Israel is now starting to offer vaccinated elderly people and those with preexisting health conditions booster shots.  The U.S. will probably soon do the same.  

This is what worries those of us that  registered for Moderna in October.

 

By the time it gets here there will be a lot of unregistered high sos in Bangkok who will want to syphon some of the doses off.

[bkkcanuck8]

6 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 

All the countries that got an early start on vaccination will now face the problem of waning efficacy, especially when confronting Delta.  I believe Israel is now starting to offer vaccinated elderly people and those with preexisting health conditions booster shots.  The U.S. will probably soon do the same.  Meanwhile, the data continue to show that vaccinated people may well contract COVID but they will be much, much less likely to get seriously ill and die.  Any anti-vaxxer who wants to use this new CDC advice as a tool to bash vaccines has their head screwed on backwards.

 

"waning efficacy" - efficacy use is generally used to describe the ability of the vaccine to produce a result, I think you meant waning immunity.  Data currently out there is that the currently the use of the vaccine is still providing long term and continued protection.  Immuno-compromised (most often from drugs that suppress the immune system because of things like transplants, cancer treatment, etc.) may require additional shots to help them get or maintain.  If you receive a vaccine to tell your immune system to recognize a given virus, and you are also suppressing the immune system so it does not damage you by attacking what it should not attack, then logically they would never get the same level of protection as someone who is not, so the use of a 3rd shot to either continue boosting or maintaining is a reasonable investment (it is a rather small subset of the population percentage-wise).

[Henryford]

28 minutes ago, Denim said:

Ironic considering that Israels vaccination roll out was probably the most successful in the world.

One of the most popular vaccines used was Pfizer !

The deaths in Israel are about the same as Thailand @ 6,500 but with 15% of the population !!

[ThailandRyan]

59 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Vaccination update for #Bangkok for yesterday:

 

95,231 people vaccinated in one day

Medical workers: +13,670

Underlying conditions: +11,644

Elderly: +5,841

 

6,808,007 doses administered so far

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424909101088215040

Is the decline in numbers being vaccinated because of a lack of vaccines or what is the issue.

[Nojohndoe]

7 minutes ago, Henryford said:

The deaths in Israel are about the same as Thailand @ 6,500 but with 15% of the population !!

And there seems to be little mention in depth in general media about it. Given the extensive use and high percentage of people fully vaccinated with Pfizer  it might be a sensitive  topic?

[ikke1959]

Tuesday numbers always lower than the rest of the week... Wait for tomorrow and Thursday

[buick]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yesterday there were Ambulances running rampant here in Bangkok

i walk about an hour three times a day around sukhumvit btwn emporium and nana BTS.  i rarely see or hear an ambulance.  if one lives near a hospital, i can understand the 'rampant'.  i've also had to run errands to other parts of the city and not seeing them at these times either.