Popular Post webfact Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Picture: Bangkok Business News A leading restaurateur who met health minister and DPM Anutin Charnvirakul recently said they were told that once they were allowed to open again there was no going back to lockdown restrictions. This came from Bunyong Tansakul of Zen Corporation that runs Japanese restaurants all over Thailand. He said they were completely ready for reopening next week with staff vaccinated and money set aside for ATK testing. He said, however, this is a considerable cost running into millions of baht. Each test is 200-300 baht and the group have 3,000 staff. He said it may need to be adjusted so that costs were not too onerous. He called the following 60 days a "honeymoon period" for the industry before the hoped for return to further normality in the fourth quarter, reported Bangkok Business News. He said the rules about 50% of tables occupied in air-con restaurants and 75% in non-air were fine as customer traffic was not going to exceed this anyway. Founder of Penguin Eat Shabu Thanaphan Wongchinsri said they were prepared to do anything to open their doors again to customers for dine-in. It would help pay staff costs at the least. He said only some of the chain's restaurants would open and they would continue with promotions and their delivery business model. He spoke of a shortage of staff after many left without pay. Those staff that were left had been trained and premises had been thoroughly cleaned. The BBN report spoke of many protocols being in place for customers but did not mention the possibility that people will be checked for vaccine status at all, ASEAN NOW notes. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-08-28 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, webfact said: He said, however, this is a considerable cost running into millions of baht. Each test is 200-300 baht and the group have 3,000 staff. I'm sure there'll be "ways" around that problem... 1 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, webfact said: A leading restaurateur who met health minister and DPM Anutin Charnvirakul recently said they were told that once they were allowed to open again there was no going back to lockdown restrictions. If his lips were moving "Be very afraid" ..........................LOL 5 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 In other words there will be another lockdown, they will just call it something else like restricted opening. 12 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scrotobike Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 I think his words follow the new "paradigm" - the word is from the English language press briefing. The fully opened train has its full steam - no stopping it as now the HiSo are worried about their profits from their large companies. So now we change to "live with covid". I do not have an opinion on what the general is doing - like him I have completely lost the plot.... 4 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonclark Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 What we are seeing here with restaurants is the model that the government will adopt to schools reopening imo. All students (and parents??) will need to be double jabbed and take weekly antigen test with evidence provided to the school. The cost to be borne by the parents. Just my opinion..but I do think this will happen. I hope I am wrong. Imagine weekly antigen tests for a large Thai school. There will be more testing than learning. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, webfact said: Anutin Charnvirakul recently said they were told that once they were allowed to open again there was no going back to lockdown restrictions. And that was the smartest comment he could make with the title Health Minister? Sometimes you wish there were more words to in a colorful way describe a certain level of stupidity. Edited August 28, 2021 by Gottfrid 8 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gandtee Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: And that was the smartest comment he could make with the title Health Minister? Sometimes you wish there were more words to in a colorful way describe a certain level of stupidity. One is enough Twit! with an a. Edited August 28, 2021 by Gandtee spelling 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain Monday Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Excellent. Remove all economic restrictions lock downs don't work. 15 2 8 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lujanit Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 How many customers will restaurants get if they demand proof of double vaccination? Methinks a lot of places will ignore that requirement just to make some money. 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Monday said: Excellent. Remove all economic restrictions lock downs don't work. There is ample evidence to say they "work", depending on your definition of success. Lockdowns do not eradicate the virus, or even reduce the total number of infections. What they will do is alleviate the pressure on the health care system by spreading out the total number of infections over a longer period of time allowing doctors and nurses to cope. 25 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HaoleBoy Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, jonclark said: What we are seeing here with restaurants is the model that the government will adopt to schools reopening imo. All students (and parents??) will need to be double jabbed and take weekly antigen test with evidence provided to the school. The cost to be borne by the parents. Just my opinion..but I do think this will happen. I hope I am wrong. Imagine weekly antigen tests for a large Thai school. There will be more testing than learning. Yes, more testing. And, think of the profits made by the company that got the winning bid to import these ATK testing kits ... 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lujanit said: How many customers will restaurants get if they demand proof of double vaccination? Methinks a lot of places will ignore that requirement just to make some money. There is no way this will be applied in practice. The outcome will be business as usual, with the exception of beer continuing to be served in coke cans. Edited August 28, 2021 by Will B Good 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, lujanit said: Methinks a lot of places will ignore that requirement just to make some money. The police are enterprising. They will raid the restaurants and "fine" anyone caught without a vaccination certificate. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HaoleBoy Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 I hear the vaccination rate is at 90% in Bangkok now ... but what is the double vaccination rate? They don't state that much. Will the French be allowed to go into restaurants? Didn't they get the Johnson&Johnson vaccine (only 1 jab)? The rules will get sticky going forward ... 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, lujanit said: How many customers will restaurants get if they demand proof of double vaccination? Methinks a lot of places will ignore that requirement just to make some money. At there own peril. Thailand has a nasty habit of slapping establishments with 5 year bans! and fining the customers 40 k baht just like they do with bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, John Drake said: The police are enterprising. They will raid the restaurants and "fine" anyone caught without a vaccination certificate. Mmmm....there could be a fine balancing act between how much they can screw out of a successful restaurant versus one they drive into the ground with continual raids. Not easy being a cop on the rob. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 This is going to be a very interesting time. Were going to see which people have the appetite to take the chance to catch the Delta variant or other variants that will be circulating. Another consideration will be people with kids, elderly, and have had only Sinovac. I'm sure it'll be popular for many.people though. Definitely will help a little for the restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, madmen said: At there own peril. Thailand has a nasty habit of slapping establishments with 5 year bans! and fining the customers 40 k baht just like they do with bars. I have found the way round this is to check who owns the bar. We tend to frequent only those owned by policemen. Much more relaxing. 5 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, HaoleBoy said: Yes, more testing. And, think of the profits made by the company that got the winning bid to import these ATK testing kits ... Great timing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gandtee Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Will B Good said: There is no way this will be applied in practice. The outcome will be business as usual, with the exception of beer continuing to be served in coke cans. Coke cans? Grass! You've blown the gaff!???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gandtee said: Coke cans? Grass! You've blown the gaff!???? As regulars we have reached the dizzy heights of real glass wrapped in a serviette . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 58 minutes ago, webfact said: Anutin Charnvirakul recently said they were told that once they were allowed to open again there was no going back They open yet again spend loads more money have few customers and go bankrupt..what will those owners be going back to ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, johng said: They open yet again spend loads more money have few customers and go bankrupt..what will those owners be going back to ? They will have to cheat to survive. It will be business as usual. I have no doubt they will be bustling within a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 "One we open we never go back" Sounds like a punchline from a bigoted asian comedy made in america circa 1970. Or a show like the hangover part 4. I pray it hasn't been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Will B Good said: There is ample evidence to say they "work", depending on your definition of success. Lockdowns do not eradicate the virus, or even reduce the total number of infections. What they will do is alleviate the pressure on the health care system by spreading out the total number of infections over a longer period of time allowing doctors and nurses to cope. Not disagreeing with your point about health care systems but not sure I agree with your 'Lockdowns do not eradicate the virus, or even reduce the total number of infections.' There has been plenty of models that have shown that without lockdown, Covid deaths would have been much higher than the current 4.5 million (anything up to 40 million in fact). https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/09/872441984/modelers-suggest-pandemic-lockdowns-saved-millions-from-dying-of-covid-19 https://www.businessinsider.com/covid19-model-predicts-40-million-people-could-die-without-interventions-2020-3 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, lujanit said: How many customers will restaurants get if they demand proof of double vaccination? Methinks a lot of places will ignore that requirement just to make some money. Open under the regulations that staff must be regularly tested with the business absorbing the cost of the tests at 200-300 THB a pop, as well as to demand the business turn away all but the fully vaccinated? These business's operating costs will be higher than their revenues. It's one thing to be allowed to open. Being allow to make sufficient revenues to pay operation costs, no less make a profit, is an entirely different can of worms given the restriction placed on opening a business. BTW, these businesses will increase their prices to cover their costs resulting in prices that a significant number of consumers will refuse to pay, i.e., the move will stoke inflation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said: Not disagreeing with your point about health care systems but not sure I agree with your 'Lockdowns do not eradicate the virus, or even reduce the total number of infections.' There has been plenty of models that have shown that without lockdown, Covid deaths would have been much higher than the current 4.5 million (anything up to 40 million in fact). https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/09/872441984/modelers-suggest-pandemic-lockdowns-saved-millions-from-dying-of-covid-19 https://www.businessinsider.com/covid19-model-predicts-40-million-people-could-die-without-interventions-2020-3 Agreed. Point taken. I was trying to avoid whoever I was responding to, from taking umbrage and shooting off on a tangent with other arguments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, John Drake said: The police are enterprising. They will raid the restaurants and "fine" anyone caught without a vaccination certificate. under the threat of a good bagging if they don't pay up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 the tests should be government funded 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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