Popular Post Jonathan Fairfield Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha urged the public and private sectors and all Thais today (Saturday) to apply the 10-point “Smart Control and Living with COVID-19” concept, so the country can overcome the coronavirus crisis. In his Facebook post, the prime minister said that it is recognised globally that COVID-19 is constantly mutating and spreading rapidly and easily. So, the realistic objective is not to get rid of the disease, at huge social and economic cost, but to live with the disease “safely and in a balanced way,” said the prime minister, as he explained the concept, which is designed to control the contagion while enabling people to live their lives safely. He said that some aspects of the concept have already been implemented, resulting in a reduction in daily infections, while the remaining points are to be implemented from of September 1st. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thais-urged-to-adopt-smart-control-and-living-with-covid-19-concept/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-08-28 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: So, the realistic objective is not to get rid of the disease, at huge social and economic cost, but to live with the disease “ He's a bloody genius! Why haven't anyone thought about this before? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain Monday Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Bravo, the virus is never going away learn to live with it or shut down forever. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I defy anyone to recall more than three of the ten points. The UK public can only just cope with natty three word slogans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 greeks have been told to wear 2 masks to overcome delta 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Does everyone really need this jumped up arrogant Despot to tell them how to live safely ? Now he's screwed up the country he's telling people they now have to live with it ! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Based on those 10 points, why aren’t the population of Phuket allowed to live normally? It seems the criteria is met and yet even schools are closed because the authorities are still paranoid about case numbers. Probably because of the misguided idea that tourists give a toss about Covid numbers….they don’t, they care about restrictions after they arrive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorB Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Will B Good said: I defy anyone to recall more than three of the ten points. The UK public can only just cope with natty three word slogans. For those non-Brits baffled by this post - UK covid presentations are accompanied by the mantra "hands, face, space" to remind one of washing, masks and social distancing. When travelling on trains etc the mantra is "see it, say it, sorted" to encourage the reporting of anything unusual and possibly terrorist related. These are the 2 most common examples but the relentless drive to treat the British public as 7 year olds is not limited to these examples. A 10 point plan would be regarded by the UK authorities as way beyond the intellectual capacity of its people. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taboo2 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 4:13 PM, inThailand said: Thailand strives to elevate tourism industry. By degrading, scamming and lying to tourists? Sounds like a typical plan here. True... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anton9 Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Constant fearmongering, 24/7 showing covid stats on tv and telling people to act like there is a zombie apocalypse but now you want them to learn how to live with the virus. Good luck with that 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton9 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, wensiensheng said: Based on those 10 points, why aren’t the population of Phuket allowed to live normally? It seems the criteria is met and yet even schools are closed because the authorities are still paranoid about case numbers. Probably because of the misguided idea that tourists give a toss about Covid numbers….they don’t, they care about restrictions after they arrive. Exactly, people stll paranoid about covid cases are not travelling or going on holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: greeks have been told to wear 2 masks to overcome delta Well, before I left Bangkok for a break a few months ago, Thai were already wearing two masks without being told by anyone....some of them even wore three ...and that was before the Delta found its way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: greeks have been told to wear 2 masks to overcome delta Thais have been told the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Cipher Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Anton9 said: Constant fearmongering, 24/7 showing covid stats on tv and telling people to act like there is a zombie apocalypse but now you want them to learn how to live with the virus. Good luck with that They have to start somewhere. If this pandemic has taught us anything, it's that the vast majority of people respond to the emotional content of messages and to herding behavior, without needing to understand the nuance of the information underpinning the message. Yeah, I agree it's going to be difficult to walk back the hysteria, but it's encouraging to at least see government institutions attempting to move in this direction. Ultimately, if we are going to be able move forward with an acceptance of Covid (and I do think we will get there), there needs to be a buy-in from a very substantial portion of the population. Every voice shifting the narrative away from fear helps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stygge Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 Strange. When Sweden said no to hysteria and total lockdown they were basically called irresponsible murderers. A year later and more and more countries are adopting the same view. Without beeing irresponsible murderers, of course. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Does everyone really need this jumped up arrogant Despot to tell them how to live safely ? Now he's screwed up the country he's telling people they now have to live with it ! So what's your answer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Translation: Concerning all our talk and actions indicating that covid was an existential threat to civivlization, nevermind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrotobike Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Caldera said: Thais have been told the same. Ah that explains the plastic bags from Joe His thinking 10 plastic bags is better than 2 masks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Stygge said: Strange. When Sweden said no to hysteria and total lockdown they were basically called irresponsible murderers. A year later and more and more countries are adopting the same view. Without beeing irresponsible murderers, of course. you left out the wide deployment of vaccines in your post and the main reason other sensible countries can now relax containment measures, it is widely understood (including government) that Sweden messed up big time and could have done better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Thailand dropped the ball and messed up big time were they should have done better - vaccines and they are still doing it with the persistant purchase and use of sinovac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, smedly said: you left out the wide deployment of vaccines in your post and the main reason other sensible countries can now relax containment measures, it is widely understood (including government) that Sweden messed up big time and could have done better You may be able to find the odd government official last year saying they messed up (every country has their share of bedwetters after all the politicians need to pander to), but I doubt you will find any that still claim that today. I think the Swedes are quite proud of how they dealt with this with relative calm whilst the rest of the world was panicking and going bonkers. I don't think their kids even missed a day of school so they will be way ahead in their education compared to the rest of the developed world. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Quote So, the realistic objective is not to get rid of the disease, at huge social and economic cost, but to live with the disease “safely and in a balanced way,” said the prime minister, as he explained the concept, which is designed to control the contagion while enabling people to live their lives safely. So basically what he said it to plan to live under an emergency decree in a New Normal dystopia come true - forever - by willingly forfeiting individual freedoms of the right of movement, assembly, personal choice, while accepting government's over-reach in exchange for the illusion that the State will keep you safe. All you need to do is to submit and do as you are told. It doesn't sound much different from a historical perspective than other utopian -isms that formed during the 19th and 20th centuries. This, like those, will strive to repress, it not extinguish, the human spirit as the levers of powers are handed over to a class of wealthy psychopaths who view humanity as naught more than livestock. Like the other -isms, I expect this to end in untold human suffering purposefully directed at the general public. The elite will live by different rules. They already are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, James105 said: You may be able to find the odd government official last year saying they messed up (every country has their share of bedwetters after all the politicians need to pander to), but I doubt you will find any that still claim that today. I think the Swedes are quite proud of how they dealt with this with relative calm whilst the rest of the world was panicking and going bonkers. I don't think their kids even missed a day of school so they will be way ahead in their education compared to the rest of the developed world. it cost lives and was irresponsible - that is a fact just because nobody talks about it now doesn't mean it didn't happen Swedish Prime Minister Says Country Underestimated Coronavirus (businessinsider.com) Edited August 29, 2021 by smedly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 10 hours ago, The Cipher said: They have to start somewhere. If this pandemic has taught us anything, it's that the vast majority of people respond to the emotional content of messages and to herding behavior, without needing to understand the nuance of the information underpinning the message. Yeah, I agree it's going to be difficult to walk back the hysteria, but it's encouraging to at least see government institutions attempting to move in this direction. Ultimately, if we are going to be able move forward with an acceptance of Covid (and I do think we will get there), there needs to be a buy-in from a very substantial portion of the population. Every voice shifting the narrative away from fear helps. The narrative he advanced was that the average pleb needs to fully submit to the will and the whims of the "expert" leadership of the State. The State, the Thai government in this case, then promises to keep the plebeian classes "safe" and to quench their fears under the government's iron-fist control of the "forever emergency." Whole societies, globally, are being moved toward the New Normal form of government controlled communalism where individual liberties will be shredded in the name of "protecting" the community from "invisible enemies" as well as wayward members of society who refuse to submit. "Get the shot! Take the test! Wear the mask! Stay at home. Shun friends and family. Obey the "experts. Submit!" Neither Huxley or Orwell could have conceived a better dystopian narrative imho. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, ArcticFox said: The narrative he advanced was that the average pleb needs to fully submit to the will and the whims of the "expert" leadership of the State. The State, the Thai government in this case, then promises to keep the plebeian classes "safe" and to quench their fears under the government's iron-fist control of the "forever emergency." Whole societies, globally, are being moved toward the New Normal form of government controlled communalism where individual liberties will be shredded in the name of "protecting" the community from "invisible enemies" as well as wayward members of society who refuse to submit. "Get the shot! Take the test! Wear the mask! Stay at home. Shun friends and family. Obey the "experts. Submit!" Neither Huxley or Orwell could have conceived a better dystopian narrative imho. And here's me thinking governments were just trying their best to stop us dying from a previously unknown virus. How naive can you get? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, ArcticFox said: The narrative he advanced was that the average pleb needs to fully submit to the will and the whims of the "expert" leadership of the State. The State, the Thai government in this case, then promises to keep the plebeian classes "safe" and to quench their fears under the government's iron-fist control of the "forever emergency." Whole societies, globally, are being moved toward the New Normal form of government controlled communalism where individual liberties will be shredded in the name of "protecting" the community from "invisible enemies" as well as wayward members of society who refuse to submit. "Get the shot! Take the test! Wear the mask! Stay at home. Shun friends and family. Obey the "experts. Submit!" Neither Huxley or Orwell could have conceived a better dystopian narrative imho. Well written, but disturbing, as it really hits the nail on the head. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 you'll never get the thais to live with the disease. they have a total irrational fear of it and also they will be in for a massive shock when they find out that even be vaccinated you can still catch it and spread it. cuz im sure most thais think once they've had the vaccine thats it they'll never catch it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 17 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: He's a bloody genius! Why haven't anyone thought about this before? Always do the right thing, after exhausting all other possibilities. To be fair, most other Governments haven't got there yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart12 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 If you play their game you’ll never have freedom again as they’ll just keep moving the goal posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChomDo Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 All these points and details without any clear information on the requirements of Green and Yellow cards. We still don't know who can go where on Sep 1. Looks like the only way to be sure is when people start trying to get into malls and parks on Wed. Hard to understand what's the secret – why not just let the public know how it's going to be! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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