4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And there was me thinking that standing on your principles doesn't keep you in a job, nor does it feed your family, pay your mortgage or pay your bills. Especially at this time when companies are laying off or putting staff on a furlough.

 

Now if you were able and willing to support him and his family financially until he could get a similar or better job, then principles are fine. However if the new job would require that he be vaccinated then he is screwed yet again. 

 

 

Not really. Common sense 101. Think about real life rather than "principles" as he has done.

You didn't read his reply to me did you.

6 hours ago, Pushbiker said:

Got my 1st Pfizer jab yesterday 2pm. Collapsed at 11pm with cerebral cramps + vomiting -> emergency room. Age 37 height 185 weight 75 sportsman.

I had my first Pfizer jab on Friday morning. The only problem was a soreness around the jab site. Age 77, height 185, weight 116, retired and lazy.

5 hours ago, BangkokBaksida said:

There would be even more articles and videos recommending that people not get vaccinated, but they get censored.  And that's a big part of my argument:  We should be allowed to hear both sides of the argument because when most people hear only one side, like you do, then they come to the desired, but wrong, conclusion.  

How do you know it is the wrong conclusion? 

 

I have been reading up on this and other websites and came to the conclusion 3 months ago that I would like to be vaccinated. On 10tyh September I got my first Pfizer jab and go ack on the 4th October for my second.

 

TBH I get bored with the anti vaccers crying doom and gloom. I am 77 and I have had a great life. If vaccination keeps me alive for a few years longer, then those are bonus years.

On 9/11/2021 at 8:59 AM, ezzra said:

To put it bluntly so you can understand, If you have death wish, come to Thailand and don't get vaccinated, your wish will likely to come true sooner than you think, to put it bluntly...

I for one hope you cant live here. Get vaccinated unless you have a serious medical reason not too. 

On 9/11/2021 at 8:59 AM, ezzra said:

To put it bluntly so you can understand, If you have death wish, come to Thailand and don't get vaccinated, your wish will likely to come true sooner than you think, to put it bluntly...

Do you know something we don't  ? 

99% of survival .I will take the chance .

On 9/11/2021 at 8:59 AM, ezzra said:

To put it bluntly so you can understand, If you have death wish, come to Thailand and don't get vaccinated, your wish will likely to come true sooner than you think, to put it bluntly...

Do you know something we don't?

With 99% of survival rate I will take my chance. 

37 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

You didn't read his reply to me did you.

Yes

 

36 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

You didn't read his reply to me did you.

And yes again.

25 minutes ago, billd766 said:

How do you know it is the wrong conclusion? 

 

I have been reading up on this and other websites and came to the conclusion 3 months ago that I would like to be vaccinated. On 10tyh September I got my first Pfizer jab and go ack on the 4th October for my second.

 

TBH I get bored with the anti vaccers crying doom and gloom. I am 77 and I have had a great life. If vaccination keeps me alive for a few years longer, then those are bonus years.

I get fed up with people glorifying the jab.

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I know a place that sells tinfoil hats in your size.

I know places for silly old goats.....euh sheep. Hope you live as long as you can.

3 minutes ago, papa al said:

Wow, you really know how to put somebody in their place.

Bravo.

Please stay out of it papa.

 

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To be frank, I'll eat lead bullets before I take the vaccine. 

Do you have a death wish?

21 minutes ago, ericbj said:

"Nearly 80 percent of eligible Israelis ages 12 and up have received their COVID injection.  Mass media outlets gloated over Israel for having “one of the swiftest vaccine rollouts in the world,” according to the Associated Press. And yet the Israel COVID picture looks increasingly grim.
"New data from Oxford University reveals that Israel has the highest number of COVID-19 cases per capita."
A snippet of news received today.
And there is plenty more along these lines; if you consult the experts in virology, public health, etc whose voices have been silenced in the mass-media and whose statements have been met not by counter-arguments but by ad hominem attacks.
For example, one has until midnight U.S. Eastern Time to listen, free of charge, to some interviews here:
https://vsecretscc.com/episode-1-replay

And I posted this link to Facebook today (not yet taken down):
https://youtu.be/Bkcp04z8pE4

I understand that this will cause many here to vomit.
But vomiting can be cathartic.

Thanks for the links.

I think vaxxers have a death wish. As I wrote in other threads; when opting for a new car, would you go for a car that has the doubtful reputation of exploding during driving if even 1 in a million cases? 

10 hours ago, James105 said:

how do you plan to identify those that are vaxxed vs unvaxxed

You'll need to show proof of vaccine to dine at most restaurants in Bangkok beginning October 1st.

 

That will also be rolled out to the provinces opening including Hua Hin.

 

Basically its get vaccinated or learn how to cook.

On 9/11/2021 at 4:53 AM, AmericanMusashi said:

Hello,

 

I'm a retired American under the age of 50 and wondering if it would be possible to live long term in Thailand without the vaccine?

 

To be frank, I'll eat lead bullets before I take the vaccine. 

 

Will I be able to get visa's and stay in Thailand without it?

 

I don't care if I can't work or go to restaurants.

 

I just want to be able to live and be left alone and have my visas be good.

 

Is it possible? 

No one knows what the future holds. In Thailand many people and evidently most TV members still believe and trust the new gods of vaccination...

In other countries around the world, some of which have high rate of vaccinating and still increasing numbers of hospitalised vaxed patients, people start realising vax is not the answer and not at all as was promised as far as high % protection from getting infected, higher % protection of being hospitalised in hard condition and 100% protection from death due to Covid. In Australia and in Europe many go out to the streets to protest against the vaccination and vax passports. I hope many in Thailand will come to the same conclusion

1 hour ago, papa al said:

Wow, you really know how to put somebody in their place.

Bravo.

Just a lucky guess on my part.

Another new bottle for the stale old "to vax or not to vax" vine...actually beyond sale date vinegar by now. Sadly, this forum has begun to reek of this kind of odor of late.

21 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

No one knows what the future holds. In Thailand many people and evidently most TV members still believe and trust the new gods of vaccination...

In other countries around the world, some of which have high rate of vaccinating and still increasing numbers of hospitalised vaxed patients, people start realising vax is not the answer and not at all as was promised as far as high % protection from getting infected, higher % protection of being hospitalised in hard condition and 100% protection from death due to Covid. In Australia and in Europe many go out to the streets to protest against the vaccination and vax passports. I hope many in Thailand will come to the same conclusion

You need to get vaccinated or go home.

7 hours ago, Trujillo said:

I'm surprised that this post was allowed to stand. At best, it's misinformation, and at worst, a threat. 

 

The OP is under 50: 

 

According to the CDC, this fellow most likely has -- IF he even contracts the illness -- a 99.7% survival rate. "Death wish" indeed...

 

Posts that keep the fear porn alive and kicking are part of the reason we are still living like lab rats. 

Based on faulty data, as they admit. Many deaths and cases were not reported or counted properly. Refer to Florida's recent changes.

2 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

You need to get vaccinated or go home.

I think LukKreung means as much as that he/she is a Thai native.

8 hours ago, Trujillo said:

I'm surprised that this post was allowed to stand. At best, it's misinformation, and at worst, a threat.

Posts that keep the fear porn alive and kicking are part of the reason we are still living like lab rats. 

Like a fast food outlet that proposes "new/improved" menu every week, the forum needs "fresh meat" to feed the hungry animals. Unfortunately the only meat left in the freezer is from the compartment labeled "to vax or not to vax" - inside is mostly rotting carcass and bones.

So chew on, children. Sad.

1 hour ago, ericbj said:

"Nearly 80 percent of eligible Israelis ages 12 and up have received their COVID injection.  Mass media outlets gloated over Israel for having “one of the swiftest vaccine rollouts in the world,” according to the Associated Press. And yet the Israel COVID picture looks increasingly grim.
"New data from Oxford University reveals that Israel has the highest number of COVID-19 cases per capita."
A snippet of news received today.
And there is plenty more along these lines; if you consult the experts in virology, public health, etc whose voices have been silenced in the mass-media and whose statements have been met not by counter-arguments but by ad hominem attacks.
For example, one has until midnight U.S. Eastern Time to listen, free of charge, to some interviews here:
https://vsecretscc.com/episode-1-replay

And I posted this link to Facebook today (not yet taken down):
https://youtu.be/Bkcp04z8pE4

I understand that this will cause many here to vomit.
But vomiting can be cathartic.

What a load of Hogwash, but then look at your links.

 

Garbage fed to you on the Internet, then you come in here  and (to use your terminology) ‘vomit’ it on is.

Another American who is scared of needles. Another person who only thinks of them self.

  The world is full of self centered people.  I have a few less relatives and friends who 

thought like this poster and they are all dead.  The vaccine man not stop you from getting

infected, but if it stops you from dying, is it not worth getting?  Maybe growing up is very

difficult for some of us, but that is what is required for this present World situation.

   When I hear of another unvaccinated person who has caught COVID and has died, I have no sympathy 

except I do feel sad that their family and friends have to suffer from them being so ignorant or stupid.

   There are people who are desperate to get themselves vaccinated,  then we hear from some selfish

person who claims that they do not need to get vaccinated. Pathetic.

Geezer

  

I doubt very much that it is possible for you to live anywhere without being vaccinated, but it is very probable for you to die wherever you decide to stay. 

I guess its a waste of time but these conspiracy theorists really need to see a doctor.

 

I'm sure there are thousands more but over the years I've seen stories that are simply rubbish and its just so difficult to understand how any rational person could even consider believing them. Perhaps the most common:

...

Coronavirus is all part of the 'Great Reset' - designed to put us mere mortals back in our place.

(Seems to fall apart on many fronts including the fact that it requires nations that are sworn enemies to conspire)

 

Coronavirus is spread through the 5g network.

 

Covid 19 vaccines kill thousands.

 

The vaccines include a microchip that tracks you.

 

Jeez, there was even a fella on UK TV that said if he got Covid he would absolutely not go to hospital because he had proof that the doctors and nurses were killing patients.  Then there was a story circulating on social media with a convincingly realistic news-site post stating that the first participant in the Oxford/AZ vaccine trials had died - until that is, she appeared on national TV alive and kicking.

 

What is wrong with these people - do we have a vaccine against stupidity yet? Mind you, they'd refuse to take it.

 

10 hours ago, Pushbiker said:

Got my 1st Pfizer jab yesterday 2pm. Collapsed at 11pm with cerebral cramps + vomiting -> emergency room. Age 37 height 185 weight 75 sportsman.

 

9 hours ago, thailandbeachisland said:

 

not even a day without vaccinidiots in ICU, I also hope that they will soon all be gone !

 

 

I got my second jab of Pfizer Friday morning. Had a nice dinner with family at 7PM then drank two glasses of red wine and had a great nights sleep.  Age 74, height 190, weight 76, dislike sports. 

Last Friday In watched a news report from a Covid 19 ventilator ward in the UK.  Some of the staff there were working 14 hour shifts trying to keep their patients alive. I believe there were 15 patients on the ward and the doctor got his chart and showed the reporter - all but one were unvaccinated.

 

A made up report? Part of the 'Great Reset'?

 

I'd love the chance to put you in a room with some of these brave doctors and nurses, people that risk their lives everyday trying to keep the rest of us alive. Some of them have sadly lost their own lives...

2 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

You need to get vaccinated or go home.

I'm home (Thailand) and I have no desire to get vaxed. If it bothers you, you can go home. 

A number of Off topic, troll comment, petty bickering and unattributed posts along with responses to them have been removed.

On 9/11/2021 at 8:53 AM, AmericanMusashi said:

would be possible to live long term in Thailand without the vaccine?

.

 

To answer your question, OP, yes, it is possible.

1 hour ago, LukKrueng said:

I'm home (Thailand) and I have no desire to get vaxed. If it bothers you, you can go home. 

Just hide under your bed.

10 hours ago, hugocnx said:

Thanks for the links.

I think vaxxers have a death wish. As I wrote in other threads; when opting for a new car, would you go for a car that has the doubtful reputation of exploding during driving if even 1 in a million cases? 

1 in 1,000,000 cases…do you hear yourself??