webfact Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 By Praphorn Praphornkul BANGKOK (NNT) - Parliament spent the final day of its latest session discussing three draft laws to do with the development of education and related innovations, with all agreeing the focus should be on bettering the Thai education system. The first of three bills was on promoting the utilization of research and innovation, having already passed its second and third readings. The objective of the legislation is to see research and innovation put to beneficial use and to support investment in state agencies conducting research pertinent to the nation’s economy. The second bill was the national education act, which was outlined by Minister of Education Trinuch Thienthong. She stated that the thrust of the bill is to help students and teachers at all stages to achieve levels of expertise, and be able to apply their lessons to daily life. The act would modify teaching methodologies to better suit students and implement a proactive teaching approach focused on discourse. The management of schools would also be adapted to allow teachers to focus on classroom duties. Most present in Parliament agreed with the draft’s intent of enhancing important aspects of Thai education. The final bill was a learning promotion act to improve access to learning for all, providing opportunities for people to better their skills and areas of expertise. It includes a section on providing schooling to school-age individuals without primary schooling. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-09-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Most Encouraging, at last some good action on Education Improvement. Now get something done here in Parliament about Poverty……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Few have been taught to any purpose who have not been their own teachers. The key is to instill a desire to learn (or the necessity to learn) for your own future benefit. Politicians, role models and parents have the responsibility to instill this desire. All the teaching methodologies in the world won't help one iota without the desire to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygooner Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 This is said every year, but no real positive outcomes ever materialise. Just words. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, garygooner said: This is said every year, but no real positive outcomes ever materialise. Just words. They will never learn...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Bla, Bla, Bla, and then they all had the massive free lunch and went home kidding themselves they had done something useful ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) " Final day of Parliament" wow have they all been jailed or has the rapture started? Edited September 18, 2021 by metisdead Undersized font reset to normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I am teacher I tell you, you listen, you copy and be quiet.. if not I hit you ...You don't ask questions, you have to fear me and everyone in school. Igf you do that you will pass with good grades although you never learned anything.. Now we going to change this????how??? Don Quichote....can't change a culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callmeishmael Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Most government schools have 35 - 45 students per class. With that many students in a classroom at one time even the best teachers will struggle to have any meaningful discourse with their students. This is the elephant in the room that all of these education reform proposals never discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Did they do it all online as they are forcing the kids to do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, webfact said: Parliament spent the final day of its latest session discussing three draft laws to do with the development of education and related innovations, with all agreeing the focus should be on bettering the Thai education system What education system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 7 hours ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said: Most Encouraging, at last some good action on Education Improvement. Simply, the same old surface rhetoric splattered. Don't expect anything positive or progressive to come by it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 How can the politicians be educated.? They only listen to their own rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 For as long as I've been living here, they've come out with similar plans/incentives every year bar none, yet I haven't noticed one iota of an improvement in any students or schools. Is it just for show? , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, djayz said: For as long as I've been living here, they've come out with similar plans/incentives every year bar none, yet I haven't noticed one iota of an improvement in any students or schools. Is it just for show? , I pretend I am clever and am teaching you and you pretend you are learning. OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, greeneking said: I pretend I am clever and am teaching you and you pretend you are learning. OK? More and more of the students now know that their education here isn't worth the paper the degrees are printed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I'm not sure if this statement is correct but I believe that not a single person who has ruled the country via the monarchy or being premier has been educated in Thailand? Which goes to show the lack of confidence in the education system. Rethink:- current PM cannot have possibly attended anything but a Thai school. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandyson Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, djayz said: For as long as I've been living here, they've come out with similar plans/incentives every year bar none, yet I haven't noticed one iota of an improvement in any students or schools. Is it just for show? , Oh but something almost did improve I think around the early noughties. The education minister at the time was going to Japan on fact finding missions 4 or 5 times a year to see how he could improve the Thai education system. He was even taking his family to help and assist him (at the tax payers expense of course), such was his determination to improving the education here. I wonder what became of him. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said: I'm not sure if this statement is correct but I believe that not a single person who has ruled the country via the monarchy or being premier has been educated in Thailand? Which goes to show the lack of confidence in the education system. Rethink:- current PM cannot have possibly attended anything but a Thai school. Lol Not to be too pedantic, but you'll be required to perform some basic research and historical factual background before stating as such - regarding your first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 10 hours ago, webfact said: The management of schools would also be adapted to allow teachers to focus on classroom duties. If teacher never go in classroom! Many only stamp in and go back to do what ever they want, afternoon stamp out from school never even visited in classroom or see any student! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, zzaa09 said: Not to be too pedantic, but you'll be required to perform some basic research and historical factual background before stating as such - regarding your first sentence. That's why I said,"I'm not sure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I look forwards ( with excitement) at the new parade ground so the kids can march up and down better, sing the anthem better and hopefully learn to kowtow to their fullest. Dont forget to dress us up as nurses and boyscouts also, very important for their "identification " for later roles in life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 8 hours ago, bobandyson said: Oh but something almost did improve I think around the early noughties. The education minister at the time was going to Japan on fact finding missions 4 or 5 times a year to see how he could improve the Thai education system. He was even taking his family to help and assist him (at the tax payers expense of course), such was his determination to improving the education here. I wonder what became of him. ???? Due to his basic lack of geography he ended up in Siberia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 16 hours ago, Will B Good said: Few have been taught to any purpose who have not been their own teachers. The key is to instill a desire to learn (or the necessity to learn) for your own future benefit. Politicians, role models and parents have the responsibility to instill this desire. All the teaching methodologies in the world won't help one iota without the desire to learn. ......and the encouragement to instill critical, question and challenging thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 8 hours ago, 2 is 1 said: If teacher never go in classroom! Many only stamp in and go back to do what ever they want, afternoon stamp out from school never even visited in classroom or see any student! "Urban myth", not true! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 yes, zz & others: was naive here. only superficially interested in thai politics. more an “ action” observer guy……now understand this same rhetoric is trotted out every year…..with zero change in the schools……. so similarly no real expectations of govt land sales any time soon to relieve Poverty here either…..right, “move along, nothing to see here”…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: "Urban myth", not true! And you have visited how many government school!? I have visited over 30 (secondary). When wife was still teacher i spend lot of time in her school and see the real system! Many male teacher only visit school to sign in. Happens every where! Wife ex is also teacher and he hang out in hes land when has had school day , he really is not in school to teach kids! Edited September 19, 2021 by 2 is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 hours ago, 2 is 1 said: And you have visited how many government school!? I have visited over 30 (secondary). When wife was still teacher i spend lot of time in her school and see the real system! Many male teacher only visit school to sign in. Happens every where! Wife ex is also teacher and he hang out in hes land when has had school day , he really is not in school to teach kids! I am a teacher. The education system in Thailand is beset by many weaknesses, chief amongst which is overcentralised control of teachers, the curriculum and working hours by a beaurocracy who themselves have often no experience of teaching. Teachers are severely constrained in what they can teach, and how they can teach it. That is where the fundemental problem lies, coupled with a weakness in initial and in service training. With those problems there is little point in inventing new ones, or even inflating a (possibly false) confusion from outside casual observation to the status of a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: I look forwards ( with excitement) at the new parade ground so the kids can march up and down better, sing the anthem better and hopefully learn to kowtow to their fullest. Dont forget to dress us up as nurses and boyscouts also, very important for their "identification " for later roles in life. It's all in the best interest and well being of the children. Of course it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Dont forget to dress us up as nurses and boyscouts also, very important for their "identification " for later roles in life. I don't personally have a problem with boy scouting, although I would prefer much less emphasis on foot drill. The sight of our school registrar's bandy legs in khaki shorts is quite amusing, and some of the younger lady teachers look good in uniform. I always enjoy it when they queue up to have their berets shaped before the big parade As for the red cross cadet thing for the girls, gender stereotyping maybe, but nothing wrong with teaching first aid skills. Edited September 19, 2021 by herfiehandbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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