13 hours ago, smedly said:

They have to do something and fast, can't keep cramming hundreds of people into treetown every night which is filled to capacity every night, it really is ridiculous

This raises the question, is Treetown owned by a BiB, directly or by a proxy?

23 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Not only Pattaya, but the whole country businesses should up arms

do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists

8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This raises the question, is Treetown owned by a BiB, directly or by a proxy?

no idea but I suspect you are probably right 

 

I have been reluctant to mention treetown directly and only hinted in the past but now I am sick to the back teeth of what is going on especially since the place has no room and is now packed every night, all it will take is a couple of hundred new arrivals in Pattaya and this just becomes ridiclulous, there is literally no where else for people to go at night in Pattaya for a beer without the risk of being raided, if this is the governments idea of creating safe covid environments then treetown is one massive failure - it is overcrowded - the tables are dirty - no social distancing - no covid checks - no masks ..............nothing - in the grand scheme of things it is quite shocking what is going on there is allowed which is why I keep saying something needs to change and fast to release the pressure, I am not suggesting it be raided or closed I am suggesting that other venues need to open to relieve the pressure, it cannot go on like this

The thicker the envelope the petitions are file with, the fairer the chance of success ....... so make sure that the petitions are written in huge capital letters and dont forget to mention numbers as well ....

1 hour ago, smedly said:

do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists

You need to consider the larger picture. A few bars opening won't cut the mustard. There has to be a countrywide message to the government from all  businesses, not just bars..

15 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Only way to do it and keep it up, but will it fall on deaf ears, that is the question ?

Wonder if alcohol bans would exist if alcoholic beverages were only sold through state owned stores ...?...

If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would:

 

Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food.

Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha.

Mai pen rai, cannabis appears to be on open sale there at coffee shops, so there's progress for you, 1k baht for 4 grams of THC oil ????

 

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20 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would:

 

Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food.

Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha.

Of course you would - right up to the point where the guys with baseball bats came to visit your bar. Don't talk such complete <deleted>

5 hours ago, riverhigh said:

Only 400 signatures? Not good. Just shows a lot of apathy from Pattaya business owners who don't see the big picture.  If tourists can't get what they want they will go elsewhere (ie. Phuket, Bangkok). That simple! This will effect hotels. laundrettes, barber shops, convenience stores ... any business that relys on the tourist baht. Just because your business doesn't sell alcohol doesn't mean its not your business and, consequently, no need to get involved in signing the petition.

 

If you are a farang business owner, your visa would propapbly be cancelled pretty quick if you tried to see the big picture and signed this.

The pimping business is now run by LINE, better to get into the cannabis market ???? 

At least do a soft lifting allowing restaurants to sell alcohol with the goal of opening entertainment to follow. Enough is enough already, it's time to open and let people be responsible for themselves!

only 18 months too late.  well done

1 hour ago, skorp13 said:

At least do a soft lifting allowing restaurants to sell alcohol with the goal of opening entertainment to follow. Enough is enough already, it's time to open and let people be responsible for themselves!

True, waste of time rocking up with 400 signatures on a piece of paper. Need to present a reasonable game plan for a soft/gradual lifting of restrictions , as they are too lazy/dumb to come up with anything constructive. Just easy way out is to say NO. Then they-Governors people- can present it as if it is their idea.

 

16 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

This could make Thailand the gastronomy "hub" of the world.  ????

Or even the gastroenteritis hub of the world.......????

4 hours ago, smedly said:

do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists

Which is entirely deliberate. 

2 hours ago, RafPinto said:

If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would:

 

Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food.

Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha.

You wouldn't survive long with those tactics mate. 

On 11/16/2021 at 4:22 PM, champers said:

I am hearing that there is a rumour on Facebook that bars will now be allowed to open on 1st December. Walking Street will be cleaned up in readiness. 

Hearing similar but can't blame ppl for thinking it's all nonsense..

 

Ndtvi just did a live stream on it though and according to them it looks like it could happen... Something about the bars being reastraunts now, but by name only... Gotta have white lights on and no live music etc. Also socially distancing.  ????‍♂️

 

Who knows at this point.. 

 

I'm leaving it til Jan anyway now and think many others are also.. some even not even considering to travel til songkran 

57 minutes ago, Sanookmike said:

Ndtvi just did a live stream on it

555

On 11/17/2021 at 5:32 AM, pomchop said:

Simple:  Hand out big fat envelopes to the cops/politicians and do anything you want.  Don't hand out envelopes and stay closed or get raided.

It’s ok to open as long as you keep your mask on while drinking and smoking 

3 hours ago, smedly said:

555

I never said it was credible I just stated it happened ???? 

23 hours ago, smedly said:

hundreds of people all drinking jam 

???? 

21 hours ago, smedly said:

do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists

Do a bit more digging and you will find that they are not "red zones", Chonburi still is.

Nick Dean is delusional if he really thinks his bars can open in December. Mark my words: it will take way longer before the bars in Pattaya can reopen as actual bars. Mark my froggin words!

Its pretty clear for all to see that bar closures have nothing to do with covid and everything to do with the PM wanting bars closed and currently having the power to do so through the emergency decree. Good luck getting those powers back by the way. He might actually believe that alcohol is the source of all evil its kind of hard to know what he really thinks. You cant threaten him with not voting for him next election because no one voted for him in the first place. Civil disobedience might work but would be the last resort. If everyone ignores his alcohol bans there really wouldnt be much he could do.

2 hours ago, Kevin Taylor said:

Its pretty clear for all to see that bar closures have nothing to do with covid and everything to do with the PM wanting bars closed and currently having the power to do so through the emergency decree. Good luck getting those powers back by the way. He might actually believe that alcohol is the source of all evil its kind of hard to know what he really thinks. You cant threaten him with not voting for him next election because no one voted for him in the first place. Civil disobedience might work but would be the last resort. If everyone ignores his alcohol bans there really wouldnt be much he could do.

From Nick Dean's ndvi stream last night it seems that the big breweries are the ones applying pressure to the Government. Chang, in particular, have a lot of plans on hold for building new developments in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere. This is through their property division. They have raised funding and need tourists back to start realising plans and getting returns for investors.

I don't know how much sway they have but we will likely find out before too long; a matter of days.

Wait.. didn't  these business  owners get the memo from the Thai Health department director?  Alcohol  relaxes the Pharynx  and lets covid enter easily.   Theres no way they can open bars if he says its true.

19 hours ago, champers said:

From Nick Dean's ndvi stream last night it seems that the big breweries are the ones applying pressure to the Government. Chang, in particular, have a lot of plans on hold for building new developments in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere. This is through their property division. They have raised funding and need tourists back to start realising plans and getting returns for investors.

I don't know how much sway they have but we will likely find out before too long; a matter of days.

Sounds like unsubstantiated nonsense. 

On 11/17/2021 at 2:39 PM, PETERTHEEATER said:

Or even the gastroenteritis hub of the world.......????

 

It already is, because what comes out of the politician's mouths here gives me the s#*ts.  ????  

On 11/18/2021 at 11:04 AM, MarcelV said:

Nick Dean is delusional if he really thinks his bars can open in December. Mark my words: it will take way longer before the bars in Pattaya can reopen as actual bars. Mark my froggin words!

 

Nick, and Steve from The Triangle Bar, should be careful.  If the authorities issue them a restaurant license, they may say it over-rides or voids their bar license, and come January 22 when they want to become a bar again, "Sorry farang.  No new bar licenses for Pattaya."