4 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

they report it when the perpetrators are white 

and they report it when the perpetrators are not white. Your comment is meaningless so I assume it's some kind of racists delusion on your part.

14 minutes ago, John Drake said:

A British lion.

Common sense and intelligence . 

It would be rather stupid to fight with a guy who wants to stick a knife into you .

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Common sense and intelligence . 

It would be rather stupid to fight with a guy who wants to stick a knife into you .

There was Gordon at Khartoum. Now, there is Jack at Phraeksa.

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Common sense and intelligence .

The common sense and intelligence part would have been for the <deleted> never to put himself in that situation in the first place.

23 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

Brit looks like a chav, i'm sure we don't know the full story

What does a chav look like?

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

The common sense and intelligence part would have been for the <deleted> never to put himself in that situation in the first place.

Seems like it was his regular drinking spot where he shared a beer with friends , its quite common for groups of people to have a beer outside shops  

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Seems like it was his regular drinking spot where he shared a beer with friends , its quite common for groups of people to have a beer outside shops  

Ah, the "it's common" excuse.  The guy was sitting on a curb, drinking alcohol late at night, and, had things gone otherwise, would then have driven off on his motorcycle impaired.  Yeah, it's common.

I love their holiday spirit. It should be everyday, not the every fortnight we see all year round. 

Hurray! The Thainess is Back, with a vengance!

4 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Ah, the "it's common" excuse.  The guy was sitting on a curb, drinking alcohol late at night, and, had things gone otherwise, would then have driven off on his motorcycle impaired.  Yeah, it's common.

You didnt read the story, did you . 

Firstly, go back and read the story .

(The British guy was outside a shop sitting on chairs with friends , friends who invited him to drink with them) 

The Thai guy did him a favor by him not driving home after alcohol consumption….in addition, helped him get some exercise…

 

the falang owes him unlimited beer for a month… 

Welcome to Thailand 

 

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You didnt read the story, did you . 

Firstly, go back and read the story .

(The British guy was outside a shop sitting on chairs with friends , friends who invited him to drink with them) 

Did you look at the video? He's sitting on the curb.

38 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Glad you are so integrated.

 

It depends what level of Thai society but I warn people NOT to accept invitations to sit down and drink with Thai's from Thai's below a certain level. The best you can hope for is the bill. The definer is if they are sitting around a bottle of Mekhong or Saang Thip. My polite refusal to an invitation is to explain I have stomach trouble - they seem to accept that as a genuine reason and not a put down/slight.

 

 

Yes found out years ago, they invite the foreigner give him a few drinks then expect double or treble back

13 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Did you look at the video? He's sitting on the curb.

Well I suggest that next time he sits on a chair, that would have avoided all the trouble 

Thai presumably only focused on the foreigner. Not interested in getting money from the Thais he was with.  Nasty racist attack if that was the case.

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well I suggest that next time he sits on a chair, that would have avoided all the trouble 

What it pinpoints is that you got the basic facts wrong. I would think that anybody glancing at that video for five seconds could see the circumstances were conducive for trouble. The body language, the fact that the other person sitting on the curb with Jack had already skedaddled while Jack was still upending a bottle and then only belatedly tried to make a peace offering. Alcohol, a dark alley, and voila, now Jack has to cower inside his home because he fears Jason is out looking for him with his machete.

38 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The best excuse is fear and snobbery. I find they always accept that.

Go ahead. Its not based on fear or snobbery at all other than in you head. Years ago there was a trend of going to Suthisthan/Saphan Kwai the working class Thai "pai theeow puying" area. Myself and people like me thought this was madness - people said, no, the Thai guys are completely cool with it - and I am sure they were, unless/until they weren't, the risk is that they can become completely unpredictable when drunk/might get resentful about your perceived buying power and you could spend 3 months in hospital without knowing what you did (you probably didn't do anything). I remember getting a look of pure hatred from a Thai when i was in one of their places against my better judgement - I'm English, I know when the gentleman at the next table would like to fight with me.

 

But you go a head with what you are doing, I am sure it is my lack of empathy with the Thai that is holding me back. Thais are very nice people but in the words of a Thai friend: "Thais are either very very good or very very bad and nothing in between" and that is exactly it, and it is hard sometimes to tell one from the other until "dee tek".

1 hour ago, Lite Beer said:

Yep. Blame the victim why don't you.

of course its his fault...its TiT 101...if he hadn't been there it wouldn't have happened.

Same old story !!!

2 minutes ago, wombat said:

of course its his fault...its TiT 101...if he hadn't been there it wouldn't have happened.

Well, I bet Jack wishes he hadn't been there, now.

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

A British lion.

A smart guy, at least he used his brain and ran. Has nothing to do with courage just with being smart. Why get into a fight with someone who has a knife. Running is better.  Unless your pride is worth a high risk. Mine is not nothing to win to get into a fight. 

 

I would have done the same, I will only fight if i absolutely have to. 

7 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Go ahead. Its not based on fear or snobbery at all other than in you head. Years ago there was a trend of going to Suthisthan/Saphan Kwai the working class Thai "pai theeow puying" area. Myself and people like me thought this was madness - people said, no, the Thai guys are completely cool with it - and I am sure they were, unless/until they weren't, the risk is that they can become completely unpredictable when drunk/might get resentful about your perceived buying power and you could spend 3 months in hospital without knowing what you did (you probably didn't do anything). I remember getting a look of pure hatred from a Thai when i was in one of their places against my better judgement - I'm English, I know when the gentleman at the next table would like to fight with me.

 

But you go a head with what you are doing, I am sure it is my lack of empathy with the Thai that is holding me back. Thais are very nice people but in the words of a Thai friend: "Thais are either very very good or very very bad and nothing in between" and that is exactly it, and it is hard sometimes to tell one from the other until "dee tek".

Try and relax a bit. 'Stranger danger' is for kids not adults. You might try to hone your 'character judgement' skills so as not to include every friendly dark skinned person, relaxing with a drink. A timourous life is a life unlived..

BOO!!!!! lol

It's more like a sword than a knife!

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

A smart guy, at least he used his brain and ran. Has nothing to do with courage just with being smart.

He did that, according to the OP, after "the Brit stood up and told the man to go home," which wasn't so smart, was it? Maybe the actual smart thing would have been for Jack to go home without challenging the guy after he was pestered for a free beer around the, oh, the sixth or seventh time??? One thing is for certain, life isn't going to be any easier around the soi for Jack now that he's blown this up into a national news story.

Just now, The Hammer2021 said:

Try and relax a bit. 'Stranger danger' is for kids not adults. You might try to hone your 'character judgement' skills so as not to include every friendly dark skinned person, relaxing with a drink. A timourous life is a life unlived..

BOO!!!!! lol

Sorry, I can't be bothered with you, you are projecting what is in your head without knowing anything about me or my experience of Thai people from all sectors of society/ observations over 25+ years. You are like these people who say it's absolutely fine to wander around big Brazilian cities after dark, which it is, until you have a problem, and that is why the locals beg you not to walk.

 

I specifically referenced people sitting around a bottle of whiskey as the type where it is probably best not to get involved, I think that went over your head.  You may be fine and have an enjoyable evening, but if you don't it could be serious.

Many Thais unstable, irrational, angry and dangerous. This scum should be found, arrested and locked up for at least a year. Danger to everyone and oops too late when he actually takes someone's life because he is a lowlife loser.

 

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

He did that, according to the OP, after "the Brit stood up and told the man to go home," which wasn't so smart, was it? Maybe the actual smart thing would have been for Jack to go home without challenging the guy after he was pestered for a free beer around the, oh, the sixth or seventh time??? One thing is for certain, life isn't going to be any easier around the soi for Jack now that he's blown this up into a national news story.

Telling someone to go home is not that bad a thing, sure it could escalate things but you don't have to totally be passive. Telling someone to go home or stop pestering you is normal. Depends a bit how you tell them though. 

 

But running from a knife, smart. 

Just now, robblok said:

Telling someone to go home is not that bad a thing, sure it could escalate things but you don't have to totally be passive. Telling someone to go home or stop pestering you is normal. Depends a bit how you tell them though. 

 

But running from a knife, smart. 

Someone asking you for a beer twenty times is not normal, is it? At least I wouldn't think so. And I certainly wouldn't tell a Thai to go home in his own soi if I was unsure of his sobriety or mental state. I would just lift my haunches off the curb and go home myself. Look at the video, the other Thai sitting with Jack at the curb knew there was going to be trouble and he cleared off.

 

TOT effect, now the rich tourists of high quality arrive, buy me a beer.