Following Thailand’s tightened entry restrictions – the situation remains calm in the country

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

No, of course it offers no guarantees nor does vaccination prevent the spread of covid, especially against omicron variant. Have a look at the recent case rate charts, USA, FR, etc and check the massive spread of covid despite high vaccination rates and ongoing booster shot programs.

 During clinical studies, both pfizer and moderna claimed VE (vaccine efficacy) in the 90% range, but in real world settings, (UK-HSA, detailed variant surveillance analyses) pfizer 2 dose vaccine effectiveness waned to 0% after 20 weeks, pfizer booster waned to 40% after 10 weeks, moderna held at about 70% 5-9 weeks after a booster. AstraZeneca (2 doses) recorded negative levels of protection after 20 weeks. (Technical briefing-booster Ve)

The vaccines were designed for the original strain, despite that they are still doing a great job at stopping serious illness and death which is important. All credit to them.

[codemonkey]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

The vaccines were designed for the original strain, despite that they are still doing a great job at stopping serious illness and death which is important. All credit to them.

Yes, despite surging and record setting covid infections in the US and Europe, death rates are in fact dropping.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, codemonkey said:

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
"So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control."

First published: July 2020

[Danderman123]

20 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

No, of course it offers no guarantees nor does vaccination prevent the spread of covid, especially against omicron variant. Have a look at the recent case rate charts, USA, FR, etc and check the massive spread of covid despite high vaccination rates and ongoing booster shot programs.

 During clinical studies, both pfizer and moderna claimed VE (vaccine efficacy) in the 90% range, but in real world settings, (UK-HSA, detailed variant surveillance analyses) pfizer 2 dose vaccine effectiveness waned to 0% after 20 weeks, pfizer booster waned to 40% after 10 weeks, moderna held at about 70% 5-9 weeks after a booster. AstraZeneca (2 doses) recorded negative levels of protection after 20 weeks. (Technical briefing-booster Ve)

Yep, Pfizer and Moderna protect well, even with Omicron.

 

What are the protection levels for the unvaccinated?

[Rimmer]

A post with an old outdated video AND a link to a conspiracy troll web site has been removed

 

 

[codemonkey]

7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep, Pfizer and Moderna protect well, even with Omicron.

 

What are the protection levels for the unvaccinated?

Ohh....about 98.9% survival rate give or take.

Also studies have emerged now showing strong evidence of natural immunity.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.21267114v1.full.pdf

Edited January 3, 2022 by codemonkey

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Ohh....about 98.9% give or take.

Really? Let’s see, 13 million diagnosed Covid cases in the UK. Looks like your numbers are off a bit.

[Danderman123]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
 

A preview of coming events in Thailand.

[codemonkey]

11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Really? Let’s see, 13 million diagnosed Covid cases in the UK. Looks like your numbers are off a bit.

Oh, no doubt what-so-ever....most likely EVERYONE is gonna get infected with omicron, irregardless of vaccine status, thing is 98% will survive an infection that to this point is no worse than the common cold. So, until a vaccine can actually prevent the spread and protect against infection, you'll get to enjoy a case of the "common omicron" cold.

 

But, if you are referring to natural immunity, there is more evidence now of the benefits of NI. Studies have reported on this.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eji.202149535

 

[Bkk Brian]

22 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

 

 

But, if you are referring to natural immunity, there is more evidence now of the benefits of NI. Studies have reported on this.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eji.202149535

 

Before Omicron then

[codemonkey]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Before Omicron then

Obfuscate much today.

Set your alarm clock.

Early bird gets the worm.

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Oh, no doubt what-so-ever....most likely EVERYONE is gonna get infected with omicron, irregardless of vaccine status, thing is 98% will survive an infection that to this point is no worse than the common cold. So, until a vaccine can actually prevent the spread and protect against infection, you'll get to enjoy a case of the "common omicron" cold.

The common cold does not kill or put you on a ventilator or leave long lasting symptoms. Covid can and does.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, codemonkey said:

Obfuscate much today.

Set your alarm clock.

Early bird gets the worm.

Just facts that affect your study and make it worthless

[codemonkey]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Just facts that affect your study and make it worthless

Ok, share the facts, or step aside and stop with your gaslighting.

Set the alarm clock.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Ok, share the facts, or step aside and stop with your gaslighting.

Set the alarm clock.

Your study dated Sept 2021 - Omicron Dated Nov 2021

 

Omicron has changed immunity protection in both vaccines and previous infection-----------Fact.

 

Keep that clock handy I'm happy to get back to you.

[jacko45k]

5 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Well, then, what to do. Do tell.
"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

We discuss Covid, not influenza.

That link is from May 2020 and relates to influenza.

[codemonkey]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The common cold does not kill or put you on a ventilator or leave long lasting symptoms. Covid can and does.

Exactly, now you can see and understand how covid/omicron is NOT lethal, not that I am aware of. Can you show me where death rates are increasing recently, especially in countries with lower vaccination rates?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Can you show me where death rates are increasing recently, especially in countries with lower vaccination rates?

Why on earth would I do your research for you....lol

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Exactly, now you can see and understand how covid/omicron is NOT lethal, 

So the deaths in SA and UK are not related to Omicron, stop this nonsense misinformation 

[codemonkey]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Why on earth would I do your research for you....lol

 

 

Ahh, i see. You don't have any research to question my assertion, cuz if you did you would plaster it all over for all to see. Ok, enough time wasted with you.

[codemonkey]

You can access today's covid schooling above.

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by codemonkey

[Trip Hop]

2 hours ago, codemonkey said:

No, of course it offers no guarantees nor does vaccination prevent the spread of covid, especially against omicron variant. Have a look at the recent case rate charts, USA, FR, etc and check the massive spread of covid despite high vaccination rates and ongoing booster shot programs.

 During clinical studies, both pfizer and moderna claimed VE (vaccine efficacy) in the 90% range, but in real world settings, (UK-HSA, detailed variant surveillance analyses) pfizer 2 dose vaccine effectiveness waned to 0% after 20 weeks, pfizer booster waned to 40% after 10 weeks, moderna held at about 70% 5-9 weeks after a booster. AstraZeneca (2 doses) recorded negative levels of protection after 20 weeks. (Technical briefing-booster Ve)

I agree with you totally. However, if you read the thread a bit further, there are some that choose not to believe this?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Oh, no doubt what-so-ever....most likely EVERYONE is gonna get infected with omicron, irregardless of vaccine status, thing is 98% will survive an infection that to this point is no worse than the common cold. So, until a vaccine can actually prevent the spread and protect against infection, you'll get to enjoy a case of the "common omicron" cold.

 

But, if you are referring to natural immunity, there is more evidence now of the benefits of NI. Studies have reported on this.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eji.202149535

 

We get it. You don't like vaccines. 

 

But, despite your description of Omicron as the common cold, hospitals in the UK are beginning to fill up with patients ill with Omicron. And deaths from Omicron are rising. 

 

BTW, what is your opinion about the vaccine's protection against hospitalization and death? 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Well, then, what to do. Do tell.
"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

Why are you posting about influenza? 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Exactly, now you can see and understand how covid/omicron is NOT lethal, not that I am aware of. Can you show me where death rates are increasing recently, especially in countries with lower vaccination rates?

 

[Danderman123]

Research indicates that people with a certain gene containing Neanderthal DNA are more susceptible to Covid infections. This includes Asians and Europeans, but not most Africans. Therefore, the data from South Africa may not be useful in predicting the impact of Omicron outside of Africa. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

We get it. You don't like vaccines. 

 

But, despite your description of Omicron as the common cold, hospitals in the UK are beginning to fill up with patients ill with Omicron. And deaths from Omicron are rising. 

 

BTW, what is your opinion about the vaccine's protection against hospitalization and death? 

I wouldn't bother with him, obviously an anti vaxxer, one of those who are filling up the hospitals and dying.........

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Ahh, i see. You don't have any research to question my assertion, cuz if you did you would plaster it all over for all to see. Ok, enough time wasted with you.

Yes. Science is wrong, and you know better than the experts. Lots of people with the same point of view are being intubated right now.

[meechai]

On 12/30/2021 at 10:59 AM, webfact said:

Following Thailand’s decision to suspend the ‘Test and go’ quarantine free travel scheme a few days before Christmas due to fears over Omicron, Swedes in the country say the situation is calm.

Pssst...I live in one of the highest tourism ranked States of the United States...We never required testing on arrival & still do not...Situation is just as calm here thanks...Except Tourism is booming here ????

Edited January 3, 2022 by meechai