MrJ2U Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, James105 said: all those vaccines have been administered 55 million of those vaccines were of the Chinese variety. Hardly worth counting. Edited January 5, 2022 by MrJ2U 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasTH Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: How does that blame foreigners? people need to educate themselves instead of pointing fingers Session 1: Introducing human infectious diseases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: 55 of those were of the Chinese variety. Hardly worth counting. The Chinese vaccines are effective against serious disease. "Recent studies suggest that China’s main vaccines from private maker Sinovac and state-owned firm Sinopharm are highly effective in preventing severe illness and death among those fully vaccinated" https://fortune.com/2021/08/31/china-covid-vaccine-sinovac-sinopharm-delta-variant-effective/ Omicron: good signs that Sinopharm and Sinovac shots fend off severe illness, WHO expert says https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3162208/omicron-good-signs-sinopharm-and-sinovac-shots-fend-severe Edited January 5, 2022 by ozimoron 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, dinsdale said: I hope you are joking. Remember the Delta was spread from hi-sos govt included. Nothing happened there. Im not joking.Its about time everybody star follow the rules.I mean thai and foreigner.What makes me upset is the videoes i see how people dont give a s..t...Some tourists acting like idiots among thai and vice verca.The only thing they understand is if big fines and deporaion is the end of their stay in thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The Chinese vaccines are effective against serious disease. "Recent studies suggest that China’s main vaccines from private maker Sinovac and state-owned firm Sinopharm are highly effective in preventing severe illness and death among those fully vaccinated" https://fortune.com/2021/08/31/china-covid-vaccine-sinovac-sinopharm-delta-variant-effective/ Thats good news. Earlier reports weren't so promising. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3162208/omicron-good-signs-sinopharm-and-sinovac-shots-fend-severe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Twin Peaks Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, stigar said: Im not joking.Its about time everybody star follow the rules.I mean thai and foreigner.What makes me upset is the videoes i see how people dont give a s..t...Some tourists acting like idiots among thai and vice verca.The only thing they understand is if big fines and deporaion is the end of their stay in thailand. Amazing times we live in when some think not wearing a nearly useless mask should lead to deportation. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, dinsdale said: How many have died from Omicron? Please provide a link. Exactly omicron seems to be nothing more than a miserable cold friends in UK have had it over Christmas Tired Misérable for few days back to normal after about 5 days 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, stigar said: Im not joking.Its about time everybody star follow the rules.I mean thai and foreigner.What makes me upset is the videoes i see how people dont give a s..t...Some tourists acting like idiots among thai and vice verca.The only thing they understand is if big fines and deporaion is the end of their stay in thailand. Agree in a way. People not giving a <deleted> about previous variants and the whole vaccine stuff was and is dispicable against society and simply pethetic individualism. Omicron I think, having seen quite a bit about it so far, seems like a way out. We'll have to see. Is it just a common cold with a twist? People were saying Sars-Cov-2 was just the flu. They were wrong. Is Omicron just a new coronovirus cold strain that will burn the whole thing out? Let's hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Twin Peaks said: Amazing times we live in when some think not wearing a nearly useless mask should lead to deportation. Stop spreading misinformation "Public mask wearing is most effective at reducing spread of the virus when compliance is high." https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118 "wearing mask in public is essential as its effectiveness has already been well established by the current studies. For exhalation isolation, both surgical and N95 masks are shown to be effective in reducing the spread of respiratory diseases, but the former is more accessible and comfortable to wear compared to the latter. For inhalation protection, air filtering respirators such as N95 masks can filtrate contaminants, bacteria and other matters from reaching nose and mouth, and are more efficient in virus penetration inhibition than surgical masks." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Travel restrictions now??? first we are urged to stimulate the economy and travel for the holidays and now back to restrictions???? Better could have the reestrictions last week, probably a lot of problems would have been prevented 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The Chinese vaccines are effective against serious disease. "Recent studies suggest that China’s main vaccines from private maker Sinovac and state-owned firm Sinopharm are highly effective in preventing severe illness and death among those fully vaccinated" https://fortune.com/2021/08/31/china-covid-vaccine-sinovac-sinopharm-delta-variant-effective/ August 31 2021. I think the discussion has move on a bit. As for the varacity of this article well I guess that's up fo debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasTH Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: Travel restrictions now??? first we are urged to stimulate the economy and travel for the holidays and now back to restrictions???? Better could have the reestrictions last week, probably a lot of problems would have been prevented Imagine if governments actually used our taxes properly.? now all I see is businesses is clashing with governments and it’s costing lives.? it’s sad to see society like this but hey that’s life .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, zzaa09 said: How about promoting stronger societal mitigation practices and protocols. For example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Letseng said: A 70% vax rate isn't enough. Apart from this, get the tourists to wear masks like everybody else does. Which 'everybody else' are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dinsdale said: August 31 2021. I think the discussion has move on a bit. As for the varacity of this article well I guess that's up fo debate. Nothing has changed. The second link from SCMP was published today. If it's "up for debate" then post links supporting your false claim that they don't work. A recent post by administrators warned BM's to post links to support their arguments. Edited January 5, 2022 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Stop spreading misinformation "Public mask wearing is most effective at reducing spread of the virus when compliance is high." https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118 "wearing mask in public is essential as its effectiveness has already been well established by the current studies. For exhalation isolation, both surgical and N95 masks are shown to be effective in reducing the spread of respiratory diseases, but the former is more accessible and comfortable to wear compared to the latter. For inhalation protection, air filtering respirators such as N95 masks can filtrate contaminants, bacteria and other matters from reaching nose and mouth, and are more efficient in virus penetration inhibition than surgical masks." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/ Many years ago when I got to Japan I saw people wearing medical masks. I asked why. I was told they probably had a cold and did not want to give to anyone else. Supurb. Just supurb. Thinking about other people. Such a pity most of the world doesn't think this way. Remember mask wearing number 1 is not about self protection. It's about protecting others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasTH Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, dinsdale said: Many years ago when I got to Japan I saw people wearing medical masks. I asked why. I was told they probably had a cold and did not want to give to anyone else. Supurb. Just supurb. Thinking about other people. Such a pity most of the world doesn't think this way. Remember mask wearing number 1 is not about self protection. It's about protecting others. There’s a lot of selfish individuals in this world.. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, stigar said: Close thailand..give the tourists who don wear mask a fine 100.000 bath and cancel their visa. Send them back home ASAP.Close "restaurants"who have prove allready they dont give a s..... Its time they learn their lesson. Dear me, you’d do well in DPRK! Why stop there? Why not kick out all foreigners? How would you feel about that? Rhetorical. Amazing how people enjoy having their freedoms eroded and equate everything to foreign visitors. It is mainly the Thai people spreading this cold and also Thais bringing it in. If you want covid 0, I’m afraid you’ll need to shut for good and stay in doors by yourself for the rest of your life. Might suit you, but some of us enjoy living b Edited January 5, 2022 by daveAustin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Nothing has changed. The second link from SCMP was published today. If it's "up for debate" then post links supporting your false claim that they don't work. A recent post by administrators warned BM's to post links to support their arguments. Please be careful about accusing people of false claims. You may have to include Prayut and his cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, NicholasTH said: There’s a lot of selfish individuals in this world.. ???? Sadly this is very true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, dinsdale said: Please be careful about accusing people of false claims. You may have to include Prayut and his cronies. I don't think any of them post on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: Lock downs work China reports major drop in virus cases in locked-down Xi’an Health officials said they have basically achieved the goal of halting community transmission because the new cases were among people already quarantined. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-winter-olympics-sports-health-beijing-a91fff9b1312e2e5bea4f4ed789e9d4f Again! You lock down FOREVER to get covid-zero—it can never be a thing. But what’s the big deal. Folk will look back on this in 20y and realise how childish and wasteful they’ve been with their lives. Apt nik though. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, daveAustin said: Again! You lock down FOREVER to get covid-zero—it can never be a thing. But what’s the big deal. Folk will look back on this in 20y and realise how childish and wasteful they’ve been with their lives. Apt nik though. ???? It was several days. Far from forever. You're so witty though. Edited January 5, 2022 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: "likely to propose the indefinite suspension of the Test & Go entry scheme, stricter disease controls and travel restriction." Be ready for borders closed, all flights cancelled, restaurants closed, lockdowns and alcohol sales bans. I wonder how long they can keep doing this? Look at China, Hong Kong and now even Australia. Covid zero doesn't work. Why should Thailand think differently. It will fail. Let Omicron rip - it is already everywhere (low reported numbers are not accurate) and let's get over this. Numbers in Pattaya amongst expats are insane (not reported as self test/isolation) but no one I've heard of has been hospitalised. My son had had it. An employee has had it. Both over it in less than a week and no trip to hospital. Normality now! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, MarkerB said: Johnson's abysmal Govt. means many more will die. 100% will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: "likely to propose the indefinite suspension of the Test & Go entry scheme, stricter disease controls and travel restriction." I wonder how long they can keep doing this? Not as long as I can. They'll destroy the Thai economy and when the economy goes 'civil' society goes with it. We'll sit it out in the sticks and watch. Some of us get to that age where we can be happy without having to be entertained. Edited January 5, 2022 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, soi3eddie said: Look at China, Hong Kong and now even Australia. Covid zero doesn't work. Why should Thailand think differently. It will fail. Let Omicron rip - it is already everywhere (low reported numbers are not accurate) and let's get over this. Numbers in Pattaya amongst expats are insane (not reported as self test/isolation) but no one I've heard of has been hospitalised. My son had had it. An employee has had it. Both over it in less than a week and no trip to hospital. Normality now! China is probably not the best example. Once again they are locking people in their abodes and surely under-reporting the numbers. Who knows maybe they've made a worse variant in their labs and it's leaked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post papa al Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 Had covid twice. Effectively treated w/ Ivermectin. Cost 3.5baht. No biggie. Let's partay. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 58 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The Chinese vaccines are effective against serious disease. "Recent studies suggest that China’s main vaccines from private maker Sinovac and state-owned firm Sinopharm are highly effective in preventing severe illness and death among those fully vaccinated" https://fortune.com/2021/08/31/china-covid-vaccine-sinovac-sinopharm-delta-variant-effective/ Omicron: good signs that Sinopharm and Sinovac shots fend off severe illness, WHO expert says https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3162208/omicron-good-signs-sinopharm-and-sinovac-shots-fend-severe How ironic <laughs> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, connda said: How ironic <laughs> Oh, you have some evidence they don't work I assume? Where is it? <laughs> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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