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[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Ultimately, its entirely down to the two people in the relationship and what works for them. Every relationship is unique, because the two individuals are just as unique in the mindset outlook attitude and so on.

There is no, and never will be a "one size fits all" where relationships are concerned.

A good relatiobship is what works for you, not what works fir other people.

On the other hand, after hearing a few thousand stories about Thai ladies leaving a Farang after she got the house, a pattern seems to be emerging. 

[Danderman123]

I have to say, if my Thai wife of 20 years left me to go with a Thai BF, I would be going with a much younger model, and forget about her. 

 

 

[robblok]

13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have seen too many Thai ladies describe a guy as having a good heart, and therefore not boyfriend material. Customer, yes. 

That is the whole point, i know the kind of girls that talk about good heart. That is bar girl speak. That is not real English and your copying it. Scary. But it does show the kind of woman you mingle with no wonder you have the opinion you have about them. 

 

That is the kind you seek out when your a tourist or when you want much younger woman than your own age. No wonder you experience what you experience. Sorry but that is not the kind i have met. I guess it all depends where you look for woman and what you want out of them. 

 

I met most woman online and before i even agree to meet i test their English get some information about them. Does limit the group of woman you can date though. That is how i met my current SG GF. Online and first a lot of talk then you can take measure of someone. 

 

But I search for specific things in woman that most guys don't care about. Good English some education and a job are the minimum standards for me. No matter how cute a girl is for me its impossible to live with if the English is bad or they have no brains. For other guys just looking cute is enough.

 

Like i said everyone is different in what they want and look for. Body is important for me but i rather have bit less of a looker then a super hot girl that can't speak English and depends on me for income. I am not judging but it just wont work for me. 

[HighPriority]

6 hours ago, robblok said:

That is the whole point, i know the kind of girls that talk about good heart. That is bar girl speak. That is not real English and your copying it. Scary. But it does show the kind of woman you mingle with no wonder you have the opinion you have about them. 

 

That is the kind you seek out when your a tourist or when you want much younger woman than your own age. No wonder you experience what you experience. Sorry but that is not the kind i have met. I guess it all depends where you look for woman and what you want out of them. 

 

I met most woman online and before i even agree to meet i test their English get some information about them. Does limit the group of woman you can date though. That is how i met my current SG GF. Online and first a lot of talk then you can take measure of someone. 

 

But I search for specific things in woman that most guys don't care about. Good English some education and a job are the minimum standards for me. No matter how cute a girl is for me its impossible to live with if the English is bad or they have no brains. For other guys just looking cute is enough.

 

Like i said everyone is different in what they want and look for. Body is important for me but i rather have bit less of a looker then a super hot girl that can't speak English and depends on me for income. I am not judging but it just wont work for me. 

I just pay the best looking girl I can find 30k Baht a month (35k if she’s 1/2 my age) I don’t eat her food, I don’t talk to or allow her friends and family to visit and I make no effort to learn her language or culture.

And I make sure she understands no honey, no money. ????????
Works great for me…

 

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[sipi]

11 hours ago, CharlieH said:

 

As you rightly say we will never know and can only speculate. But to discover that the past 21 years was a total sham and lie was just too much.

From my own experience of something very similar, you NEVER get over it, you just learn to live with it. Took me 10 years to enter another relationship of substance again.

Ditto

[4MyEgo]

10 hours ago, robblok said:

Everyone has different likes and dislikes just a matter of finding someone who suits you. I for one like a woman with a brain and relatively good English. 

Naturally having a brain helps and good English, that said, woman are thinkers, planners, and some can become schemers, so you have to be on top of there moves, trust is one thing, but keeping an eye on what's happening and occasionally  questioning them to let them know your not stupid is key, that and NEVER parking your savings/investments into their hands, that would just be plain stupid because then you have just provided them with all your chips and lose your fall back position.

 

Love and trust are one thing, otherwise without the two your relationship won't survive, but your finances should always remain separate because when the trust or love changes, you have the out with less collateral damage making your move much easier. That's my take, and it reaffirms my thoughts every time I hear another farang lose the house and other things he provided for his Tiruk, that said, I don't have a problem with providing my wife with a nice big house and a car, but I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, noting I also live in it, so not really a lose to me.

 

When my time is up, she will then receive it all as I can't take it with me and I am sure will say, it was worth it as she continues in her new position of wealth. 

[4MyEgo]

10 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

I think taking their  own life would be the last thing anyone would do

Yep, from where I am sitting here in Thailand, you usually see the guy (Thai) taking the cheating partners life, for what it's worth, which I do not condone.

[robblok]

25 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Naturally having a brain helps and good English, that said, woman are thinkers, planners, and some can become schemers, so you have to be on top of there moves, trust is one thing, but keeping an eye on what's happening and occasionally  questioning them to let them know your not stupid is key, that and NEVER parking your savings/investments into their hands, that would just be plain stupid because then you have just provided them with all your chips and lose your fall back position.

 

Love and trust are one thing, otherwise without the two your relationship won't survive, but your finances should always remain separate because when the trust or love changes, you have the out with less collateral damage making your move much easier. That's my take, and it reaffirms my thoughts every time I hear another farang lose the house and other things he provided for his Tiruk, that said, I don't have a problem with providing my wife with a nice big house and a car, but I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, noting I also live in it, so not really a lose to me.

 

When my time is up, she will then receive it all as I can't take it with me and I am sure will say, it was worth it as she continues in her new position of wealth. 

That is why i have independent woman who can have their own finances. Current GF is making a lot more then me and a lot more then most of thigh earners back home. That is why i like woman with a brain and woman who are independent. That way you know they are not with you for the money.

 

I have never given my finances to anyone else to manage as myself, im an accountant by trade why would i do such a stupid thing. 

 

Like i said we all want different things and what I want is probably not the same as what other guys want. 

[robblok]

2 hours ago, HighPriority said:

I just pay the best looking girl I can find 30k Baht a month (35k if she’s 1/2 my age) I don’t eat her food, I don’t talk to or allow her friends and family to visit and I make no effort to learn her language or culture.

And I make sure she understands no honey, no money. ????????
Works great for me…

 

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Good for you.

[4MyEgo]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

That is why i have independent woman who can have their own finances. Current GF is making a lot more then me and a lot more then most of thigh earners back home. That is why i like woman with a brain and woman who are independent. That way you know they are not with you for the money.

 

I have never given my finances to anyone else to manage as myself, im an accountant by trade why would i do such a stupid thing. 

 

Like i said we all want different things and what I want is probably not the same as what other guys want. 

Yep, all depends what you want out of life, for me, I have enough for both of us not to have to work for the rest of our lives, therefore enjoy our companionship all day as opposed to working for the slave trade.

 

I get to enjoy my Mrs and she gets to enjoy me, that and she has the added security, does her work around the place, cooks great meals, no pressure, no set chores, each day as it comes.

 

For me personally, I have no issue with her having no funds, she can lean on me when she wants, but really has no need to, she gets an allowance to buy some veggies locally, anything else I pay for and when she wants something for herself she will ask. It works for us, and she doesn't break em which is even better, so I suppose you could call me her sugar daddy ????

 

Is she after my money, well all women want financial security, and if they say they don't, they are lying, regardless if they have money or not in my opinion.

 

[robblok]

Just now, 4MyEgo said:

Yep, all depends what you want out of life, for me, I have enough for both of us not to have to work for the rest of our lives, therefore enjoy our companionship all day as opposed to working for the slave trade.

 

I get to enjoy my Mrs and she gets to enjoy me, that and she has the added security, does her work around the place, cooks great meals, no pressure, no set chores, each day as it comes.

 

For me personally, I have no issue with her having no funds, she can lean on me when she wants, but really has no need to, she gets an allowance to buy some veggies locally, anything else I pay for and when she wants something for herself she will ask. It works for us, and she doesn't break em which is even better, so I suppose you could call me her sugar daddy ????

 

Is she after my money, well all women want financial security, and if they say they don't, they are lying, regardless if they have money or not in my opinion.

 

For me its no issue about funds either, its more that I don't like to pay for it as you then never know if she likes you or the lifestyle. With a woman who pays her own way your more sure of that. I don't work for a slave trader, i work for my own company. Totally different. 

 

I disagree with your opinion about woman want financial security. Like i said current one makes more then a lot more. I mean her company givers her a 100k house and car with driver among other things. So she pretty well off and high up. 

 

Its actually nice to be with someone who has great language skills and a really good brain. Makes my life a lot better. But like i said we all like different things. Though i must admit was a bit hard to accept that I was not the top dog  based on income. Money gives power in a relationship. But at the same time you never sure if she is with you for the money or not.

 

But if that does not bother you then good for you. I know that current GF can leave me at any point has no need to be with me except for liking me. Feels good. Though the dynamics are a bit harder to figure out (at first). 

[HAPPYNUFF]

A tragedy that a man   is driven to end his life. May he find some peace now.

As for Thai woman having a Thai boyfriend,  amongst  the several  cases I know of personally, the saddest is  regarding a  very good friend of mine, who died some years ago

He was married to his Thai wife  for over  25 years, bought  her a house  at the darkside of Pattaya, another  in her village  way up North, and another for her mother alongside that one.  Bought  a new pickup  every few years, gave the wife  thousands of baht weekly  for her own use (she  would drink a carton of Heineken   each 2 or 3 days, and  bought cartons of beer and cigarettes for (cousins??).    She was a simple  village girl, had  never worked for long, he met her  waitressing  at a mates of his hotel.        She was good hearted, looked after   her husband well, but was not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.   Always stated when her husband died( he was quite a few years older)  she would NEVER  re marry or have anything to do with a Thai man.   Six months after hubbies death, I ran into  her in Pattaya.    She had a  younger Thai guy  wrapped around her.  She was extremely embarrased at being caught out, but admitted  she was in the process of selling the Pattaya house and moving, with the lover, back to her village.   My mate  received 2 pensions, he was a retired Army officer,  and   also on an age pension.  On his death  the wife   was still entitled to one of those pensions, plus free medical care for life, the pension,  some years ago, was then  about US$20,000 annually, indexed  I was told.       The Thai guy certainly struck it rich . .He looked a bum without 2 baht to his name. My oldmate would be heart broken if he  knew.

[mtls2005]

14 hours ago, pagallim said:

where a German guy decided to burn his house down and hang himself

 

I haven't followed this story at all, but have the circumstances surrounding his death (suicide or murder) been determined by the authorities?

 

Was there more than one message spray-painted on the house? Is it weird that he used English? And not his native language or thai?

 

The use of LPG cylinders and car tires seems elaborate.

 

Does the widow stand to gain any other assets?

 

Regardless, another sad death is another reminder of one's mortality.

[KhunLA]

'wow' effect ... I think not.  Just another day.

 

Someone offs themself due to a failure of whatever.  Does anyone care.  Not even news worthy as 1000's do it everyday worldwide.  As long as they don't take anyone with them, enjoy the afterlife, if you think there is one.

[mancub]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

That is why i have independent woman who can have their own finances. Current GF is making a lot more then me and a lot more then most of thigh earners back home. That is why i like woman with a brain and woman who are independent. That way you know they are not with you for the money.

 

I have never given my finances to anyone else to manage as myself, im an accountant by trade why would i do such a stupid thing. 

 

Like i said we all want different things and what I want is probably not the same as what other guys want. 

Just curious re: "current girlfriend" . How often and why do you change them if they're perfect ? ????

[robblok]

Just now, mancub said:

Just curious re: "current girlfriend" . How often and why do you change them if they're perfect ? ????

I don't change them often but it happens. Been here 17 years so you figure it out. Plus there is no perfection ever. Anyone expecting perfection in a relation is crazy. I think in the 17 years I had 4 different ones. So id say that is not too bad. 

[mancub]

3 hours ago, HighPriority said:

I just pay the best looking girl I can find 30k Baht a month (35k if she’s 1/2 my age) I don’t eat her food, I don’t talk to or allow her friends and family to visit and I make no effort to learn her language or culture.

And I make sure she understands no honey, no money. ????????
Works great for me…

 

????????‍♂️

I take it you're over 32 then !

[mancub]

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

I don't change them often but it happens. Been here 17 years so you figure it out. Plus there is no perfection ever. Anyone expecting perfection in a relation is crazy. I think in the 17 years I had 4 different ones. So id say that is not too bad. 

But temporary perfection though ....like it , a 5 year plan....perhaps you could run for the next PM ! 

[robblok]

Just now, mancub said:

But temporary perfection though ....like it , a 5 year plan....perhaps you could run for the next PM ! 

Its not always my choice, plus there is also no temporary perfection. Relations are give and take and you have to compromise in them. 

[zzaa09]

On 2/8/2022 at 2:19 AM, Tippaporn said:

Moral of the story?  Never allow yourself to become attached to anything or anyone to the point where you can't freely walk away and never bat an eyelash over the 'loss'.

Perhaps. But, you'll be reminded that all situations don't fit nice and neat into tightly wrapped [and stereotypical] standardized analyst. 

Every life scenario and circumstance will vary greatly one from the next.

[Tippaporn]

14 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

  

On 2/8/2022 at 5:19 PM, Tippaporn said:

Moral of the story?  Never allow yourself to become attached to anything or anyone to the point where you can't freely walk away and never bat an eyelash over the 'loss'.

Perhaps. But, you'll be reminded that all situations don't fit nice and neat into tightly wrapped [and stereotypical] standardized analyst. 

Every life scenario and circumstance will vary greatly one from the next.

The concept I've mentioned would apply to all circumstances, as the myriad of variations are all of a single theme.  I'm thinking that that point may have escaped you.

 

The act of attaching ones self to something or someone is to create a dependency.  Now, there's nothing 'wrong' with that.  No one is an island unto themselves, after all.  But it is not, in my humble opinion, healthy to allow a quite normal and natural dependency to become consuming were that dependency to be broken.  When that happens a person has left themselves open to 'losing it' in whatever fashion.  The worst case of 'losing it' is to take ones own life.

Having a proper perspective would avoid such an outcome.  In fact, a proper perspective would facilitate a quick and easy transition from a place of misfortune (pain) to it's opposite side; happiness.  A proper perspective might be the knowing that nothing is ever taken or lost without something else, which is much better, taking it's place.  That perspective might have to be learned, though, through experience.  Trust in that perspective ultimately ensues.

One last comment on the subject.  To live life without encumbering dependencies is to live free.  Dependencies impinge upon freedom.

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by Tippaporn