Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, internationalism said:

yes, I was able to read (and quote) yet before it was paywalled.

But there are now thousands articles from all around world, in all languages.

 

Also easily to search for a source -  Seymour Hersch own  blog. Easily to be googled

The same Seymour Hersh who had 'sources' to come up with a whacky conspiracy theory on Osama bin Laden he presented as fact?

[Rimmer]

Off topic posts removed,  please go to the Nord Stream topic to find out more as this is off topic here, thank you

 

Also removed a post trying to drag Mai Lai  and Abu Graib into the topic, dont do it, this is trolling and worthy of time off

[Mavideol]

I enjoy receiving news like that, it makes my day  knowing the Orcs are getting kicked in their rear  555

Ukraine war: Russia suffers 'deadliest 24 hours'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-pouring-troops-eastern-ukraine-074310083.html

 

Ukraine: Russia has suffered record 1,030 troop deaths in a 24-hour span

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-suffered-record-1-144738635.html

 

[Mavideol]

16 hours ago, bannork said:

Good to see them culling each other.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64566582

agree and it appears they are "turning" on each other's quite often and beat their commanders

Putin's troops 'beat their commander, drag him away from front line'

Putin's troops 'beat their commander, drag him away from front line' (msn.com)

 

Russia Pulls Troops From Front Lines After Soldiers Beaten by Own Allies

 

Russia Pulls Troops From Front Lines After Soldiers Beaten by Own Allies (msn.com)

 

Notorious Russian mercenary shot dead in Ukraine

Notorious Russian mercenary shot dead in Ukraine (msn.com)

[rudi49jr]

Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) addressed the UN security council, he was invited to speak by Russia.
 

In a 4 February interview, Waters held the west and Ukraine largely responsible for the Russian invasion. In his address to the UN security council, he had changed his viewpoint somewhat. This is what he said, among other things:

 

“The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation was illegal. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms,” he said. “Also, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not unprovoked, so I also condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/08/roger-waters-pink-floyd-un-security-council-ukraine-russia

 

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) addressed the UN security council, he was invited to speak by Russia.
 

In a 4 February interview, Waters held the west and Ukraine largely responsible for the Russian invasion. In his address to the UN security council, he had changed his viewpoint somewhat. This is what he said, among other things:

 

“The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation was illegal. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms,” he said. “Also, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not unprovoked, so I also condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/08/roger-waters-pink-floyd-un-security-council-ukraine-russia

 

 

Ukraine's envoy to UN calls Roger Waters ‘another brick in the wall’ of Moscow propaganda.

[Bkk Brian]

Musk playing games that have serious consequences 

 

SpaceX curbed Ukraine's use of Starlink internet for drones -company president

 

WASHINGTON, Feb 8 (Reuters) - SpaceX has taken steps to prevent Ukraine’s military from using the company’s Starlink satellite internet service for controlling drones in the region during the country’s war with Russia, SpaceX’s president said Wednesday.

 

SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet service, which has provided Ukraine’s military with broadband communications in its defense against Russia’s military, was “never never meant to be weaponized,” Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s president and chief operating officer, said during a conference in Washington, D.C.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-spacex/spacex-curbed-ukraines-use-of-starlink-internet-for-drones-company-president-idUSL1N34O32S

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Ah, good old "anonymous sources". That guy has been around a lot recently.

I guess it depends on which side of the debate one is as to which leaks to believe.

I believe the leaks that are consistent with and support observable facts.

[bannork]

Not so much left in the tank for Russia these days 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/09/europe/1000-russian-tanks-destroyed-ukraine-war-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

[bannork]

A Russian offensive is stalling badly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/02/08/smashed-by-ukrainian-mines-and-artillery-russias-winter-offensive-just-ground-to-a-halt-outside-vuhledar/

[Social Media]

Dramatic moment Russian drone boat packed with explosives smashes key Ukrainian bridge as Putin unleashes new war weapon that Moscow hopes will turn tide of war

• The unmanned object is seen in the water approaching the bridge at-speed
• Some reports say it was underwater, while others say it was a surface drone

[Tug]

That’s been done before heck all the way back to ww1 there were crude examples of remote controlled explosive boats and Japan used to put some poor sap in them I’d sure cheer if the Ukrainians could manage to bring down Putin’s bridge to crimea down permanently 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Black Ops said:

Dramatic moment Russian drone boat packed with explosives smashes key Ukrainian bridge as Putin unleashes new war weapon that Moscow hopes will turn tide of war

• The unmanned object is seen in the water approaching the bridge at-speed
• Some reports say it was underwater, while others say it was a surface drone

Copying the Ukrainian tactics of using a drone boat to blow a bridge, sorry Ruskies, the original masters of this blew your Crimea bridge 4 months ago. Still not fully fixed yet.

[Bkk Brian]

Wagner boss dreaming of taking it all the way to the English Channel and giving France and other European countries to Ukraine....... He says its his own "genius plan"

 

 

Prigozhin Says It Will Take 1.5 Years For Russia To Capture Donbas, 3 Years To Reach Dnieper

 

"If we need to go to the Dnieper, then for three years, If we need to close the DPR and LPR, we need to work at least one and a half or two more years," Prigozhin said.

At the same time, he stressed that he has his own "genius" plan in case Russia wants to reach the English Channel (the strait between Britain and France).

 

https://ukranews.com/en/news/914375-prigozhin-says-it-will-take-1-5-years-for-russia-to-capture-donbas-3-years-to-reach-dnieper

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/10/2023 at 6:49 PM, bannork said:

A Russian offensive is stalling badly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/02/08/smashed-by-ukrainian-mines-and-artillery-russias-winter-offensive-just-ground-to-a-halt-outside-vuhledar/

From other sites on the internet, there does seem to be an intensification of Russian assaults, but by no means clear if the link refers to the expected Russian offensive, or just a local attack.

 

[tgw]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From other sites on the internet, there does seem to be an intensification of Russian assaults, but by no means clear if the link refers to the expected Russian offensive, or just a local attack.

 

Danilov: Russia began new offensive but faces major challenges

https://kyivindependent.com/news-feed/danilov-russia-begun-new-offensive-but-it-faces-major-challenges

[bannork]

More mobilization required.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3668762-russia-needs-to-conduct-further-form-of-mobilisation-to-continue-war-british-intelligence.html

[Saanim]

On 2/9/2023 at 2:44 PM, Bkk Brian said:

 

Ukraine's envoy to UN calls Roger Waters ‘another brick in the wall’ of Moscow propaganda.

Did you expect that he will say something else? Wondering what he will say when reading his interview in Berliner Zeitung?

[Rimmer]

A couple of off topic baiting posts have been removed

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Did you expect that he will say something else? Wondering what he will say when reading his interview in Berliner Zeitung?

Did Berliner write the song "Another brick in the wall"?

[Saanim]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Did Berliner write the song "Another brick in the wall"?

??? What's the question? Topic?

 

[bannork]

3 hours ago, Saanim said:

Did you expect that he will say something else? Wondering what he will say when reading his interview in Berliner Zeitung?

A woman from Poland was on a popular radio show in the UK. She said some in the West didn't understand that Easter European countries were sovereign nations. They hadn't been forced into joining NATO by American policy makers keen to expand Western influence. They wanted to join, sick of centuries of Russian imperialism.

[bannork]

 

[rudi49jr]

More than 5,000 pregnant Russian women flew to Argentina already so their babies obtain Argentinian citizenship once they are born. There were 33 pregnant Russian women on one flight alone.

 

I think someone is making a pretty penny off of this…..

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-64610954

[Bkk Brian]

Not sure how this is going to end but it certainly looks like there is a real rift happening now between Wagner and the Defense Ministry. They have stopped giving permission for Wagner to recruit from prisons and are now doing it themselves. This from the latest ISW update:

 

#Prigozhin also confirmed on 11 FEB that the #Wagner Group stopped recruiting inside Russian prisons due to the expiration of an agreement between the Wagner Group and the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).

 

2/ Prigozhin stated that unspecified military detachments outside of his jurisdiction – likely referring to Russia’s conventional armed forces – will continue convict recruitment efforts.

 

3/ A Wagner Group-affiliated Russian milblogger also claimed that the Russian MoD is increasing its efforts to recruit inside Russian prisons.

 

4/@DefenceHQ assessed on February 11 that the increasing conflict between the Russian MoD and #Wagner Group was likely the main factor in the termination of the Wagner Group-MoD agreement regarding prison recruitment.

 

5/ #Prigozhin’s influence and appeal will likely continue to decline as the Russian MoD continues measures to undercut Wagner Group forces’ battlefield effectiveness, as @TheStudyofWar has previously reported.

 

A more detailed article here:

 

Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, the once secretive tycoon, is confounding Moscow’s Kremlin-allied elite by starting to dabble in politics alongside waging war in Ukraine.

 

He challenged Ukraine’s president to a duel from the cockpit of a bomber. He threatened to urinate on the face of a critic. He declared his private army was fighting for “every street, every house, every stairwell” in the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.

 

And that was just the past couple of weeks in the still-nascent public life of Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, the St. Petersburg tycoon who is confounding Moscow’s Kremlin-allied elite by starting to dabble in politics alongside waging war in Ukraine.

 

Mr. Prigozhin operated for years in secrecy, profiting from his personal ties to President Vladimir V. Putin to win lucrative catering and construction contracts with the Russian government while building up a mercenary force known as Wagner. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/11/world/europe/russia-wagner-group-prigozhin-putin.html

https://archive.ph/UswOo

[bannork]

A pessimist critique of Russia's military capabilities.

 

[bannork]

A Russian war crime, the killing of US aid volunteer, Pete Reed 

 

[bannork]

Russians fighting for Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russians-fighting-bakhmut-legion/32267835.html

[Social Media]

Stay close to the wall. Move fast. Single file. Just a few at a time."

The staccato instructions come from the Ukrainian army escort taking us to a military position in battle-scarred Bakhmut, a city once famed for its sparkling wines.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has called the eastern city "our fortress". Russian forces have spent the past six months trying to capture Bakhmut. Now they have intensified their onslaught - Ukraine believes - to tear it down ahead of the anniversary of the invasion.

We follow orders, darting down an icy rubble-strewn street, with a clear blue sky overhead - ideal for Russian drones.

Just after we cross the road, two Russian shells come slamming down behind us on the other side. We turn around to see black smoke rising and keep on running.

[candide]

On 2/12/2023 at 8:30 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Not sure how this is going to end but it certainly looks like there is a real rift happening now between Wagner and the Defense Ministry. They have stopped giving permission for Wagner to recruit from prisons and are now doing it themselves. This from the latest ISW update:

 

#Prigozhin also confirmed on 11 FEB that the #Wagner Group stopped recruiting inside Russian prisons due to the expiration of an agreement between the Wagner Group and the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).

 

2/ Prigozhin stated that unspecified military detachments outside of his jurisdiction – likely referring to Russia’s conventional armed forces – will continue convict recruitment efforts.

 

3/ A Wagner Group-affiliated Russian milblogger also claimed that the Russian MoD is increasing its efforts to recruit inside Russian prisons.

 

4/@DefenceHQ assessed on February 11 that the increasing conflict between the Russian MoD and #Wagner Group was likely the main factor in the termination of the Wagner Group-MoD agreement regarding prison recruitment.

 

5/ #Prigozhin’s influence and appeal will likely continue to decline as the Russian MoD continues measures to undercut Wagner Group forces’ battlefield effectiveness, as @TheStudyofWar has previously reported.

 

A more detailed article here:

 

Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, the once secretive tycoon, is confounding Moscow’s Kremlin-allied elite by starting to dabble in politics alongside waging war in Ukraine.

 

He challenged Ukraine’s president to a duel from the cockpit of a bomber. He threatened to urinate on the face of a critic. He declared his private army was fighting for “every street, every house, every stairwell” in the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.

 

And that was just the past couple of weeks in the still-nascent public life of Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, the St. Petersburg tycoon who is confounding Moscow’s Kremlin-allied elite by starting to dabble in politics alongside waging war in Ukraine.

 

Mr. Prigozhin operated for years in secrecy, profiting from his personal ties to President Vladimir V. Putin to win lucrative catering and construction contracts with the Russian government while building up a mercenary force known as Wagner. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/11/world/europe/russia-wagner-group-prigozhin-putin.html

https://archive.ph/UswOo

He'll soon move to Africa, where he makes most of his money.