Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

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2 minutes ago, RupertIII said:

Not just Russia, seems China have now joined them in their propaganda/disinformation war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/28/china-spends-billions-on-pro-russia-disinformation-us-special-envoy-says

And it was noted that it doesn't help in the war aganst this disinformation that the BBC World Service has had its outreach curtailed due to budget cuts. Thanks, Tories.

[Mavideol]

7 hours ago, RupertIII said:

Not just Russia, seems China have now joined them in their propaganda/disinformation war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/28/china-spends-billions-on-pro-russia-disinformation-us-special-envoy-says

agree with you as the wife reads China news every morning and she laughs when comparing their (Chinese) (mis) information to the west information... unfortunately some of her relatives believe the Chinese version

[bannork]

Russian state TV discussing Russian imperialist ambitions 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by bannork

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[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/24/2023 at 7:56 PM, Neeranam said:

I understand why some neighbouring countries are helping Ukraine but why is the USA involved?

Because what Russia is doing undermines the very basis of international law and global stability.

 

If larger and "stronger" countries can just invade, conquer and annexe parts (or all) of any neighboring country simply because they want to, then the global stability of the entire world is in serious danger.

 

For instance, as many people have pointed out, if Russia can get away with this, China will feel emboldened in regards to taking more aggressive action against Taiwan - possibly up to and including invasion.

 

And as some of the videos from Russian state media posted just recently on this thread indicate, Russia already has ambitions towards other former Soviet states and if successful in Ukraine they will be even more likely to actively pursue those ambitions.

 

Not opposing Russia now will almost inevitably lead to more and more problems in future, some of which may be even more intractable.

[Bkk Brian]

33 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

BBC 

The BBC is a statutory corporation, independent from direct government intervention

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

[Rimmer]

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[tgw]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because what Russia is doing undermines the very basis of international law and global stability.

 

If larger and "stronger" countries can just invade, conquer and annexe parts (or all) of any neighboring country simply because they want to, then the global stability of the entire world is in serious danger.

 

For instance, as many people have pointed out, if Russia can get away with this, China will feel emboldened in regards to taking more aggressive action against Taiwan - possibly up to and including invasion.

 

And as some of the videos from Russian state media posted just recently on this thread indicate, Russia already has ambitions towards other former Soviet states and if successful in Ukraine they will be even more likely to actively pursue those ambitions.

 

Not opposing Russia now will almost inevitably lead to more and more problems in future, some of which may be even more intractable.

it's funny how the same logical arguments have to be repeated almost every day to the same people.

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[Mavideol]

and the "bluffed"  nuclear treats from Vlad keep coming as the regular fighting is not going as he expected

Ukraine news – live: Bakhmut and other frontlines a ‘grinding slog’, says US

A senior Pentagon official has called the war’s frontlines in Ukraine a “grinding slog” as he said that Russian forces are unlikely to make significant territorial gains in the next year.

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-news-live-putin-forces-050524778.html

Ukraine war news – latest: Russia mulling use of nuclear arms against potential US attack, report says

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-war-news-latest-russia-154420600.html

 

[Bkk Brian]

Have to agree with this, when Putin was looking for ways to turn the tide in his favour he and his generals thought the massive missile strikes targeting Ukraine's power supplies would break its infrastructure, instill terror and ultimately break the will of the people. He FAILED. Yet again.

 

RUSSIA has suffered a "major defeat" this winter, one top Ukrainian official claimed.

Ukraine's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmytro Kuleba, took to Twitter to highlight the Kremlin's failure to "freeze" Ukraine this winter, despite months of targeted bombing of civilian infrastructure.

He wrote: "On March 1, 2023, Putin suffered another major defeat. Despite the cold, darkness, and missile strikes, Ukraine persevered and defeated his winter terror.

"Furthermore, Europe has not 'frozen' despite Russian predictions and mockery. I thank our partners for standing with Ukraine."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20888209/ukraine-news-latest-war-russia-putin/

[bannork]

One reason Russia is not collecting its dead or even wounded from the battlefield may be to avoid payment to the widows back home. He's MIA not KIA.

 

[Rimmer]

Video of a drone landing on top of the AN-50 Radar Jet before they blew it up

 

 

Some more detail on War Zone

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/video-shows-drone-landing-on-russian-a-50-radar-jet-that-was-supposedly-attacked

 

 

[Mavideol]

it appears Vlad is not learning from his past mistakes, back in 1941 Nazis got stuck in the Ukraine mud, same is happening with the Orcs ....  (Russia’s faltering offensive is getting bogged down in the mud as the “rasputitsa” spring thaw comes early to Ukraine)

Vladimir Putin keeps making the same basic mistakes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vladimir-putin-keeps-making-same-070000113.html

Putin’s army stuck in mud like Hitler's in 1941

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spring-thaw-could-ukraine-distinct-171025455.html

 

 

 

 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

From Flighradar24 on February 23rd. Someone in Ukraine has a sense of humor (and perhaps a drone with a transponder).

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/2/2023 at 6:33 PM, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because what Russia is doing undermines the very basis of international law and global stability.

 

If larger and "stronger" countries can just invade, conquer and annexe parts (or all) of any neighboring country simply because they want to, then the global stability of the entire world is in serious danger.

 

For instance, as many people have pointed out, if Russia can get away with this, China will feel emboldened in regards to taking more aggressive action against Taiwan - possibly up to and including invasion.

 

And as some of the videos from Russian state media posted just recently on this thread indicate, Russia already has ambitions towards other former Soviet states and if successful in Ukraine they will be even more likely to actively pursue those ambitions.

 

Not opposing Russia now will almost inevitably lead to more and more problems in future, some of which may be even more intractable.

Regardless, Russia having the means to destroy you and everyone you know and your country is why European countries and America can't just go barging in, unless their existence is at stake, which it isn't.

 

A US president a while back said, "walk softly and carry a big stick" which holds true today. Unless a country can either defend itself, or join an alliance that can, weak countries will likely be taken over, as has happened as long as there have been countries.

[bannork]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Regardless, Russia having the means to destroy you and everyone you know and your country is why European countries and America can't just go barging in, unless their existence is at stake, which it isn't.

 

A US president a while back said, "walk softly and carry a big stick" which holds true today. Unless a country can either defend itself, or join an alliance that can, weak countries will likely be taken over, as has happened as long as there have been countries.

That's why there is NATO, an alliance to defend itself against Russian imperialism and barbarism, and the West has every right to supply weapons to Ukraine to defend itself. 

[bannork]

More ammo for Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64837699

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, bannork said:

That's why there is NATO, an alliance to defend itself against Russian imperialism and barbarism, and the West has every right to supply weapons to Ukraine to defend itself. 

The west can do anything it likes, but why is NATO involved when no NATO country is under attack?

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west can do anything it likes, but why is NATO involved when no NATO country is under attack?

Because NATO is the collective force of the West which strongly opposes the barbaric invasion of Ukraine by Russia. 

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12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west can do anything it likes, but why is NATO involved when no NATO country is under attack?

Because Russia is clearly a likely future threat to Nato members as well.

[onthedarkside]

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[Rimmer]

Off topic post and a repy have been removed.

 

Please stop this deflection all the time. 

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49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west can do anything it likes, but why is NATO involved when no NATO country is under attack?

As an organization NATO isn't involved. But individual nations that happen to be members of NATO are, as is their right. There's no rule saying that a member of NATO can't give aid to nations that aren't NATO members.

[bannork]

 

 

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4 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

 

I've got one that tops that:

Crowd erupts in laughter at Russia's top diplomat after he claimed the Ukraine war 'was launched against us'

A crowd laughed at Russia's top diplomat when he said the Ukraine war "was launched against us."

An audience member at India's G20 summit shouted, "Come on!" at Sergey Lavrov during the event.

He was answering a question about Russia's energy strategy moving forward.

https://news.yahoo.com/crowd-erupts-laughter-russias-top-180331064.html

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west can do anything it likes, but why is NATO involved when no NATO country is under attack?

maybe just to give a reason to complain  555

[Mavideol]

the collapse and obliteration of Vlad would be a great gift to the world... let's hope it will happen soon

The West must prepare for the imminent collapse of Putin’s Russia

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/west-must-prepare-imminent-collapse-165539408.html

 

Edited March 4, 2023 by Mavideol

[sammieuk1]

Russia has gone from superpower to laughing stock with the horse Lavrov's speech and the wheels falling off their pathetic false flag acting????