Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Seppius]

On 6/9/2023 at 7:24 PM, BarraMarra said:

Sky News has just reported that Putin has said he will deploy tacticle Nuclear weapons as soon as next Month in Belarus. Either a bluff or if it goes tits up Belarus will be targeted first in  Retalitary strike . That is of course if there stopped on route to Belarus by special forces. The west will be closely monitering traffic from Russia.

I have a feeling this would be a red line for the Americans, and they would have made that clear to Putin

[GroveHillWanderer]

17 hours ago, steven100 said:

have to disagree ....  This is war, it's not'  oh you can't do that ' and we can't do this .....  it's murder and the Russians will murder babies and anyone ....  Russia has committed so many war crimes it would fill a warehouse with evidence and documents.  They'  being Russia don't care one bit about war crimes because they know it will take years to compile, process, arrest and so on ....  Russia crossed the red line with raping women & children, shooting old folk in the head, killing kids,  sorry ....  it's past Ukraine being correct and being mr nice guy,  I say blow every hospital, school, office and whatever else they can,  kill every last one of them. 

 

so maybe we agree to disagree ...  lol

So you think the Ukrainians should just go out and commit multiple war crimes, (murdering innocent civilians, sick people and schoolchildren) simply because the Russians do it?

 

Yes, I'm definitely going to disagree with you on that one.

[tgw]

first, Ukraine doesn't target Russian cities.

 

second, Ukraine won't engage in mass killings of civilians

[Rimmer]

Off topic post and reply has been removed

[Jingthing]

20 hours ago, Seppius said:

I have a feeling this would be a red line for the Americans, and they would have made that clear to Putin

The dam threatening a nuclear power plant should have been a red line.

This is giving Putin the wrong message.

He will go further. 

[bannork]

Dismal reading on how Russia will continue to present a threat to the West for decades.

 

[zzaa09]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Dismal reading on how Russia will continue to present a threat to the West for decades.

 

.....and largely manufactured for decades.

Dumbing down is their specialty.

[metisdead]

Posts with screenshots of news items have been removed as there were no valid links to the sources of information provided. 

[rudi49jr]

4 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

.....and largely manufactured for decades.

Dumbing down is their specialty.

Dumbing down seems to be the trend in the whole western world. Just look at the rise of the (extreme) right, if not outright fascism, in the USA and Europe. Lots of guys - and a few girls - are chomping at the bit to be next great dictator. 

[tgw]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The dam threatening a nuclear power plant should have been a red line.

This is giving Putin the wrong message.

He will go further. 

To be frank, the "threat" to the NPP by the dam is minimal to not say inexistent. a lot of things in this conflict are spinned out of proportion.

 

there are several reasons for this:

1- the NPP's cooling water reserve pool is full and normally doesn't deplete rapidly on its own

2- if the water pool was to deplete, there are canalisations and pumps to pump water from a deep spot in the Dniepr

[steven100]

11 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

So you think the Ukrainians should just go out and commit multiple war crimes, (murdering innocent civilians, sick people and schoolchildren) simply because the Russians do it?

 

Yes, I'm definitely going to disagree with you on that one.

no .... but I would go after any Kremlin office,  housing army personnel,  army accomodation,  fuel depots, train stations, and many other selective targets.  Not Children or the old and frail.   imo

[Bkk Brian]

Awesome firepower. 

 

 

[rudi49jr]

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Awesome firepower. 

 

 

Holy sh!t! I wouldn’t want to be a hapless Russian soldier when that comes raining down. All those little ghosts (or whatever they are) appearing at the end of the video I find a little morbid, though….

[Kwasaki]

12 hours ago, tgw said:

To be frank, the "threat" to the NPP by the dam is minimal to not say inexistent. a lot of things in this conflict are spinned out of proportion.

 

there are several reasons for this:

1- the NPP's cooling water reserve pool is full and normally doesn't deplete rapidly on its own

2- if the water pool was to deplete, there are canalisations and pumps to pump water from a deep spot in the Dniepr

Yes there doesn't seem to be much concern other than the usual media hype, I heard the water used is also recycled until it is too hot, then fresh water is used again.

[rudi49jr]

The evil that is Russia:

 

“Kherson flooding: Ukraine evacuation boat attacked by Russia, killing three”

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65869999

 

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

The evil that is Russia:

 

“Kherson flooding: Ukraine evacuation boat attacked by Russia, killing three”

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65869999

 

 

It knows no bounds.

Even in how their regime treats their own people. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

The evil that is Russia:

 

“Kherson flooding: Ukraine evacuation boat attacked by Russia, killing three”

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65869999

 

 

There have been a few attacks on civilians evacuating, a UN staff member at one of them has also called it out. 

 

Here's a couple of more heart warming tweets that shows another side of the devastation, not so much human but also the animals. 

 

Whats that saying? Something along the lines of a country is judged by how they treat animals

 

 

[rudi49jr]

The evil that is North Korea:

 

“North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is cozying up to his counterpart in Russia, expressing "full support and solidarity" for the Kremlin's war on Ukraine.”

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-un-praises-putin-his-war-wants-holding-hands-2023-6?international=true&r=US&IR=T

[Bkk Brian]

International Criminal Court starts investigation into destroyed Nova Kakhovka dam

President Volodymyr Zelensky said on June 11 that the International Criminal Court had already launched an investigation following Russia's destruction of the Kakhovka dam in Kherson Oblast on June 6.

According to the president, court representatives have already visited Kherson Oblast and saw “with their own eyes the consequences of this Russian terrorist attack and heard for themselves that Russian terror continues.”

“The most cynical and brutal shelling of the flooded territory continues,” Zelensky said.

https://news.yahoo.com/international-criminal-court-starts-investigation-212048225.html

[Mavideol]

On 6/11/2023 at 12:02 PM, GroveHillWanderer said:

So you think the Ukrainians should just go out and commit multiple war crimes, (murdering innocent civilians, sick people and schoolchildren) simply because the Russians do it?

 

Yes, I'm definitely going to disagree with you on that one.

have you ever heard " an eye for an eye"  or in Ukraine do as the Russians do

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

The evil that is North Korea:

 

“North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is cozying up to his counterpart in Russia, expressing "full support and solidarity" for the Kremlin's war on Ukraine.”

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-un-praises-putin-his-war-wants-holding-hands-2023-6?international=true&r=US&IR=T

what else to expect from 2 morrons... birds of the feather flock together

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

what else to expect from 2 morrons... birds of the feather flock together

They deserve each other. But I'm worried Trump might get jealous.

[Mavideol]

in the mean time, Ukraine counter offensive is kicking Orcs arrrssess  555

 

Ukraine reports new gains early in counteroffensive

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-reports-gains-early-counteroffensive-194744690.html

 

[rudi49jr]

The brutality and barbarism of the Russians, as well as their hatred for Zelensky (Kryvy Rih is his hometown, which was bombed and at least 10 people dead) knows no bounds. How any western politician or citizen can still support Putin, or have even the slightest bit of sympathy for his brutal regime, is beyond me. 
 

 

[rudi49jr]

Putin is either delusional, or he’s being fed bogus numbers by his handlers. Or maybe both.

 

 

[Mavideol]

9 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Putin is either delusional, or he’s being fed bogus numbers by his handlers. Or maybe both.

 

 

the truth is coming out  555

Putin admits Russia has suffered losses and is lacking modern weapons

Putin admits Russia has suffered losses and is lacking modern weapons (msn.com)

[rudi49jr]

“Russia sets date of elections in newly annexed territories for Sept. 10, RIA reports”

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-sets-date-elections-newly-annexed-territories-sept-10-agencies-2023-06-15/
 

Hopefully by then there will be considerably less occupied territory in Ukraine that Russia can hold elections in. But besides countries like Iran, Syria and North Korea, there won’t be anyone who will recognize the results of these “elections” anyway.

[rabas]

Deep shift in Russian political landscape.

 

-- Putin now publicly supports Shoigu’s order to disband Wagner

-- Prigozhin talks revolts and firing squads.

-- If not Putin, who is protecting  Prigozhin?

 

What's going on?

 

https://igorsushko.substack.com/p/key-takeaways-from-prigozhins-hour

Author's twitter link:

 

 

 

 

[onthedarkside]

Possible negotiations in the Ukraine war: Stoltenberg warns of false peace

 

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warns of a false peace in Ukraine. “We all want this war to end. But for peace to be lasting, it has to be fair,” he told Welt am Sonntag. “Peace cannot mean freezing the conflict and accepting a deal dictated by Russia. Only Ukraine alone can define the conditions that are acceptable,” added the former Norwegian prime minister.

 

In this context, the NATO chief pointed out that military successes in the theater of war would strengthen Ukraine’s negotiating position: “The more occupied territory Ukraine can liberate, the better cards it has at the negotiating table in order to achieve a just and lasting peace. “

 

https://newsingermany.com/possible-negotiations-in-the-ukraine-war-stoltenberg-warns-of-false-peace/

 

[tgw]

11 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Possible negotiations in the Ukraine war: Stoltenberg warns of false peace

 

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warns of a false peace in Ukraine. “We all want this war to end. But for peace to be lasting, it has to be fair,” he told Welt am Sonntag. “Peace cannot mean freezing the conflict and accepting a deal dictated by Russia. Only Ukraine alone can define the conditions that are acceptable,” added the former Norwegian prime minister.

 

In this context, the NATO chief pointed out that military successes in the theater of war would strengthen Ukraine’s negotiating position: “The more occupied territory Ukraine can liberate, the better cards it has at the negotiating table in order to achieve a just and lasting peace. “

 

https://newsingermany.com/possible-negotiations-in-the-ukraine-war-stoltenberg-warns-of-false-peace/

 

very misleading title