Former Thai PM Yingluck to be charged over transfer of NSC chief

[rudi49jr]

19 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Get a grip for heaven's sake.........how about dealing with the Red Bull cock-up first?

How about dealing with the enormous graft and abuse of power of the current powers that be? That would be a much better use of the OAG’s time. 

Edited March 1, 2022 by rudi49jr

[Eric Loh]

The OAG and NACC got together to indict Yingluck after she went live on facebook asking a one-on-one discussion with Prayut. Off course Prayut went off the rail and OAG and NACC decided to bend backwards to please their overlord. 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Thai-Enquirer-Summary-March-1-2022.pdf

[Andrew65]

18 hours ago, robblok said:

What is the point of this, I mean she is already disqualified from politics and on the run. No big fan of the PTP and  Yingluck but this is pointless. 

 

Besides its not like the current mob is not doing any dodgy transfers. They all want their people in places of power. Just look at the supreme court guy that is bending the rules to stay there. 

If the same standards were followed, a very large number of Thai politicians would have been convicted of malfeasance, corruption etc. It seemed to me that the only 'crime' her brother committed was to be seen to be (really) giving a sh*t about poorer people in Thailand, which is what politicians in very many countries in the world do.

[Dcheech]

Twenty years plus since the T man swept to power. Seven years since the judicial coup, then real coup against his sister and yet if they held a real election today, the Reds would still win. Might as well continue to beat a dead horse, as they have absolutely nothing else to do. 

[Burma Bill]

17 hours ago, howlee101 said:

Her brother was Thaksin Shinwatra...former PM

Yes indeed and both were my heroes! During all my 20 years of retirement in Thailand, I lived in the North. When both brother and sister became PMs and shifted investment funds from Bangkok, the rural North became transformed with massive infrastructure projects bringing modernization (especially in agriculture) and prosperity, Chiang Mai in particular. As far as we were concerned Bangkok was a "million miles" away and its dinosaur elite could get st.......fed!! I know many will disagree citing corruption, but this has been endemic whoever has been in power during my 20 years.  For me it was "who you knew" that mattered.

Long live both!!

 

[Dont confuse me]

They fear her and her family! I wasn't particularly a fan nevertheless this seems a witch hunt !

 

 

 

 

 

[billd766]

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Oh my God! Who is it that are sitting searching for this stuff. Are they bunkered in a cellar somewhere with 1 000 boxes of documents like in the KGB era? Maybe they even have a bonus system when they find something.

They don't really need to find anything as they can always lie or twist the truth. The ultra-royalist will always believe what the government says.

[candide]

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This is so sad...

But then, she could be living happily in Thailand if she wouldn't have followed the advice from her greedy brother.

 

It only made things easier, but they would have ousted her in any case, for any pretext. There was no way the yellow/green network would have risked to have a succession happening under a Shin government.

[humqdpf]

If it is such an obvious and grevious malfeasance to have transferred the secretary general back in 2011, is it not by now also a malfeasance to have only discovered that by now?

[PETERTHEEATER]

19 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Thaksin allegedly had a child when he was 20 years old.

Now that's  a medical first. Who was the father?

[Mr Meeseeks]

30 minutes ago, humqdpf said:

If it is such an obvious and grevious malfeasance to have transferred the secretary general back in 2011, is it not by now also a malfeasance to have only discovered that by now?

Yingluck obviously angered Prayuth by challenging him to a face to face debate on Facebook Live.

 

You can't challenge these little inadequate men, they don't like it. 

[Red Forever]

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This is so sad...

But then, she could be living happily in Thailand if she wouldn't have followed the advice from her greedy brother.

 

You really must move on from your irrational hatred of two of the most popular, democratically elected prime ministers in modern times.

Why not direct your ire at the incumbents who have (nearly) demolished democracy in Thailand?

[Bobydog]

20 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Thaksin allegedly had a child when he was 20 years old.

Had a child or Fathered a child?

[zzaa09]

3 hours ago, Dont confuse me said:

They fear her and her family! I wasn't particularly a fan nevertheless this seems a witch hunt !

 

 

 

 

 

This has been a standard [and excepted] practice forever regarding forced or voluntary exiles of political and scholarly note. 

There are countless individuals of exile status and worthy standing that don't receive the press and attention that the terribly influential Shinawatras do. 

 

There might be caveats attached to the slobbering romanticism that are the Shinawatras - usually dismissed are there deep skeletons within their respective closets. Yet, if we are using comparatives.....anything would be better than the ruling circles of the last several years.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Red Forever said:

You really must move on from your irrational hatred of two of the most popular, democratically elected prime ministers in modern times.

Why not direct your ire at the incumbents who have (nearly) demolished democracy in Thailand?

Why must I move on?

I am not the one who ignores the crimes of Thaksin and his little sister. 

Personally I think a country should be ruled by competent politicians who work for the people of that country.

Thaksin and his little sister worked mostly for themselves. Obviously they gave some crumbs to the people and they wasted lots of taxes.

I can't help it when lots of people still support these criminals. Personally I think all criminals should be prosecuted and go to jail. Because if that happens constantly then more people think about if they want to be criminals.

 

When will the Thai people support and vote for educated honest politicians who work for the people? I know that is a strange concept for most Thais, but maybe one day they will understand that if they vote for corrupt politicians then they can't expect an honest government. It shouldn't be so difficult to understand.

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, candide said:

It only made things easier, but they would have ousted her in any case, for any pretext. There was no way the yellow/green network would have risked to have a succession happening under a Shin government.

Lots of people were happy when she was removed from her job. Mostly because she was incompetent and did what her corrupt big brother told her.

Yingluck could have worked for the people. She could have been honest. But that is not what she did.

Would she still be in charge if she would have been honest? I don't know. But I know for sure fewer people would have supported the last coup if she would have been honest and if she would have worked for the people.

[candide]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why must I move on?

I am not the one who ignores the crimes of Thaksin and his little sister. 

Personally I think a country should be ruled by competent politicians who work for the people of that country.

Thaksin and his little sister worked mostly for themselves. Obviously they gave some crumbs to the people and they wasted lots of taxes.

I can't help it when lots of people still support these criminals. Personally I think all criminals should be prosecuted and go to jail. Because if that happens constantly then more people think about if they want to be criminals.

 

When will the Thai people support and vote for educated honest politicians who work for the people? I know that is a strange concept for most Thais, but maybe one day they will understand that if they vote for corrupt politicians then they can't expect an honest government. It shouldn't be so difficult to understand.

In Thailand, there are two types of power: the power of appointed people and the power of elected people. Both are usually corrupt. The power of appointed people has been dominant during most of Thailand's modern history, with the exception of the short episodes during which the Shins have been governing. 

It doesn't matter too much if crooks are elected, as long as they are able to challenge the power of the appointed crooks, as Thaksin did. On middle or long term, it still leaves a chance to see honest people elected one day, as there is a minimum of accountability and people can learn to better use their democratic power. By contrast, as recent history confirmed once more, the unaccountable appointed power never evolves into an honest power.

[snowgard]

On 2/28/2022 at 6:05 PM, robblok said:

What is the point of this, I mean she is already disqualified from politics and on the run.

She is not on the run anymore. She won the court case.

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3128187/thai-court-voids-order-former-pm-yingluck-shinawatra-pay

[sead]

So Prayuth hasn't helped his guys to top positions?

[Andycoops]

The pointless witch hunt continues, one can only hope that the current crop of criminals running the place suffer the same fate, if they ever get removed from their illegitimate rule.

[Stargeezr]

Awww, the poor, poor, rich people and their problems. And I do not mean just the Red Bull criminal.

  The current self appointed government members are also included, especially the one who had a drug 

problem in Australia.

[herfiehandbag]

On 2/28/2022 at 6:05 PM, robblok said:

What is the point of this, I mean she is already disqualified from politics and on the run. No big fan of the PTP and  Yingluck but this is pointless. 

 

She is"disqualified from politics" by decisions which, by no stretch of the most "yellow fevered" imagination could be regarded as anything but politically motivated.

 

For someone who is"on the run" she maintains a remarkably high profile - it is rather more accurate to say that she is in exile - forced there by her political opponents.

 

She remains an influential and popular figure in Thai politics. An effective focus for opposition to the current regime.

 

They fear her for that reason, and must keep poking.

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[robblok]

14 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

She is"disqualified from politics" by decisions which, by no stretch of the most "yellow fevered" imagination could be regarded as anything but politically motivated.

 

For someone who is"on the run" she maintains a remarkably high profile - it is rather more accurate to say that she is in exile - forced there by her political opponents.

 

She remains an influential and popular figure in Thai politics. An effective focus for opposition to the current regime.

 

They fear her for that reason, and must keep poking.

 

Im not sure if your trying to pick a fight or anything. I am just stating the facts, politically motivated or not their mission of sidelining her and making sure she can't come back is succeeded. 

 

And with on the run i mean that she can't come back. Again mission completed. 

 

My point was their objectives have been reached feared or not its just a waste of time. 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Im not sure if your trying to pick a fight or anything. I am just stating the facts, politically motivated or not their mission of sidelining her and making sure she can't come back is succeeded. 

 

And with on the run i mean that she can't come back. Again mission completed. 

 

My point was their objectives have been reached feared or not its just a waste of time. 

I'm not trying to pick a fight.

 

On the run implies she is fleeing them, a hunted fugitive. She is not, she is living in exile - driven out (literally it seems) by a coup installed regime which knew that she was the most effective focus for the opposition.

 

And describing the disqualification from politics as " politically motivated" removes any validity from the disqualification - again an important point.

 

Your post implies that the regimes actions were legal and justified ( they installed themselves by a military coup during a democratic election process, - a very important point) and secondly suggests she is a fugitive which she clearly is not.

 

Again, not picking a fight, simply, for the umpteenth time, stating the background which frames  these events. Background which you (and some others) choose to ignore, and which significantly changed the "facts" you claim to present.

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I'm not trying to pick a fight.

 

On the run implies she is fleeing them, a hunted fugitive. She is not, she is living in exile - driven out (literally it seems) by a coup installed regime which knew that she was the most effective focus for the opposition.

 

And describing the disqualification from politics as " politically motivated" removes any validity from the disqualification - again an important point.

 

Your post implies that the regimes actions were legal and justified ( they installed themselves by a military coup during a democratic election process, - a very important point) and secondly suggests she is a fugitive which she clearly is not.

 

Again, not picking a fight, simply, for the umpteenth time, stating the background which frames  these events. Background which you (and some others) choose to ignore, and which significantly changed the "facts" you claim to present.

 

 

 

Ok, I disagree of the validity from the disqualification. She is disqualified and I wish more were. She has broken the law motivated or not she is not fit to be a politician. (the same goes for many of the current mob).

 

Your part on living in exile (agree).

 

I think the actions were justified, but political motivated. I wish all politicians (current MOB included) were held up to these standards.

 

My point was actually not the background as most know her background, but the fact that she is out of the game so let her be. Its done stop wasting time on her stop making her life even harder. 

[Flemo]

What's the rush, it's only beem 11 years.

[billd766]

11 hours ago, snowgard said:

She is not on the run anymore. She won the court case.

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3128187/thai-court-voids-order-former-pm-yingluck-shinawatra-pay

I wonder what has happened to her husband and son?

[Eric Loh]

27 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I wonder what has happened to her husband and son?

Her son should be around 18-19 years old now. Most probably living & studying in UK with her mum who was rumoured granted asylum status. Her husband Anusa left his high profile job with CP and I guess staying in UK too. 

Edited March 2, 2022 by Eric Loh
wrong word

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/28/2022 at 7:33 PM, howlee101 said:

Her brother was Thaksin Shinwatra...former PM who was also overthrown by the military while he was out of the country....or something like that.

Yingluck was not "also" removed/overthrown by the military, she was not PM at the time of the coup.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 3/1/2022 at 2:05 AM, Soikhaonoiken said:

I really don't think Yingluck would be bothered about these made up charges.... 

What is "made up" about the charges?   You're saying that his illegal transfer and replacement by a relative of hers did not happen?