2 minutes ago, Walkabout said:

Correction on the date: Congo vs Katanga : 1960-1963

 

What I say is that Russia is wrong but that parties on the other side are also wrong.

And our media are more propaganda than objective reports . . .

i certainly do not take side, I only want the fighting to stop.

Then we have some things we can both agree on but 400,000+ refugees is not propaganda, thousands of dead on both sides is not propaganda, Putin stating for weeks he was not going to do the very thing he did is not propaganda, Russia invading a free sovereign country is not propaganda. I wish you the best and hope cool heads prevail, by the way I am  just watching Al Jazeera and if you want to see lies and propaganda then the Russian Ambassador is speaking right now and his lies are jaw dropping...

What's the difference at being neutral and voting yes in united nations today?

EDIT. I mean can you stay neutral and vote yes in UN at the same time?

 

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5004070/un-general-assembly-votes-141-5-condemn-russian-invasion-ukraine

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Thai government has reaffirmed Thailand’s neutrality in the Russia-Ukraine crisis.

Let's hope the Western world doesn't become neutral when China invades LOS.????

Thailand cannot stay nuetral in the Ukraine Russian conflict. To not condem Russian and stay silent is tantamount to endorsing Russia's action. Silence is consent. The sign of a weak ineffective government.

Its the hypocritical belligerent fools —who’ve aggressively invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya and countless others, and who are now financially supporting the coup in Ukraine--to turn around and inform Russia that there will be “repercussions” if they too, meddle in Ukraine? . These Masters of War profit from all wars using the war mongering media to divide us all. Good on you Thailand. Doing something right. Don’t take sides in this mess that NATO has also had a big part in creating. 

9 hours ago, Banana7 said:

There we see it, Thailand will not do or say anything when they see horrendous international law violations, outrageous immoral actions and behaviour and unspeakable international political actions.

 

Just nothing from Thailand because they can't see how to make money from supporting the legal, moral and proper political position.

 

What is a coup leader to do? 

9 hours ago, mark131v said:

Well I guess that would apply if Thailand was in ANY way considered a righteous nation .

 In fact of you were doing a word association and asked what are your thoughts on Thailand you would need infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters to come up with righteous I would imagine.

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So, if Thailand spoke out against Putin and Russia, do you think that Russia would withdraw from Ukraine and call the whole thing off ?

So you walk by when old ladies are being mugged?  It isn’t in your interest to get involved 

2 minutes ago, d2b2 said:

So you walk by when old ladies are being mugged?  It isn’t in your interest to get involved 

We aren't talking about old Ladies getting mugged though , that's a different issue and has no connection with what this thread is about . 

   We are talking  Countries getting involved with other Countries problems and whether they should take sides or remain neutral . 

   

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Cowards just as they did by sitting on the fence with the Myanmar Coup as thousands were slaughtered.  

Cowards ? I would say the Thai decision to keep out of the coup in Myanmar was it would be some what hypocritical to do anything else than to do nothing .

The wording thousands were slaughtered should be are being slaughtered as the coup is ongoing . 

 

Before I condemn Thailand for their stance I'd like to know how the rest of ASEAN is siding.   East is East and West is West, those interest often don't quite align.

Short and sweet. It appears to me that they just told the Western world and Russia to F@#k off. Bad call IMHO.

14 minutes ago, d2b2 said:

So you walk by when old ladies are being mugged?  It isn’t in your interest to get involved 

If you were in a bar and a bar room brawl broke out , would you get involved and give your judgement about who was in the right and who was in the wrong , or would you just let them get on with it and not get involved ?

23 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

Thailand cannot stay nuetral in the Ukraine Russian conflict. To not condem Russian and stay silent is tantamount to endorsing Russia's action. Silence is consent. The sign of a weak ineffective government.

Thailand voted in the UN to condemn the Russian invasion.

2 minutes ago, mrjon said:

Short and sweet. It appears to me that they just told the Western world and Russia to F@#k off. Bad call IMHO.

Thailand voted to condemn the Russian invasion.

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

We aren't talking about old Ladies getting mugged though , that's a different issue and has no connection with what this thread is about . 

   We are talking  Countries getting involved with other Countries problems and whether they should take sides or remain neutral . 

   

Thailand voted to condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Thailand voted in the UN to condemn the Russian invasion.

Correct, this thread now needs updating, Thailand endorsed this decision:

 

In historic "Uniting for Peace" session, #UNGA adopts resolution demanding that the Russian Federation immediately cease its use of force against Ukraine and withdraw its military forces.

https://twitter.com/UN/status/1499068649121984519

 

Thailand also issued its own statement confirming the above.

 

10 hours ago, Banana7 said:

There we see it, Thailand will not do or say anything when they see horrendous international law violations, outrageous immoral actions and behaviour and unspeakable international political actions.

 

Just nothing from Thailand because they can't see how to make money from supporting the legal, moral and proper political position.

 

Don't want to risk offeding prospective Russian tourists or condo buyers.  Funny.  I thought that Saudi and Middle East were going to save the tourism.  So the price of T14's and fighter jets will have come down now for other despots to buy.

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Thailand voted to condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Have you read  what this thread is about and the thread headline ?

  This thread is about Thailand remaining neutral in the conflict 

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Have you read  what this thread is about and the thread headline ?

  This thread is about Thailand remaining neutral in the conflict 

Things move on buddy, its a new day a new flip

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

This is more promising, just seen this. Still some way to go but on the right track........................

 

THAI NEWS REPORTS: Statement by Dr. Suriya Chindawongse, Permanent Representative of Thailand to the UN before the 11th Emergency Special Session of UNGA on 1st March 2022.

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1499029231782993920

 

That’s positive, at least they didn’t abstain. Keep your eyes on China as this disaster continues. If WWIII starts and it could go t^ts up very fast, China will make its move. Bad times are coming. 

It's painful to watch, Thailand's leadership really has neither guts nor honor. 

23 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

If you were in a bar and a bar room brawl broke out , would you get involved and give your judgement about who was in the right and who was in the wrong , or would you just let them get on with it and not get involved ?

Not a good analogy.  Why?  One word.  Alcohol!

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

No they will rollover like they did to Japan in WW2

Yes, they rolled over and let Japanese forces transit wherever they wished.  But Thailand also made an official declaration of war against Britain and America in 1942.  After the war they rescinded it, claiming it was a bureaucratic error --- the only country ever to undeclare war.

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

No they will rollover like they did to Japan in WW2

Check your facts,they initially did not roll over.

"

Prachuap Khiri Khan was home to the Royal Thai Air Force's Fifth Wing, under the command of Wing Commander Mom Luang Prawat Chumsai. The Japanese 2nd Infantry Battalion of the 143rd Infantry Regiment under Major Kisoyoshi Utsunomiya landed at 03:00 from one troopship, and occupied the town after having crushed police resistance there.

Further landings took place near the airfield to the south. The Japanese laid siege to the airfield, but the Thai airmen along with Prachuap Khirikhan Provincial Police managed to hold out until noon on the next day, when they too received the ceasefire order. The Japanese lost 115 dead according to Japanese estimates,^[24] and 217 dead and 300+ wounded according to Thai estimates. The Thais lost 37 dead and 27 wounded.^[30]

 

Thailand.

 

So weak.  So immoral.  So expected.

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said during the discussion that Thailand’s long-standing relationship with Russia must be considered and that the Kingdom must walk carefully. He noted that Thailand will adhere to ASEAN’s stance on the Russia-Ukraine dispute, as the grouping has advocated for discussions between the conflicting parties.

To be honest we all know which side Prayut will favour... 

But on the other hand he's alienated himself from the west who have very long memories.

I hope future trade talks will remind Prayut of his current stance.

11 hours ago, Adumbration said:

$

Rubles...

9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So, if Thailand spoke out against Putin and Russia, do you think that Russia would withdraw from Ukraine and call the whole thing off ?

You missed the point completely. Upholding the sanctions goes a long way to bolster the view your country agrees the war and mass killings are unjustified even if you remain neutral. Look at Switzerland to understand this point.