Popular Post webfact Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 File photo Thailand on Saturday (April 16) reported 18,892 new COVID-19 cases, 22,220 recoveries and 125 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. Saturday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 4,012,184 with 26,754 deaths. The report comes as people are being asked to fully comply with Covid-19 control measures outlined by the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), including a ban on water-splashing activities, to prevent infection cases from increasing after the Songkran holidays. Government spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana stated that the government and the CCSA encourage full cooperation from local communities and tourists to follow regulations rather than spoiling the festive spirit by directly enforcing the ban. He added that water splashing, powder smearing, and mass gatherings in public places during the holidays allow Covid-19 to spread easily and would later create a major burden for healthcare facilities in the country.** **NNT contributed to this report Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-04-16 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Thailand set another year-high record of new COVID deaths for the third consecutive day with 125 on Saturday, the country’s seventh straight day with more than 100 deaths, while also reporting 2,062 COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition, the second highest tally of the year. The 125 new COVID deaths blew past the prior year high totals of 119 reported yesterday and 115 on Thursday. The 2,062 COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition became the country’s second highest tally of the year exceeded only by a 2,065 count of such cases reported last Monday. The bad news on new COVID deaths and serious hospitalizations came despite Thailand reporting more declines in officially reported new COVID cases to 18,892 and total active COVID cases under care to 221,452, both numbers declining steadily during the past week amid a general slowdown during the Songkran New Year's holidays. And both official numbers are widely considered vast undercounts with many cases going unreported. With Saturday's update, new daily COVID deaths in Thailand have risen for the past four consecutive days, and new serious COVID hospitalizations have risen for the past three consecutive days despite the New Year's holidays, both considered better indicators of the direction of the country's COVID pandemic. Among the serious condition hospitalized COVID cases, the share in the worst condition, those requiring intubation to breathe, declined slightly to 867, but that still is the third highest daily total of the year, and the decline from 872 the day before mostly because of all the new deaths. Overall, Saturday's update pushed Thailand's official COVID death toll for 2022 past the 5,000 mark for the first time to 5,056. And it pushed Thailand's total tally of official cases since the start of the pandemic past the 4 million mark for the first time, hitting 4,012,184, which would represent more than 5 percent of the country's population if it were accurate. For added context, during the peak of the Delta wave last fall, Thailand's daily COVID case count topped out at 23,418, but the numbers of serious hospital cases and the intubated share of those peaked above 5,600 and 1,100 respectively, and daily deaths topped 300 for a brief period. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/542795344005461 https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=main 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) What was it Anutin was saying about the great success Thailand was having, so recently? He was so wrong. Where is this arrogant fool's apology to the people? If they tried, they could not have found a less qualified man to attempt the position of "minister of health". And during a pandemic? Such amateur hour nonsense. Edited April 16, 2022 by spidermike007 16 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 PCR test positive cases, total of 18,892 official new infections. 125 official covid deaths recorded. Rapid tests positive cases, 8,858 bringing the total of PCR and ATK results to 27,750 https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ OWD rolling 7 day average, cases and deaths up to 13th April https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boomer6969 Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Thailand set another year-high record of new COVID deaths for the third consecutive day with 125 on Saturday, the country’s seventh straight day with more than 100 deaths, while also reporting 2,062 COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition, the second highest tally of the year. The 125 new COVID deaths blew past the prior year high totals of 119 reported yesterday and 115 on Thursday. The 2,062 COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition became the country’s second highest tally of the year exceeded only by a 2,065 count of such cases reported last Monday. The bad news on new COVID deaths and serious hospitalizations came despite Thailand reporting more declines in new COVID cases to 18,892 and total active COVID cases under care to 221,452, both numbers declining steadily during the past week amid a general slowdown during the current Songkran New Year's holidays. With Saturday's report, new daily COVID deaths in Thailand have risen for the past four consecutive days, and new serious COVID hospitalizations have risen for the past three consecutive days despite the New Year's holidays. Among the serious condition hospitalized COVID cases, the share in the worst condition, those requiring intubation to breathe, declined slightly to 867, but that still is the third highest daily total of the year, and the decline from 872 the day before mostly because of all the new deaths. For added context, during the peak of the Delta wave last fall, Thailand's daily COVID case count topped out at 23,418, but the numbers of serious hospital cases and the intubated share of those peaked above 5,600 and 1,100 respectively, and daily deaths topped 300 for a brief period. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/542795344005461 https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=main Well, when I look at these figures I am tempted to say that the peak of infections [of the current wave] probably was early April and that we are near the peak of deaths. Don't believe Songkram will have much impact with an infection rate that was sky high and is currently dropping. 4 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, webfact said: Thailand on Saturday (April 16) reported 18,892 new COVID-19 cases, 22,220 recoveries and 125 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. While I find the listed case numbers as very worrisome and from a lack of testing, the deaths keep climbing upwards. A few studies and reports indicate the lag time average from being infected to death. Attached below is just one of the articles I found. With knowing what the numbers are now and then extrapolating out we may well see over 200 or so deaths a day in the not to distant future. Many of those have been vaccinated with the initial two doses and never boosted. Boosters do give a fighting chance for not dying. Those who wish to say that they would rather stay unvaccinated as the vaccines are untested need to think about there "My natural immunities are better than a vaccine" view. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30566-3/fulltext https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/covid-19-symptoms-progress-death-3536264/ 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said: Well, when I look at these figures I am tempted to say that the peak of infections [of the current wave] probably was early April and that we are near the peak of deaths. Don't believe Songkram will have much impact with an infection rate that was sky high and is currently dropping. I am not sure that you truly understand that the case numbers are not clear and transparent and they are possibly between 5 and 10 times higher. 11 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: PCR test positive cases, total of 18,892 official new infections. 125 official covid deaths recorded. Rapid tests positive cases, 8,858 bringing the total of PCR and ATK results to 27,750 https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ OWD rolling 7 day average, cases and deaths up to 13th April https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand Walked over to the local Lotus last night to pick up a few items, traffic on Rama 4 at 8 pm was pretty steady as folks were returning from wherever. Walked inside the store and it was fairly busy, along with many hacking and coughing. We turned right around and walked back out and to the local 7-11. People are out and about just like prior to covid when they were sick and were not wearing a mask, at least now they are wearing a mask which will contain the majority of the spread, that is until they take it off to wipe there nose and face right after they have their coughing and sneezing attack and then spit the phlegm out onto the pavement..... 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Well if these figure are to be believed from this government it looks like it is working in their favour to re-introduce all kinds of restrictions on public gatherings and meetings to help them disenfranchise many of the populous from voting for other parties in the forthcoming elections. I would suspect an election will be called when their figures are shown to warrant such drastic actions. Only my cynical opinion of these bunch of corrupt clowns of course 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Could have sworn I recently read the figures were up in the 25,000 not so long ago here on Asean Now ? Edited April 16, 2022 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Could have sworn I recently read the figures were up in the 25,000 not so long ago here on Asean Now ? It is unfortunately a product of no testing or limited testing as folks went on holiday and even though sick were to selfish to stay home and then continued the spread. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Phuket marks 146 new COVID cases, two more deaths PHUKET: The latest Phuket Provincial Public Health Office (PPHO) daily COVID situation report has marked 146 new local infections confirmed across the island yesterday (Apr 15), bringing the total number of infections recorded since Jan 1 to 49,965. https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-marks-146-new-covid-cases-two-more-deaths-83827.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Lower the cases now... lift entry restrictions for tourists, after next week as predicted triple cases but with the maybe 12k cases for the coming days it is still only 36k so no problems... But the reality????? That is different and because I want that there are a lot of cases, but just a lot are a symptonic, and I am wondering why so afraid??? Publish than the severe cases only and we all know what is going on... but now.....everybody knows there is something not right 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: It is unfortunately a product of no testing or limited testing as folks went on holiday and even though sick were to selfish to stay home and then continued the spread. Whist I agree with your comment, I believe it is time to move on with life as this virus needs to spread through the world as other viruses have done and still do. The above said, I believe that I confused my previously stated 25,700 infections in my reply as it was deaths since Covid began 2.5 years ago. We are all going to die, that is a given, it is up to us to protect ourselves as we have done since we started roaming this planet, lock downs we know only prolongs the inevitable, the virus mutates so best to get it, surviving it is the objective and to be immune from it for once and for all, if we don't survive it, well we wouldn't have known any better because our time could be up tomorrow, bus approaching head on !!! Sure is we have the flu or a cold, we stay home so as not to infect others, but we really can't expect others to do as we do, it's just life, selfishness is everywhere and always will be, that said, I did stock up on toilet paper ???? Edited April 17, 2022 by onthedarkside unsourced misinfo comment removed 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: I am not sure that you truly understand that the case numbers are not clear and transparent and they are possibly between 5 and 10 times higher. Probably 10x higher, but the key metrics are hospitalizations, ICU and intubations. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post koratkarlos Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 What does water splashing have to do with COVID spread when there already a zillion people crammed into a Songkran event. The priorities established by this government are mostly wrong, not based on science, not based on what is good for the Thai common man and based on restrictive political and economic biases. Time to get a real plan for the future of Thailand. The current vision is a random sky of air pollution and storm clouds. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: I am not sure that you truly understand that the case numbers are not clear and transparent and they are possibly between 5 and 10 times higher. Spot on! Positive test results are roughly 1 out of 2, meaning tests, esp. PCR tests, are only conducted if someone seeks medical attention due to more serious symptoms. Edited April 16, 2022 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daithi85 Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Look at cambodia they seem to have completely given up on testing and restrictions and life seems to be back to normal. Big water fights there yesterday in pub street siem reap, everyone having a good time... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Chonburi announces 765 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 and seven new deaths One person was listed as being in serious condition in Chonburi currently, either on a ventilator or with pneumonia. The person was single dose vaccinated. According to the Chonburi Department of Public Health, the vast majority of recent cases are mild or asymptomatic at 99.589 percent. The seven new deaths were aged 29, 48, 60, 64, 70, 80 and 88 with severe personal health problems and pre-existing conditions. Four of them were not vaccinated. https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/16/chonburi-announces-765-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-and-seven-new-deaths/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KanchanaburiGuy Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 New Cases spiked at the beginning of April. The trend had been 22,000 - 24,000, and jumped up for a few days....... just a few days!......... to over 28,000 We've known for roughly 2 years that death........ if it's going to happen.......... follows infection/diagnosis by 2 to 3 weeks, on average. So it should surprise no one....... NO ONE!........ that we're seeing a small increase in deaths NOW........ (!!!)......... 2 weeks after New Cases surged for a few days! What's likely, of course, is the death rate will drop back down (to the 80s and 90s) fairly quickly.......... mirroring what New Cases did two weeks ago! DUH! . Personally, I think it would be great if the news media would explain what's going on.......... (since it's been known for a long time, already! )........ rather than sensationalizing it with shouts of "New High!" (115) and "New High!" (119) and "New High!" (125)...........all of which are qualified with the disingenuous "this year" or "since January"............ when all of them are nowhere near the "HIGH" for the pandemic, which is in the 300s! (And I think it would be great if ASEAN NOW followed suit, by not mirroring the news media's ridiculous and inappropriate sensationalizing! How about ONE THREAD about deaths going up, along with an explanation as to how this was predictable..........and probably inevitable....... as a short-term consequence of the short-lived spike in New Cases from two weeks ago! How about a thread like THAT, huh? ????????????) Cheers! 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said: Sigh. New Cases spiked at the beginning of April. The trend had been 22,000 - 24,000, and jumped up for a few days....... just a few days!......... to over 28,000 We've known for roughly 2 years that death........ if it's going to happen.......... follows infection/diagnosis by 2 to 3 weeks, on average. So it should surprise no one....... NO ONE!........ that we're seeing a small increase in deaths NOW........ (!!!)......... 2 weeks after New Cases surged for a few days! What's likely, of course, is the death rate will drop back down (to the 80s and 90s) fairly quickly.......... mirroring what New Cases did two weeks ago! DUH! . Personally, I think it would be great if the news media would explain what's going on.......... (since it's been known for a long time, already! )........ rather than sensationalizing it with shouts of "New High!" (115) and "New High!" (119) and "New High!" (125)...........all of which are qualified with the disingenuous "this year" or "since January"............ when all of them are nowhere near the "HIGH" for the pandemic, which is in the 300s! (And I think it would be great if ASEAN NOW followed suit, by not mirroring the news media's ridiculous and inappropriate sensationalizing! How about ONE THREAD about deaths going up, along with an explanation as to how this was predictable..........and probably inevitable....... as a short-term consequence of the short-lived spike in New Cases from two weeks ago! How about a thread like THAT, huh? ????????????) Cheers! Frankly, we can tell very little from the published figures. Just that up to 2-3 weeks ago infection rates were continuing to rise, as judged from increased deaths today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said: Sigh. New Cases spiked at the beginning of April. The trend had been 22,000 - 24,000, and jumped up for a few days....... just a few days!......... to over 28,000 We've known for roughly 2 years that death........ if it's going to happen.......... follows infection/diagnosis by 2 to 3 weeks, on average. So it should surprise no one....... NO ONE!........ that we're seeing a small increase in deaths NOW........ (!!!)......... 2 weeks after New Cases surged for a few days! What's likely, of course, is the death rate will drop back down (to the 80s and 90s) fairly quickly.......... mirroring what New Cases did two weeks ago! DUH! . Personally, I think it would be great if the news media would explain what's going on.......... (since it's been known for a long time, already! )........ rather than sensationalizing it with shouts of "New High!" (115) and "New High!" (119) and "New High!" (125)...........all of which are qualified with the disingenuous "this year" or "since January"............ when all of them are nowhere near the "HIGH" for the pandemic, which is in the 300s! (And I think it would be great if ASEAN NOW followed suit, by not mirroring the news media's ridiculous and inappropriate sensationalizing! How about ONE THREAD about deaths going up, along with an explanation as to how this was predictable..........and probably inevitable....... as a short-term consequence of the short-lived spike in New Cases from two weeks ago! How about a thread like THAT, huh? ????????????) Cheers! Not sure what you find so amusing? New highs in daily deaths are just that, new highs, everyone already knows there's a lag in deaths from infection to deaths, can be anything between a few days to 4 or 5 weeks. Its no huge revelation that needs explaining everyday. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said: not mirroring the news media's ridiculous and inappropriate sensationalizing! To misquote Marilyn Monroe: "but that's what they do." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said: Sigh. New Cases spiked at the beginning of April. The trend had been 22,000 - 24,000, and jumped up for a few days....... just a few days!......... to over 28,000 We've known for roughly 2 years that death........ if it's going to happen.......... follows infection/diagnosis by 2 to 3 weeks, on average. So it should surprise no one....... NO ONE!........ that we're seeing a small increase in deaths NOW........ (!!!)......... 2 weeks after New Cases surged for a few days! What's likely, of course, is the death rate will drop back down (to the 80s and 90s) fairly quickly.......... mirroring what New Cases did two weeks ago! DUH! . Personally, I think it would be great if the news media would explain what's going on.......... (since it's been known for a long time, already! )........ rather than sensationalizing it with shouts of "New High!" (115) and "New High!" (119) and "New High!" (125)...........all of which are qualified with the disingenuous "this year" or "since January"............ when all of them are nowhere near the "HIGH" for the pandemic, which is in the 300s! (And I think it would be great if ASEAN NOW followed suit, by not mirroring the news media's ridiculous and inappropriate sensationalizing! How about ONE THREAD about deaths going up, along with an explanation as to how this was predictable..........and probably inevitable....... as a short-term consequence of the short-lived spike in New Cases from two weeks ago! How about a thread like THAT, huh? ????????????) Cheers! I think you miss the true point if you believe tge case numbers are truly declining and testing is being done on a large scale...your issue with sensationalism is your view, not mine or others when it comes to this topic. Seems you believe what the government says.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, JetsetBkk said: To misquote Marilyn Monroe: "but that's what they do." If that's truly how you and the .. guy feel, then your free to move along to another OP if this does not suit your agenda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: I am not sure that you truly understand that the case numbers are not clear and transparent and they are possibly between 5 and 10 times higher. I would love to know more about the number of people that have died due to covid. Where do they live? How old? Previous or current other illnesses. I think these are soo vague because they want to keep control. As has been written there are large parts of the oountry that have not be vaxed and could be the areas of the deaths. If the majority of these deaths are in cities like CM BKK or Pat then I would be more worried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 Let's make one thing clear over 100 years everybody is dead who is living now.... No death no life....Covid, underlying disease, no diseases... Sorry but people die already as long as they are on Earth... I am sorry for every loss because it will hurt, but one day we will go too.. Vaccinations only help for not too sick or hospitalization, but will not prevent to get Covid.. We must accept it ..... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2022 21 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Whist I agree with your comment, I believe it is time to move on with life as this virus needs to spread through the world as other viruses have done and still do. The above said, I believe that I confused my previously stated 25,700 infections in my reply as it was deaths since Covid began 2.5 years ago. We are all going to die, that is a given, it is up to us to protect ourselves as we have done since we started roaming this planet, lock downs we know only prolongs the inevitable, the virus mutates so best to get it, surviving it is the objective and to be immune from it for once and for all, if we don't survive it, well we wouldn't have known any better because our time could be up tomorrow, bus approaching head on !!! Sure is we have the flu or a cold, we stay home so as not to infect others, but we really can't expect others to do as we do, it's just life, selfishness is everywhere and always will be, that said, I did stock up on toilet paper ???? To get peer reviewed studies on flu death in Thailand then you can visit a previous post I did on this here: 2005 - 2009 On average, 6 people in every 100,000 were estimated to die each year in Thailand as a result of seasonal influenza, representing 4,000 deaths per year. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275363294_Mortality_Attributable_to_Seasonal_Influenza_A_and_B_Infections_in_Thailand_2005-2009_A_Longitudinal_Study 2006 - 2011 The average annual influenza-associated mortality per 100 000 persons was 4·0 (so less than the above study of 4,000 yearly deaths) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4605410/" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said: I would love to know more about the number of people that have died due to covid. Where do they live? How old? Previous or current other illnesses. I think these are soo vague because they want to keep control. As has been written there are large parts of the oountry that have not be vaxed and could be the areas of the deaths. If the majority of these deaths are in cities like CM BKK or Pat then I would be more worried. Posted nearly everyday on these threads by @TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukadadoll Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Whist I agree with your comment, I believe it is time to move on with life as this virus needs to spread through the world as other viruses have done and still do. Covid now, in my opinion is much milder than it was in the beginning and if you look at 2021 Influenza and Pneumonia case in Thailand those figures are over 100,000 deaths in that year. The above said, I believe that I confused my previously stated 25,700 infections in my reply as it was deaths since Covid began 2.5 years ago. We are all going to die, that is a given, it is up to us to protect ourselves as we have done since we started roaming this planet, lock downs we know only prolongs the inevitable, the virus mutates so best to get it, surviving it is the objective and to be immune from it for once and for all, if we don't survive it, well we wouldn't have known any better because our time could be up tomorrow, bus approaching head on !!! Sure is we have the flu or a cold, we stay home so as not to infect others, but we really can't expect others to do as we do, it's just life, selfishness is everywhere and always will be, that said, I did stock up on toilet paper ???? Why stock up, you live in Asia people only use toilet paper as napkins in restaurants? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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