1 hour ago, brfsa2 said:

 

can you explain this bit more? 

I considered before the Huawei car charger that can connect to my 5K Huawei inverter, you have the option to charge only from the solar output, for example, if your array produces 3300 watt, then charge the car at that maximum power of 3.3kw. controllable via the Huawei Solar Fusion app.

they used to be super expensive a few years ago, now they are a bit more expensive than ABB, so might be interesting for people with the Huawei inverter.

 

What you are looking for is a more flexible DLB [dynamic load balance] charger that has 2 CT sensors, one sensing your solar inverter output and the other one sensing the house load.

With the charger app you can set your own threshold for these 2 sensors then, whether you want to charge pure solar or hybrid.

Unfortunately I only found this charger from NZ that can do it. There are probably more but not available in Thailand or Aliexpress.

 

Link: https://smartevchargers.co.nz/shop/wall-mount-ev-chargers/smart-ev-wall-charger-with-dlb-and-wifi/

 

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Solar Mode
With the included CT clamp installed on the output of your inverter the charger will automatically adjust its output to match what your solar is generating.
So if you are generating 20amps of solar this will be diverted to your car and will automatically adjust up and down so you wont export energy to the grid while the car is charging.

 

Dynamic Load balance
Install the included CT clamp at the mains and this will monitor your total house draw. If this draw exceeds the maximum limit the charge rate will be reduced to avoid tripping the breaker.
Great if you get free hour of power so you can run everything with out blowing a fuse.

 

 

Next week EV Easy Thailand will install a DLB charger at my house.

Unfortunately no 2nd CT sensor to sense my solar inverter output.

 

The reason I bought this, because I don't want to have another ugly second circuit grid cable for the charger.

I will connect the charger to the primary house circuit, so house and EV charger loads will be shared.

I will set the threshold at around 40A. If I schedule my charges in the night, I can have the full 32A capacity for charging, as my house load will be minimal.

 

Links: https://web.facebook.com/share/p/1FyxdhBQzW/, https://www.lazada.co.th/products/pdp-i5857746810-s24957098494.html

 

UPDATE: I can do some tricks and experiments if I want to charge pure solar, by having the CT sensor sense the solar output in reverse and put the threshold at 0A to do pure solar and higher to charge hybrid

 

 

My local BYD Dealer agreed to refund my 10k THB deposit, a nice surprise.

 

A thought on solar only charging.

 

I can tell if my car is being charged solely by solar from my PEA voltage.

 

If my voltage when charging climbs high (same voltage as before charging) then I know I’m solely using solar.  You could program this with a Pi and continually check, adjusting charging current etc accordingly.

 

Thats assuming grid-tied, no export.
 

 

7 hours ago, 4myr said:

Links: https://web.facebook.com/share/p/1FyxdhBQzW/, https://www.lazada.co.th/products/pdp-i5857746810-s24957098494.html

Thank you! that charger looks sleek and quite check the 22kW one. can you take photos of the internal when you install it? I believe it's likely you will have to open anyways to connect the input cables.

17 hours ago, Pib said:

P.S.   where I say EVO above I really meant the  EV3.X program.  I had the BYD e-platform "EVO" architecture on my brain so I kept saying EVO vs the intended EV3.x.

BYD Thailand factory

Currently building 

BYD DOLPHIN, BYD ATTO 3, BYD SEALION 6 DM-i, and BYD SEAL 5 DM-i.

Following the commencement of production in July 2024, BYD has accumulated production capacity of over 55,000 units and is expected to produce over 40,000 units for the entire year

 

From August 2024 until December 2024 registration numbers for Dolphin were 5,109

From August 2024 until December 2024 registration numbers for Atto3      were 3,107

From January 2025 to Sept 2025 registration numbers for Dolphin are 10,171

From January 2025 to Sept 2025 registration numbers for Atto 3    are 5,840

From January 2025 to Aug  2025 registration numbers for SEALION 6 are 6,954

From April 2025 to end of the year 10,000 Byd vehicles exported from Thailand

if these figures are correct out of the 55,000 vehicles built at BYD Rayong 41,181 have already been sold or exported overseas leaving 13,819 unsold between October until the end of 2025 

I hazzard a guess that the total numbers of Dolphin and Atto3 that are part of this promotion is between 7,000-10,000 combined

 

The final stretch of the EV 3.0! Rêver is leaving behind its BYD ATTO 3 stock, starting at 629,000 baht and the DOLPHIN at 449,000 baht, before the price surges to 150,000 baht by the end of the year!

With the EV 3.0 measures ending on December 31, 2025, the overall selling price of new energy vehicles in Thailand will return to normal levels or higher than the current price. 

Under the EV 3.0 measure, which will expire on December 31, 2025, support is available at 150,000 baht per vehicle for the BYD DOLPHIN and BYD ATTO 3 models. Once the measure ends, Reve anticipates that electric vehicle prices will increase in line with the changing price structure.

This campaign is limited to cars under the EV 3.0 project, which are limited in quantity. If the product is sold out, the campaign will be considered to have ended immediately. The campaign lasts from October 24, 2025, to December 10, 2025, or until the product is sold out, whichever comes first. And if during the campaign period until December 31, 2025, there is another campaign that is better than this campaign from the company, the company guarantees to compensate the campaign difference to customers who purchase cars under this campaign

https://ev.iphonemod.net/byd-thailand-and-rever-ev-3-0/

BYD seems to be the only brand pushing EV 3.0 with closure date of December 2025

July 1st 2024

It was DLT that mention the January higher figures factor here

Data from the Department of Land Transport indicate that the EV market has not been particularly strong since the beginning of the year. January recorded the highest number of registrations for the year at 13,321 units, driven partly by a rush to register before the January 31 deadline to qualify for benefits under the EV promotion plan, EV 3.0, which offers a 2% excise tax and a subsidy of up to 150,000 baht.

This rush led to a sharp decline in registrations the following months.

https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/business/automobile/40039276

 

20 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I took delivery yesterday of a PHEV.

 

I would have preferred an EV but they don’t make the car I wanted in a pure EV.

 

Most of my driving will be in EV mode anyway.

 

You need to give us more than that, a photo will suffice if you prefer !!

 

Don’t be like that Richard guy, telling us he went EV but never actually naming the car !!

6 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

You need to give us more than that, a photo will suffice if you prefer !!

 

Don’t be like that Richard guy, telling us he went EV but never actually naming the car !!

I prefer to be humble, but here you go.

 

MB S560e, 4 months warranty left, 27,000km, 40-50km EV range.

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I prefer to be humble, but here you go.

 

MB S560e, 4 months warranty left, 27,000km, 40-50km EV range.

Thanks, a thing of pure beauty !!

14-15 years ago, I bought a one year old Camry from the same tent.  A really nice, honest guy who works on very small margins.  I put 100k km on it and sold it for almost what I paid to a tent in Pattaya.  I saw the same car in my condo's car park, he was visiting someone, he was proud of his new purchase, it now miraculously only had 35k km displayed. Be wary of tents!

 

My new car has 3 wheels scuffed, someone has opened a car door into it and dinged a door, though you can only see it certain lights, and the back bumper is scratched.  I know a fantastic bodywork place who have quoted me 3,500 baht to fix the paintwork.  The wheels are about 1,500 baht each to fix at Tyres Plus.

 

The car is very quiet on petrol and silent in EV mode.

 

 

@JBChiangRai  Gosh JB are you jumping boat on owning a BEV based on this PHEV ICE purchase combined with you probably giving away of your SEAL and MG4 to family?    

 

    Seriously though, very nice looking Benz...enjoy it.   Cheers.

9 minutes ago, Pib said:

@JBChiangRai  Gosh JB are you jumping boat on owning a BEV based on this PHEV ICE purchase combined with you probably giving away of your SEAL and MG4 to family?    

 

    Seriously though, very nice looking Benz...enjoy it.   Cheers.

 

I much prefer BEV and was tempted when that recent offer on the EQS came out.  The problem is I think MB's EQ range of cars are pig ugly.  I also saw a demo MG Cyberster for almost 20% off but that had gone by the time I enquired.

 

People don't want a BEV that looks different from the already handsome ICE range, certainly that describes me.

 

All my local journeys here will be in EV mode, I just needed to get used to it being slower.

5 hours ago, vinny41 said:

 

The final stretch of the EV 3.0! Rêver is leaving behind its BYD ATTO 3 stock, starting at 629,000 baht and the DOLPHIN at 449,000 baht, before the price surges to 150,000 baht by the end of the year!

 

With the EV 3.0 measures ending on December 31, 2025, the overall selling price of new energy vehicles in Thailand will return to normal levels or higher than the current price. 

 

Under the EV 3.0 measure, which will expire on December 31, 2025, support is available at 150,000 baht per vehicle for the BYD DOLPHIN and BYD ATTO 3 models. Once the measure ends, Reve anticipates that electric vehicle prices will increase in line with the changing price structure.

 

This campaign is limited to cars under the EV 3.0 project, which are limited in quantity. If the product is sold out, the campaign will be considered to have ended immediately. The campaign lasts from October 24, 2025, to December 10, 2025, or until the product is sold out, whichever comes first. And if during the campaign period until December 31, 2025, there is another campaign that is better than this campaign from the company, the company guarantees to compensate the campaign difference to customers who purchase cars under this campaign

https://ev.iphonemod.net/byd-thailand-and-rever-ev-3-0/

 

 

Thanks vinny.   The one article shown above landed on my brain as just the age old sales tactic of saying a person needs to buy right now because stock is limited and prices are probably going much higher after the sale ends.   But after the sale ends the buyer finds out the price didn't really change that much, another sale/promotion came along with the same or lower price, etc.   

 

It will be interesting to see what price the Atto and Dolphin will be at come the first part of 2026...say around 1 March 2026 which should be far enough past the end of year/2025 sales hype to see what the "new, normal" price will be. 

I don't think the price will go up by much as it would kill sales stone dead.

I have no desire to change cars at the moment but if i did it would be Sealion 7 today.

In the future, it would be MG IM5 ( lose a little space and storage over the IM6 but what a thing of beauty, find the rear of the IM6 extremely fugly ) . Any of the Xiaomi 7 models depending on price ( obviously ).

The Zeekr range, while beautiful inside with some great specs, doesn’t do much for me externally !

While I don’t consider myself an expert on cars or a follower of fashion I still would like to think I have come a long way from when I bought a second hand Chrysler Avenger Estate back in the early 80’s on my then father in law’s recommendation.

 

Worse than that it also came in this delightful brown colour.

 

 

I also found it interesting in how Rever was trying to spin that the EV3.0/3.5 was the main factor in the BIG Atto/Dolphin price reduction, but the subsidy reductions between EV3.0 and EV3.5 are far less than the BYD promotion huge price decreases .   Plus the the timeline for manufacturers to meet the new EV3.5 requirements which are replacing the EV3.0 requirements has been extended/watered down so much by the Thai govt I don't think its really putting any of the manufacturers signed-up with the EV program (like BYD) into any financial bind (i.e., profit impact)....that is, "forcing" them to make these big, big price cuts.  But hey, it's a great deal for folks who need to by a car right now. 

 

Below AI summary gives pretty good, no to technical overview of the EV3.0 and EV3.5 subsidy programs, changes, timelines, supposed dealines

 

21 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I have no desire to change cars at the moment but if i did it would be Sealion 7 today.

In the future, it would be MG IM5 ( lose a little space and storage over the IM6 but what a thing of beauty, find the rear of the IM6 extremely fugly ) .

I'm on the same wavelength as you if I was to runout and buy a BEV "today"....it would be a Sealion 7. 

 

And I totally agree the IM6 has a rear end that is butt ugly.  And there is VERY limited view out of the IM6 hatchback window....but it does come with additional rear camera viewing capability to supposedly offset that limited direct viewing.   Plus I don't like the idea of a key IM6 display to control various things on the car being down on the center console where you need to look down a lot which takes your eyes off the road to change certain settings vs keeping your eyes up to change setting on a dashboard display.    But I do love the MG lifetime warranty on the battery and drive train....that's what go me interesting in thinking about the IM6.

 

Very recently I was very interested in the IM6 until I read/watch various reviews and on a Bangkok-Pattaya roundtrip a few days ago a white IM6 passed us and its ugly butt stood out like a sore thumb---the wife felt the same way.  So, the IM6 is off our "next BEV potential list" until it at least takes care of its ugly butt.  Funny though, when looking at IM6 pictures like in advertisements the rear end looks fine, but when actually seeing it, it didn't look good "IMO and the wife's opinion).   Of course an ugly butt to one person is a beautiful butt to someone else.

10 minutes ago, Pib said:

I'm on the same wavelength as you if I was to runout and buy a BEV "today"....it would be a Sealion 7. 

 

And I totally agree the IM6 has a rear end that is butt ugly.  And there is VERY limited view out of the IM6 hatchback window....but it does come with additional rear camera viewing capability to supposedly offset that limited direct viewing.   Plus I don't like the idea of a key IM6 display to control various things on the car being down on the center console where you need to look down a lot which takes your eyes off the road to change certain settings vs keeping your eyes up to change setting on a dashboard display.    But I do love the MG lifetime warranty on the battery and drive train....that's what go me interesting in thinking about the IM6.

 

Very recently I was very interested in the IM6 until I read/watch various reviews and on a Bangkok-Pattaya roundtrip a few days ago a white IM6 passed us and its ugly butt stood out like a sore thumb---the wife felt the same way.  So, the IM6 is off our "next BEV potential list" until it at least takes care of its ugly butt.  Funny though, when looking at IM6 pictures like in advertisements the rear end looks fine, but when actually seeing it, it didn't look good "IMO and the wife's opinion).   Of course an ugly butt to one person is a beautiful butt to someone else.

Yeah, had forgotten about that screen looking up at you while you are driving .

Also agree in the flesh ( no pun intended ) the IM6 butt is not pleasant, inspired by the Pontiac Aztek ?, yet avoided in the reviews. 

I am a great believer in first impressions and if i don’t like the look of something the first time around i doubt i will grow to like it and it would get on my nerves. ( which i think was a mistake i made with wife number 2 !! )

 

29 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

 ( which i think was a mistake i made with wife number 2 !! )

 

 

Andrew,

Do you know the definition of stupidity?

😛

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Andrew,

Do you know the definition of stupidity?

😛

Is it lust ?

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I have no desire to change cars at the moment but if i did it would be Sealion 7 today.

 

1 hour ago, Pib said:

I'm on the same wavelength as you if I was to runout and buy a BEV "today"....it would be a Sealion 7. 

 

For me, IF, MG S5 .... BUT ... the wife would be opposed, and I'd have to agree, as I'll be long gone, and she really likes the MG IM6.   Life time warranty, and would be here last vehicle. 

 

If BYD had life time warranty, would probably consider them, or if RD6 came with life time warranty, it would be in the truckport now 

 

I haven't sat in it, IM6, but it's all around larger than our ZS, so guess I wouldn't have any issue getting in/out.

13 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Is it lust ?

 

Penile Brain must be up there, if you'll pardon the pun.

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I have no desire to change cars at the moment but if i did it would be Sealion 7 today.

In the future, it would be MG IM5 ( lose a little space and storage over the IM6 but what a thing of beauty, find the rear of the IM6 extremely fugly ) . Any of the Xiaomi 7 models depending on price ( obviously ).

The Zeekr range, while beautiful inside with some great specs, doesn’t do much for me externally !

While I don’t consider myself an expert on cars or a follower of fashion I still would like to think I have come a long way from when I bought a second hand Chrysler Avenger Estate back in the early 80’s on my then father in law’s recommendation.

 

Worse than that it also came in this delightful brown colour.

 

 

 

My first car was a light green Hillman Hunter GLS, I paid 700 pounds for it from my summer earnings whilst a student.

 

Endsleigh Insurance only had 3 classes of car, and this was one of them, so I thought it was a bit of a bargain for a car that did 0-60 in 10 seconds.

 

Of course I ruined it by installing a vinyl roof myself (I learned the hard way it's a 2 man job) and spraying the windows inside with liquid tint.  Teenage nonsense.

Has anyone tuned and improved the factory installed suspension for their car?

This company in Lampang has a secret I don't know. However I am not willing to go so far to Lampang.

 

Here are some testimonies:

Hyptec: https://web.facebook.com/share/p/1BFCZjce91/

Deepal: https://web.facebook.com/share/p/1FGQ45ww2r/

 

As far as I know factory McPherson struts are not tunable. In general you will buy after market coil overs. So I asked perplexity how do they do it. I can't judge if perplexity just garbles some random statements here:

 

"The secret to tuning factory-installed McPherson strut suspension for better high-speed stability, despite these struts typically being non-tunable, lies in subtle geometry and hardware modifications that can adjust camber and damping characteristics.

 

Key methods include:

• Adjusting camber by modifying the lower control arms length or angles, if adjustable, to achieve better tire contact and reduce understeer.
• "Kicking" or tilting the strut relative to the spindle by using aftermarket or modified mounting bolts and brackets to increase negative camber; some systems allow replacing bolts with slotted or eccentric ones for fine tuning.
• Using specialized camber plates or adjustable top mounts that allow changes in static camber and caster angles, which improve tire grip at high speeds during cornering.
• Upgrading to tuned springs and shock absorbers with tailored damping rates that enhance stability and control for the specific vehicle and driving conditions.
• Ensuring that these adjustments maintain correct wheel alignment geometry and manage wheel clearance, especially when wider tires or altered offsets are involved.

While McPherson struts don't inherently have tunable damper or camber settings, these mechanical tweaks and aftermarket components enable tuning for improved handling and stability at high speed. The company you referenced likely uses such techniques and hardware modifications to achieve better dynamic control on the EVs they service.

This approach balances enhanced performance with the limitations of standard McPherson strut design, focusing heavily on camber management and damping adjustments through carefully selected parts and alignment settings."

 

So I'm looking for a suspension tuner that can do those tricks of Lampang, but closer to Hua Hin or Bangkok.

 

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I prefer to be humble, but here you go.

 

MB S560e, 4 months warranty left, 27,000km, 40-50km EV range.

 

Nice car, I had a MB PHEV, and the range you are expecting will be around 30km on a mild day, down hill with a good tailwind. It was simply not possible to drive far with electric only. The latest iterations with 35 kWh battery packs are a very different story - wish it would be possible to retrofit the bigger battery. I hope you have a good dealer in your neck of the woods, we did and we needed it 3 to 4 times every year - by all means, buy a warranty extension, the AC compressor and air springs fail frequently and are rather costly to fix on your own coin.

Solar controlled electric vehicle charging is gaining traction.

 

For those interested in EVSE tech, mikeselectricstuff YouTube channel has just released a video explaining the working of the Solax X1 series with extensive interface features. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

 

Nice car, I had a MB PHEV, and the range you are expecting will be around 30km on a mild day, down hill with a good tailwind. It was simply not possible to drive far with electric only. The latest iterations with 35 kWh battery packs are a very different story - wish it would be possible to retrofit the bigger battery. I hope you have a good dealer in your neck of the woods, we did and we needed it 3 to 4 times every year - by all means, buy a warranty extension, the AC compressor and air springs fail frequently and are rather costly to fix on your own coin.

 

I had an S350e in 2018, real world range was 19-21km.  This battery pack is double that size, but it's a lot bigger & heavier car.  I just did a 22km round trip and it used 50% of the battery, I might get 35km, maybe even 40km downhill with a tail wind.  I'll test it when I get back from holiday and give update here.

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I had an S350e in 2018, real world range was 19-21km.  This battery pack is double that size, but it's a lot bigger & heavier car.  I just did a 22km round trip and it used 50% of the battery, I might get 35km, maybe even 40km downhill with a tail wind.  I'll test it when I get back from holiday and give update here.

What's the performance like in EV mode? I imagine pretty slow?

57 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

What's the performance like in EV mode? I imagine pretty slow?

It’s 121hp in EV mode, it’s adequate rather than fast.

 

Nothing like a Seal Performance alas.

On 10/24/2025 at 6:53 PM, 4myr said:

500k baht down from the original price in Nov 2022.

Is it still expensive?

 

 

Maybe the Atto 3 is being cleared for the Atto 8 (eight) which has already launched in China and planned for the "global" market.  Will come in both BEV and PHEV versions.

 

 

https://www.car250.com/byd-atto-8-suv-7-world.html

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Pib said:

I also found it interesting in how Rever was trying to spin that the EV3.0/3.5 was the main factor in the BIG Atto/Dolphin price reduction, but the subsidy reductions between EV3.0 and EV3.5 are far less than the BYD promotion huge price decreases .   Plus the the timeline for manufacturers to meet the new EV3.5 requirements which are replacing the EV3.0 requirements has been extended/watered down so much by the Thai govt I don't think its really putting any of the manufacturers signed-up with the EV program (like BYD) into any financial bind (i.e., profit impact)....that is, "forcing" them to make these big, big price cuts.  But hey, it's a great deal for folks who need to by a car right now. 

 

Below AI summary gives pretty good, no to technical overview of the EV3.0 and EV3.5 subsidy programs, changes, timelines, supposed dealines

 

The main difference between EV 3.0 2023 and EV 3.0 2025 is EV 3.0 2023 was mainly for imports where EV 3.0 2025 seems to be Thai built only

As far as I know there hasn't been an incentive scheme for Thai built vehicles

Things to watch out for in January 2026 is requirement for Chinese brands to apply for export license

and battery and key battery components to be produced in Thailand from January 2026 although it doesn't state if this requirement applies to all EV Brands or just the EV brands that signed the MOU as part of EV 3.0 / EV 3.5

Looking at total number of registrations for 2025 from January to September 2025

There are 25 models that have registrations of more than 1,000 and 75 models that have registrations of less than 1,000 and 15 models that have registrations of less than 10

I think the 75 models with registrations of less than 1,000 would struggle to have a cost effective nattery made in Thailand 

 

 

1 hour ago, Pib said:

 

 

Maybe the Atto 3 is being cleared for the Atto 8 (eight) which has already launched in China and planned for the "global" market.  Will come in both BEV and PHEV versions.

 

 

https://www.car250.com/byd-atto-8-suv-7-world.html

 

 

 

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It would be a strange decision to replace Atto 3 model that has been in the top 4 number of sales from 2023 to 2025 with total sales of approx 33,000

Looking at 2024 registrations MG ZS was in 18th position an we already knew it would be replaced in 2025

Current 2025 registrations list BYD Seal in 21st Position of total sales although that might change with the recent price adjustments although I suspect new BYD Seal will launched at the March 2026 motor show