43 minutes ago, Pib said:

Yea, Geely is a 800 pound guerrila in the Chinese vehicle manufacturers....own several premium brands of vehicles like you listed above....that was one reason I became interested in the Zeekr line.  I have been slobbering over a Zeekr 7X also.  I visited the Motor Expo 2025 three times and spent a lot of time at the Zeekr booth looking at the 7X Standard RWD (Bt1.4M) , 7X Long Range RWD (Bt1.6M), and 7X Performance AWD (Bt1.8M)....setting in them....playing with the controls/settings/etc. 

 

Even visited a Zeekr dealershp about 15 minutes from my western Bangkok home, got to speak to a sales lady that had great English, but I intentionally didn't do a test drive....told her of my interest in the 7X, visits to the Expo, and how I was really just visiting her dealership to see if it was just a showroom or also a service center...turns out it's both.  I wanted to make sure any vehicle I buy has local service center support capability instead of only being a showroom.

 

Anyway, after my visitss at this point in time of the three 7X models the Long Range RWD is the one I prefer.  The 7X AWD scares me a little due to its air suspension system as air suspension systems can require deep pockets to repair after the warranty expires.  Also the AWD automatic doors is a little over the top for me.   The Zeekr 7X series has a 5 year 150,000km basic warranty and an 8 year 180,000Km battery/drive warranty---but no "lifetime" warranty (yet).   Maybe as  a premium brand Zeekr will have to follow-up with a lifetime warranty to keep up with competition.  

 

https://www.zeekrlife.com/en-th/

 

 

Air suspension, it's better move I stay away from them. To me would be ok if car was locally assembled and the part is easily available locally (import from China). 

The 7X is a CBU and very high tech to be assembled locally. I still prefer to pay for a chinese car air suspension than a German car! the german will come from china anyways 😄

 

Long range is 200K Baht more than the standard for extra 25kWh, AR HUD 36.21" and pro sound system (21 speakers vs 10) 

is it really worth it the extra weight and money? the 100kWh is NMC too! in 10-12 years it will be holding only 75kWh

 

Yea...I'd pay another Bt200K for the additional battery size, range, and other stuff the 7X Long Range offers over the 7X Standard.   Do I really need the extra range?...No, not really but I want it!

 

And in China the 2026 7X has been released with some upgrades over the 2025 7X sold in Thailand.....upgrades are a slightly larger battery, extra range, 900V vs 800V system, even faster DC charging (not that the 2025 model with its 420KWH charge rate is not fast enough already) more drive motor power, Infotainment system upgrade, etc.   When and if its destined  for Thailand and at what price if it arrives I couldn't say.

 

And maybe a refreshed/2026 BYD Sealion 7 will be enough to lure me away from the Zeekr 7X.....and once again when will the 2026 Sealion 7 arrive Thailand I couldn't say (probably late 2026 just before the next end of year Motor Expo)....hopefully it will have a larger battery and also have the Blade "Ver 2" battery vs current day Ver 1.

 

 

2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

Have you noticed the hidden giant here: The "Geely Ecosystem"

If you look closely at the data, the fragmentation of Chinese brands masks the true scale of the disruption.

If we aggregate the Geely Holding Group brands from that list, the picture changes:

    Geely (No. 6): 3,151 units

    Zeekr (No. 15): 871 units

    Volvo (No. 29): 217 units

    Geely Riddara (No. 26): 336 units (Electric Pickup)

    Lotus (Unlisted/Low Vol): N/A

Total Geely Group: ~4,575 units. Technical Implication: This effectively places Geely at No. 2, surpassing Honda (4,340 units) and BYD (4,292 units).

 

 

 

There are many good reasons to buy an ICE car. The most obvious is the economics for those that dont do many KMs a year, most substantial when it comes to hybrids that can do 18-24km/L. The insurance is much cheaper offsetting the Oil change requirements.

it is even cheaper to own a Yaris Ativ HEV than an EV car. you pay at least 10,000 baht more for insurance, but the oil changes and maintenance yearly is always going to be less than that.

 

 

WOW, the Zeekr is mind blowing! I was hooked with the IM6, but the Zeekr 7X is so much nicer! 

I always wanted a car with digital side mirrors! I might have it one day 🙂 

 

If you are aggregating Geely's different brands, then you would also have to add the 356 Denzas booked to BYD's total, which would again put BYD above Geely. But then again, you could argue that the Wuling bookings should partially/wholly be added to Geely's numbers, since Geely is part owner of Wuling.

 

Deepal and Avatr is also part of the same group (Changan).

Double posted

 

23 hours ago, Pib said:

Another interesting stat/chart from the 8 Dec car250 article....shows how Chinese vehicle manufactures are now dominating in new car sales right now---at least during the Motor Expo 2025.

To be fair to the Japanese, they only had a 60 year head-start over the Chinese and do offer a very low 3 Year Warranty, though not because some of the features they don't even offer that come as standard on lots of Chinese cars will break.

And it IS hard to sell your fleet at super high prices.

Anyway, they are fighting back with the BEV HiLux at only 1.491M and featuring a whopping almost 60KWH Battery. 

How can they lose in the long run?

Anyone know the current status of Neta Thailand?  I know the parent company in China declared bankruptcy in China and Neta Thailand got some investors to fend-off Neta Thailand from having to declare bankruptcy in Thailand but seems from around mid 2025 there has been little news of much significance on Neta Thailand.   Neta was an exhibitor in the 26 Mar - 6 Apr 2025 Motor Show but appear to be absent from the ongoing 28 Nov - 10 Dec 2025 Motor Expo.   https://www.motorexpo.co.th/exhibitors/whos_exhibiting/

 

And below are Dept of Land Transport "registration" stats for Jan-Nov 2025 showing Neta V-II and Neta X models are still being registered but it looks like "only" the Neta V-II is still being registered in any significant numbers.    Maybe I just missed some major memo on Neta Thailand "current" business status.

 

Partial Snapshot from DLT vehicle registration status thru Nov 2025.

 

 

Google AI Overview as of a 10 Dec 2025 search

Neta's parent company in China, Zhejiang Hozon New Energy Automobile, officially entered bankruptcy proceedings

 in June 2025. Neta Auto Thailand, however, states it is a separate legal entity and not subject to the parent company's bankruptcy status. 

 

Situation in China

Hozon Auto's financial troubles led to a creditor filing a lawsuit over unpaid fees, which initiated court-supervised restructuring (bankruptcy) proceedings. 

• Debt: The company reported outstanding debts of around 10 billion yuan (about $1.4 billion USD).
• Operations Halted: Neta's production was suspended, showrooms in Shanghai were closed, and employees protested due to unpaid wages since November 2024.
• Restructuring: Hozon is actively seeking new investors and undergoing a government-led reorganisation effort to resume production and resolve debt issues. 

 

Situation in Thailand

Neta Auto Thailand has publicly clarified that it is undergoing an internal reorganisation and is actively communicating with stakeholders. The local operation is not registered as a branch of the Chinese entity, which legally separates it from the parent company's bankruptcy in China. 

Key impacts and concerns in Thailand:

• After-Sales Service: Thai consumers have raised concerns about the availability of spare parts and after-sales support, with some experiencing significant delays in repairs.
• Dealer Issues: The number of Neta showrooms in Thailand has reportedly dropped from 60 to 40, and some local suppliers and dealers have reported substantial losses.
• Government Oversight: Thai authorities, including the Consumer Protection Board and the Excise Department, are closely monitoring the situation. Neta Thailand still has a commitment to meet local EV production quotas to qualify for government subsidies.
• Consumer Confidence: Some insurance companies have adjusted their policies for Neta owners, and consumers have been advised to monitor the situation closely and evaluate their options. 

Neta Thailand maintains it will continue operations and is working to reassure customers about long-term service and support, including setting up a new spare parts distribution center. 

On 12/9/2025 at 7:12 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Have you tried the Seal Performance?  From what you said it sounds like your kind of car.  Comfortable but a hypercar performance go-kart when you want it to be.

I don't doubt that Seal Performance offers performance but it's not really a 'sporty' car: plus it weighs a ton (actually, 2.185 tonnes).  If I was looking for a sporty EV I'd pick the Hyudai Ioniq 5N. 

 

I guess I'm old fashioned. Always been a sucker for the sight and sound of a high-performance ICE powertrain.

On 12/9/2025 at 8:43 AM, Bandersnatch said:

 

If you drive a BYD there will almost certainly be a BYD dealership on your route. You can see how many chargers are free on the app and it's plug and charge as the charger recognises the car. You have access to the customer lounge and facilities.

 

 

 

Good to know but hardly an endorsement of 'convenience' given the ubiquity of petrol stations in Thailand. You don't need to plan any route by where you can squirt some fuel into the tank. Plus with EV charging you also have to do all the 'heavy lifting' in the fueling process yourself, rain or shine. And rain usually means in the rain as I've yet to see charging stations with roof cover (other than in buildings).

 

23 hours ago, Pib said:

I would recommend each and every Thailand EV owner signup with at least these 5 charging network apps (signup is quick and easy) for long trips or around town charging:  PTT, ReverSharger, Elexa, PEA, and EA Anywhere.    Signing up with Spark EV would be good also in order to take advantage of their frequent promotions but since almost all Spark EV chargers are now also shown/useable from within the ReverSharger app a person doesn't need to use the Spark app to use Spark chargers that are expanding rapidly. 

 

I actually have PTT, PEA, EA Anywhere, DS Charge and something called Noodoe on my phone (I don't even remember downloading the last 3 and have never used them).

 

I'm probably missing a trick but PTT has worked for me / my occasional needs up to now and I quite like the 'book a slot' nature of it: a convert, I'll admit, as initially I thought it was yet another layer of inconvenience.

 

I don't care about the cost differences - 5 baht at home / 7-10 baht outside ... sure, it makes a difference, but not  much for the occasional user. 

2 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Good to know but hardly an endorsement of 'convenience' given the ubiquity of petrol stations in Thailand. You don't need to plan any route by where you can squirt some fuel into the tank. Plus with EV charging you also have to do all the 'heavy lifting' in the fueling process yourself, rain or shine. And rain usually means in the rain as I've yet to see charging stations with roof cover (other than in buildings).

 

Apparently there are some EV chargers in a gas station type setting but obviously quite rare.

Usually the charger will have some small shelter but very basic and often doesn’t stop the sun beating down on you while you are peering at the charger screen !

 

I did see an EV charging station ( 4 locations if i remember correctly )on FB recently with an attendant who would connect your car and set the charging in motion. He would then stop the charging at your request and accept payment, QR code and card I think. No app required which seems to be a great idea 

Add some sort of covering over car and charger and could be a winner !!

16 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

There are many good reasons to buy an ICE car. The most obvious is the economics for those that dont do many KMs a year

 

I personally can't think of any good reasons to buy an ICE car.

 

Five years ago I bought my wife a Suzuki Swift to learn to drive in. I bought her the car that she wanted.

 

The car design was already 10 years old at that point and they are still selling it today as 15 year old technology.

 

It was a truly appalling car to drive and we both suffered backache if we drove it for more than 30 minutes. 

 

After a year she passed her test and we eventually sold the car at a substantial loss (yes ICE cars do depreciate)

 

 

 

58 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

I don't doubt that Seal Performance offers performance but it's not really a 'sporty' car: plus it weighs a ton (actually, 2.185 tonnes).  If I was looking for a sporty EV I'd pick the Hyudai Ioniq 5N. 

 

I guess I'm old fashioned. Always been a sucker for the sight and sound of a high-performance ICE powertrain.

 

The Hyundai Ioniq 5N weighs the same as the Seal performance.

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

I don't doubt that Seal Performance offers performance but it's not really a 'sporty' car: plus it weighs a ton (actually, 2.185 tonnes).  If I was looking for a sporty EV I'd pick the Hyudai Ioniq 5N. 

 

I guess I'm old fashioned. Always been a sucker for the sight and sound of a high-performance ICE powertrain.

 

I think it's easy to lose sight of the fact that ICE cars are noisy and it costs a lot of money to quieten them.  They also have an engine which doesn't have a flat power band and therefore needs a gearbox to address that shortcoming.  Noise & changing gears are not a feature, they are a drawback.

 

Regarding sportiness, I would beg to differ, I think the Seal is indeed a "sporty" car.  BYD themselves classify as a sports saloon and I think that is right.  It is heavy, but it does not drive like a heavy car, it never feels heavy.  The center of gravity is very low, the weight balance is 55% rear and 45% front and it handles exceptionally well.

 

The suspension is arguably too firm and too sporty at the expense of comfort.  You can steer it on the throttle alone and the electronics are set up so you can do this without turning off ESC.  I have only had one other car that I could do tricks comfortably in and that was a Honda NSX.

 

My Seal is for sale although it's more likely I will be giving it to my daughter in 2 weeks.  The insurance runs out on 27/12, if not sold I will renew it and give it to her.

 

My replacement is an ICE car (a PHEV) of about the same weight and claimed 0-100 in 5 seconds, it feels heavy, you wouldn't want to drive it spiritedly and it doesn't stop that well.  The Seal never feels heavy and its brakes are outstanding.

 

I haven't driven the Ioniq 5N but at almost double the price, I doubt it is twice the car.  Before the Seal I had a Porsche Taycan, currently 10 times the price of the Seal and about 20% better, though I would be extremely nervous about losing grip deliberately in that car.  They both have a hard, sporty drive although the Porsche is more comfortable with air-suspension and I grew to like the optional spaceship sound it could make.

 

To sum up, the Seal Performance is most definitely suitable for the sporty driver who likes to explore his cars limits.  I would recommend test driving one and push the handling a little bit, you'll be surprised.

2 hours ago, Sophon said:

 

The Hyundai Ioniq 5N weighs the same as the Seal performance.

 

In fact it's marginally heavier, which is quite something (2,205 kg). However I still stand by my comment that if I was looking for 'a sporty EV' I would go for the Ioniq 5N over the Seal Performance any day.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think it's easy to lose sight of the fact that ICE cars are noisy and it costs a lot of money to quieten them.  They also have an engine which doesn't have a flat power band and therefore needs a gearbox to address that shortcoming.  Noise & changing gears are not a feature, they are a drawback.

 

Ah, one man's negatives are another man's positives! There's 'good' noise and 'bad' noise, and changing gear to keep in the power band is a skill and a pleasure.

 

I have happy memories of standing just feet away from the track at Le Mans in the 90s just enjoying the sounds of different engines ... straight 6's, V8s, V12s etc coming past flat out.  

6 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Ah, one man's negatives are another man's positives! There's 'good' noise and 'bad' noise, and changing gear to keep in the power band is a skill and a pleasure.

 

I have happy memories of standing just feet away from the track at Le Mans in the 90s just enjoying the sounds of different engines ... straight 6's, V8s, V12s etc coming past flat out.  

Whereas, I'm the laziest driver in the world and just drive with the accelerator pedal.

Just a touch on the brake to activate 'auto-hold' when stopping on an incline.

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Ah, one man's negatives are another man's positives! There's 'good' noise and 'bad' noise, and changing gear to keep in the power band is a skill and a pleasure.

 

I have happy memories of standing just feet away from the track at Le Mans in the 90s just enjoying the sounds of different engines ... straight 6's, V8s, V12s etc coming past flat out.  

 

I've had a few V8's and I like the sound of one with a good exhaust set up, but given the choice, I prefer silence.

 

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

In fact it's marginally heavier, which is quite something (2,205 kg). However I still stand by my comment that if I was looking for 'a sporty EV' I would go for the Ioniq 5N over the Seal Performance any day.

 

I haven't driven the Ioniq 5N but I do think it is ugly, have you driven both that and the Seal Performance?

 

I wouldn't pay circa 3M THB for an Ioniq 5N no matter how good it is.  I would much prefer the Xiaomi SU7 which I'm sure we will ultimately get here and the Ultra may not be far off 3M THB and when it comes, I will most likely have one and try not to kill myself.

 

Under 2M baht, the only EV I would buy would be the Seal or Sealion Performance, the latter is a lot more comfortable suspension.

 

How a car looks is really important to me, I admire design in everything, houses, cars, electronics, household items.  I wouldn't buy an ugly car and I think it's a shame Mercedes got the EQ series of EV's so wrong.

 

I can't see myself ever buying a purely ICE car again.

5 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I personally can't think of any good reasons to buy an ICE car.

 

Five years ago I bought my wife a Suzuki Swift to learn to drive in. I bought her the car that she wanted.

 

The car design was already 10 years old at that point and they are still selling it today as 15 year old technology.

 

It was a truly appalling car to drive and we both suffered backache if we drove it for more than 30 minutes. 

 

After a year she passed her test and we eventually sold the car at a substantial loss (yes ICE cars do depreciate)

 

 

 

When wifey learnt to drive my insurance guy said ' make sure she has a licence first incase she has an accident'. So we got her licence, then she learnt to drive. 🙂

I just did my 5 year renewal yesterday but the learning was all in Thai, so some of the questions had me stumped, so 2 lovely transport ladies debated the answers and ticked the last 4 question boxes. No worries.

You have to love Thailand xxx

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

I wouldn't pay circa 3M THB for an Ioniq 5N no matter how good it is.  I would much prefer the Xiaomi SU7 which I'm sure we will ultimately get here and the Ultra may not be far off 3M THB and when it comes, I will most likely have one and try not to kill myself.

Harry, from Harry's Garage and Jeremy Clarkson talk about "Peak Car" and say it was about 2012 or thereabouts.

The smells, the sounds, the way the car accelerates and a whole lot more create a "feeling" and some say BEV's can't compete with ICE on that emotional level.

Their minds will never be changed.

I feel, actually a bit sorry for them because many will lament to eternity and some will turn into "angry old men", if they aren't already.

On the other hand, I get to be wonderous about the present tech and wildly optimistic about what the future will bring.

Given the choice...

Youtube Vid for reference:
 

 

5 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

I personally can't think of any good reasons to buy an ICE car.

The issue I have with EV, is that they have only been on the market for a short time, whereas the big branded ICE cars have been around for ages, their safety, reliability and quality has been proven and tested. 

 

Safety for me and my family, high priority. 

 

3 minutes ago, Tramboy said:

On the other hand, I get to be wonderous about the present tech and wildly optimistic about what the future will bring.

In the near future they wont let you own your EV car let alone drive it.

Depending upon your social credit score they may let you out of your 15 minute city for a short time  in a self driving spybot vehicle  whilst glued to TikTok  🤮

19 minutes ago, Tramboy said:

The smells, the sounds, the way the car accelerates and a whole lot more create a "feeling" and some say BEV's can't compete with ICE on that emotional level.

 

I'm not having sex with it.   It's a machine that gets me from point A to B.  And if in need to punch it, and get some power out of it, which does bring a smile to my face, then it's an EV for sure, and a better price point.  ICEV simply can't compete any more on any level ... IMHO

 

After my experiences & owning both 

 

19 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The issue I have with EV, is that they have only been on the market for a short time, whereas the big branded ICE cars have been around for ages, they are proven and tested. 

 

Safety for me and my family, high priority. 

 

 

I think CN has it down to a science now, and why I held off buying EV, aside from silly priced before 2022.  LFP battery chemistry will be the standard for quite sometime.   

 

5 - 8 - 10 yr / lifetime warranties now available for some make & models.  Again, ICEV falling behind.

 

Safety ... that's funny, as Toyota got caught submitting non production vehicles for better safety test ratings, than what comes off the line.  Won't mention their recall because tires were falling off.

 

VW had huge scandal, and had to recall, buy back 1000s of vehicles for decade false emission data, violating EPA standards in USA.

 

Feel free to trust them, I don't or any manufacturer.   So far, MG has been spot on with their info, if anything, better than their info supplied, WLTP range for instance, we get average 350 kms vs 320 kms, info they supplied.

48 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The issue I have with EV, is that they have only been on the market for a short time, whereas the big branded ICE cars have been around for ages, their safety, reliability and quality has been proven and tested. 

 

Safety for me and my family, high priority. 

 

Bight the bullet son. Once you try them you'll wonder how people (now days) buy ICE cars.

35 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

I'm not having sex with it.   It's a machine that gets me from point A to B.  And if in need to punch it, and get some power out of it, which does bring a smile to my face, then it's an EV for sure, and a better price point.  ICEV simply can't compete any more on any level ... IMHO

 

After my experiences & owning both 

 

 

I think CN has it down to a science now, and why I held off buying EV, aside from silly priced before 2022.  LFP battery chemistry will be the standard for quite sometime.   

 

5 - 8 - 10 yr / lifetime warranties now available for some make & models.  Again, ICEV falling behind.

 

Safety ... that's funny, as Toyota got caught submitting non production vehicles for better safety test ratings, than what comes off the line.  Won't mention their recall because tires were falling off.

 

VW had huge scandal, and had to recall, buy back 1000s of vehicles for decade false emission data, violating EPA standards in USA.

 

Feel free to trust them, I don't or any manufacturer.   So far, MG has been spot on with their info, if anything, better than their info supplied, WLTP range for instance, we get average 350 kms vs 320 kms, info they supplied.

Which Brand offers a 10 year warranty

I am aware that Toyota UK does offer a 10 year warranty but not aware of any brand in Thailand that offers a 10 year warranty

Up to 10 years / 100,000 mile Toyota warranty*

If your Toyota is under 10 years old or 100,000 miles, you’ll receive 12-months additional warranty with every qualifying service at an Approved Toyota dealer*.

https://www.toyota.co.uk/owners/toyota-warranty

59 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

1 hour ago, Tramboy said:

The smells, the sounds, the way the car accelerates and a whole lot more create a "feeling" and some say BEV's can't compete with ICE on that emotional level.

 

I'm not having sex with it.   It's a machine that gets me from point A to B.  And if in need to punch it, and get some power out of it, which does bring a smile to my face, then it's an EV for sure, and a better price point.  ICEV simply can't compete any more on any level ... IMHO

And there's the rub. Cars don't seem to give you the same emotional response as they might @BKKBike09, a Jeremy or Harry therefore your approach is 100% right. But to add, it's 100% right for you.

In bikes, some guys love the sound and smell of a 2-stroke. There's nothing like it in their world. To me it's noisy and smelly. We can both be "right" at the same time because the same 2 stroke evokes completely different feelings in each of us.

23 hours ago, Pib said:

Yea...I'd pay another Bt200K for the additional battery size, range, and other stuff the 7X Long Range offers over the 7X Standard.   Do I really need the extra range?...No, not really but I want it!

 

And in China the 2026 7X has been released with some upgrades over the 2025 7X sold in Thailand.....upgrades are a slightly larger battery, extra range, 900V vs 800V system, even faster DC charging (not that the 2025 model with its 420KWH charge rate is not fast enough already) more drive motor power, Infotainment system upgrade, etc.   When and if its destined  for Thailand and at what price if it arrives I couldn't say.

 

And maybe a refreshed/2026 BYD Sealion 7 will be enough to lure me away from the Zeekr 7X.....and once again when will the 2026 Sealion 7 arrive Thailand I couldn't say (probably late 2026 just before the next end of year Motor Expo)....hopefully it will have a larger battery and also have the Blade "Ver 2" battery vs current day Ver 1.

 

 

 

 

I really like the Zeekr 7X too, but the idea of buying something that’s already “old” because China already has the updated version bothers me a bit. The problem is that maybe next year, when the updated model finally arrives in Thailand, China will release another update again, haha… So for now I’ll wait a bit more.

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

Which Brand offers a 10 year warranty

I am aware that Toyota UK does offer a 10 year warranty but not aware of any brand in Thailand that offers a 10 year warranty

Up to 10 years / 100,000 mile Toyota warranty*

If your Toyota is under 10 years old or 100,000 miles, you’ll receive 12-months additional warranty with every qualifying service at an Approved Toyota dealer*.

https://www.toyota.co.uk/owners/toyota-warranty

MG with their lifetime warranty on a few models, with most consumer laws, ensuring they keep parts around for 10 yrs after model discontinued.   Beats the hell out of most 3 & 5 yr warranties, along with their own 8 yr warranty on battery.

 

Lifetime on battery, controller & motors for MG, and 3 other manufactures on selected models.   With different conditions when sold, some extended to new owner, some not.   Which I think you already knew.

On 4/21/2022 at 9:36 AM, Bandersnatch said:

Thailand Issues New Incentive Package for Electric Vehicle Industry

 

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/thailand-issues-new-incentive-package-for-electric-vehicle-industry/

 

The latest incentive package announced includes:

• A 40 percent reduction in import duty for completely built-up (CBU) of battery EVs priced up to 2 million baht ($61,805) and a 20 percent reduction for those priced between 2 million ($61,805) and 7 million baht (US$211,278) from 2022 to 2023; and
• Excise tax cut from 8 percent to 2 percent for imported EVs, which is predicted to add 7,000 EVs in the first year.

 

The package is a follow-up to earlier February subsidy programs to encourage EV production and purchases, which include:

• A 70,000 baht (US$2,111) subsidy is available per EV unit for passenger cars with 10 to 30 kWh battery capacity for completely knocked-down (CKD) and CBU units;
• A 150,000-baht (US$4,523) subsidy for each EV unit for passenger cars with more than 30kWh battery capacity for completely knocked-down (CKD) and CBU units;
• An 18,000-baht subsidy for electric motorcycles from eligible car producers between 2022-2023; and
• Exemption of import duties on important electrical components: batteries, traction motors, compressors for battery EVs, battery management systems, drive control units, and reduction gear between 2022-2025.

Why not make it complicated eh?  555

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

MG with their lifetime warranty on a few models, with most consumer laws, ensuring they keep parts around for 10 yrs after model discontinued.   Beats the hell out of most 3 & 5 yr warranties, along with their own 8 yr warranty on battery.

 

Lifetime on battery, controller & motors for MG, and 3 other manufactures on selected models.   With different conditions when sold, some extended to new owner, some not.   Which I think you already knew.

I am not aware of any consumer laws that state manfactures must keep parts for 10 years

Here is what AI states

The law does not require that car parts be kept for 10 years after the last car is sold.. The relevant law is the Civil and Commercial Code, Section 459, regarding guarantees .

Understanding the Auto Parts Law in Thailand

Warranty period for spare parts: Automobile manufacturers and spare parts sellers are responsible for guaranteeing the quality of spare parts as required by law.

Civil and Commercial Code Section 459: The law states that the seller is liable to the buyer for defects in the property sold. If there is a warranty, the parts must be able to function as specified by the manufacturer.

Consumer Protection Law: Consumer protection law provides protection to consumers in cases where products are of poor quality or do not meet the agreed-upon specifications.

Conclusion

Thai law does not require the retention of auto parts for 10 years after the last vehicle is sold. The relevant laws are the Civil and Commercial Code, Section 459, which holds manufacturers and sellers liable for defective products, and the Consumer Protection Act , which provides protection for consumers in cases of poor quality products.

1 hour ago, Will Iam Not said:

Why not make it complicated eh?  555

 

Turns out it wasn't complicated at all. The price for Electric Vehicles was shown by the dealer after the Incentive Package had been applied. Most people didn't even realise that there was an Incentive Package, they just paid the sticker price.

 

BTW do you know that you are replying to a comment from 2022?