Now that the new 10 year visa has been approved, will the annual Non-O retirement extension be discontinued?

[Nickelbeer]

20 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Thai Imm requires verified income, the embassies wouldn't provide that, which falls on our useless embassies, not the Thai Imm offices, who were simply doing there job.  

 

Would anyone want foreign embassies to submit false paperwork for people entering your home country ?  I think not.

 

With that & staying on topic .. I think these 'high income' visas may be a bit of a nightmare, with the financial paperwork.  

Yep, Thai Immigration is just doing their job, YET…..using an agent sweeps many of the financial requirements out the door. The beloved “brown envelope” solves all problems. The pretense that Thai Immigration is really concerned about “verified” income, is insulting to average intelligence.

[Hummin]

12 hours ago, Adumbration said:

Back before I was 50 years old I used to go to Bali and get triple entry tourist visas.  They were cancelled.  What makes you think the 800K or 65K a month Non-O wont be cancelled.

 

Clearly the government are now exploring new financial thresholds.  They may increase the 800K requirement...or they might just ditch the visa.

 

Expats on NON-O extension here (like myself) have built lives and families, but they think they have some tenure because of that.  Thai authorities could not care less about ripping those families apart.

They cancelled the triple entry tourist visas because they where abused by people who is not tourists, but living here, and some also made a living here by working as well. 
 

Abuse is the norm for tighten the rules, and now you have to prove you have enough to stay here, and I do not believe they will cancel something that actually works and serve it purpose. 
 

The only ones who make the chain brake now, is corrupt officers at emigration. 
 

If you are married its even half price just out of empathy 

Edited June 20, 2022 by Hummin

[Onerak]

10 hours ago, Tony125 said:

has over 5 million USD cash in at least 1  account

Hmm. Five million cash in a bank account. Never knew any business person holding so much cash in a bank account earning such a meagre return. Business people have access to credit in case of emergency. The last time I heard so much cash in a bank was Clinton's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/07/the-odd-history-of-why-the-clintons-keep-all-their-money-in-cash/

Edited June 20, 2022 by Onerak

[Onerak]

53 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said:

Yep, Thai Immigration is just doing their job, YET…..using an agent sweeps many of the financial requirements out the door. The beloved “brown envelope” solves all problems. The pretense that Thai Immigration is really concerned about “verified” income, is insulting to average intelligence.

Why they should not? The also have aspirations and dream. They also want to send their kids to fancy schools and buy fancy cars and go to european vacations. And keep their mia nois happys. They were unfortunates not to be born in a western country to earn dollars. I'm sure if they were born in a Western country they would have earned more than the average of the majority ethnicity. Median household income of Thais in USA is more than median household income of Whites. In fact median household incomes of any Asian ethnic group is higher than the majority whites). It is not their fault they they were not born in a Western country but fortunate to attain positions (by whatever means) where they can earn extra incomes to lead a life style of Westerners. Why be jealous?

Edited June 20, 2022 by Onerak

[ericthai]

8 hours ago, Adumbration said:

I notice this quote has a lot of likes.

 

Demonstrates the deluded sense of security NON-O retirement extension holders have regarding the long term future of this visa option.

Thai immigration keeps adding new visas, haven't seen any eliminated. Yes, qualifications and rules have changed for some visas over the past few decades but none have been removed.

 

I really dont get your conclusion that a new visa for a different category means that a non-o for retirement is going to be eliminated, where are your getting this idea from?  

 

Also, going to Bali to get a tourist visa every 90 days means you're not really a tourist and residing in Thailand on the wrong visa (which many people do). Thai immigration was aware of expats doing this and changed the rules, they didn't get rid of the multi-entry tourist visa they made rule changes that you need to apply in your home country.  Same with the visa exempt, they didn't get rid of the visa exempt they just made changes to the rules.  

[Adumbration]

8 hours ago, ericthai said:

Thai immigration keeps adding new visas, haven't seen any eliminated. Yes, qualifications and rules have changed for some visas over the past few decades but none have been removed.

 

 

The triple entry tourist visa was discontinued.

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

The triple entry tourist visa was discontinued.

Actually it and the 2 entry tourist visas were replaced by the multiple entry tourist visa (METV).

[ThailandRyan]

59 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

The triple entry tourist visa was discontinued.

And a new one put in its place doing the same thing but allowing multiple entries called the METV. You still think they are discontinuing in order to steer folks to the new 10 year visa don't you...hahaha

[newnative]

On 6/20/2022 at 8:25 AM, ThailandRyan said:

I could apply, but why.  50k versus 19k over 10 years in fees.  The 90 day is no issue now that the on-line system works.  As a retiree why would I want to work, my passive investments do the work for me even with the Stock Market and Crypto drop, the rental income does well, and the pension is an added bonus.  Medical costs are of course rising but the Visa the OP posted does not reduce them now does it.  Add in a ME Re-ntry permit for the 10 years and it puts my out of pocket at just under the 50K the New Visa would cost, so still ahead staying with my current visa........

     Me, too.  I think there are more than a few retirees who have come to your same conclusion.  Some tweaking is needed to make it more desirable.

[sandyf]

15 hours ago, Nickelbeer said:

Far better than the climate for retirees in the USA. The UK has the NHS. America has nothing. I could be safe living in the UK. Count your blessings.

Sorry it went over your head, I was actually referring to the climate.

[chalawaan]

Almost nobody qualifies for the 10 year visa. 

Ironically, those that do, could make better money, or afford better visas elsewhere.

It will be watered down greatly, or be granted with a few wads of green pushed at the right people.

I'm thinking the tedious annual hoops of the marriage visa is the best future option right now. 

Presently I'm not in country long enough to warrant more than tourist extensions,  so I get the best of both worlds.

Their new ten year visa has far stricter requirements than many more desirable destinations place on their similar options, so I wish them Chok Dee getting many takers!