Pointing fest! Locals furious as "foreign" company piling is bringing their houses down

[webfact]

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Locals near a temple on Route 304 between Chachoengsao and Kabinburi turned to media 77kaoded after being ignored by the local authority.

 

They are furious that piling work at a Taiwanese warehouse under construction is literally bringing their houses down.

 

The locals went on a pointing extravaganza as they showed subsidence and cracks allegedly caused by the piling, driving 387 poles into the ground.

 

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There were cracks to walls and floors going vertically and horizontally. 

 

The pointing left little doubt where the cracks were. 

 

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Not just that - the noise was unbearable. 

 

The local authority couldn't care less according to the locals who said they levy taxes then ignore justified complaints. 

 

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[jvs]

There is a dilemma here,how many of those cracks are really new and are those

cracks really there as a result of the piling next door or was the original construction

just waiting to crack?

Too find out it would take an engineer and some real investigating.

Could also be due to a lower ground water level.

You see,if you are pointing at something there are also three fingers pointing  towards you.

Edited June 24, 2022 by jvs

[DaLa]

Superficial cracks, just needs a bit of pointing.

 

[jvs]

1 minute ago, DaLa said:

Superficial cracks, just needs a bit of pointing.

 

Not the one in the top picture but that part could have been added on later and if not

constructed properly just waiting for an excuse to move.

 

[Excel]

1 minute ago, jvs said:

if not

constructed properly

That's higher bound of probability I suspect

[ThailandRyan]

Settling of the land underneath the houses because they did not truly allow compaction and or use pilings themself for support, but then I am no engineer.

[Myran]

"The pointing left little doubt where the cracks were."

 

Really classy to make fun of people whose homes are falling apart. Extremely unprofessional reporting.

[kotsak]

"foreign" company piling 

 

 

[giddyup]

They put a road at the rear of my village where jungle existed before. During the making of the road compactors were used as well as other heavy machinery, so every house (including mine) suffered some kind of subsistence damage, like cracking to walls and foundations. The local council who were responsible offered (no negotiation) 1000 baht per household to repair the damage. Suing the council would have proved expensive and fruitless.

[Bert got kinky]

 

That's a lot of pointing.

'Piles' of them it would seem.

 

[huangnon]

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Not just that - the noise was unbearable. 

 

The local authority couldn't care less according to the locals who said they levy taxes then ignore justified complaints. 

They do have a valid, erm.. point. (Getting me coat).

[sead]

Looks like a bad construction work. Like the blocks are all having same start and stop points

[spidermike007]

It is a rare day in Thailand when the locals are complaining about noise! 

 

I didn't think most Thais even hear noise. 

[Eaglekott]

As soon as they start to find lucky numbers in the cracks they will not complain any longer, just want more...

[kotsak]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is a rare day in Thailand when the locals are complaining about noise! 

 

I didn't think most Thais even hear noise. 

Unless money is to be made, similarly to when someone accidentally runs over a stray (that noone gives a hoot) in a soi and then the whole neighbourhood comes out claiming damages.

[asiaexpat]

The posts are interesting considering the degree of engineering eduction I suspect the posters have. Pile driving commonly causes shifts in the subterranean strata the can cause damage to nearby structures. In fact, from actual experience, my neighbors incurred damage to their houses when pilings were driven during the construction of a new house near theirs. I chose an alternate method to place pilings when building my house some 11 years ago to prevent any damage and the law suits that follow such damage. 

[seajae]

problem is more to do with the way the thai houses have been built, they dont do any soil testing before work begins to make sure slab and posts are correct depth/thickness, do not prepare the ground under the slabs so the foundations are always suspect, all work is done by self taught lackies never tradesman, cheap materials are used, ratios of cement, sand etc are all guess work, walls are one brick in width then rendered on each side, extensions are not locked into the existing building plus the slabs are usually just poured straigh onto the ground and they wonder why the walls etc start to crack. Looking at the pics you can see it is where there are joins to either an existing wall, next to a concrete posts etc, all look like the work was not done very well in the first place

[natway09]

With that amount of piling required they should be looking at an alternative form of construction

anyway. The land is obviously pretty hard, hence the percussion waves so there are at least two better ways to pile to avoid this

[it is what it is]

12 hours ago, jvs said:

Not the one in the top picture but that part could have been added on later and if not

constructed properly just waiting for an excuse to move.

 

i think he was joking ????

[it is what it is]

4 hours ago, seajae said:

problem is more to do with the way the thai houses have been built, they dont do any soil testing before work begins to make sure slab and posts are correct depth/thickness, do not prepare the ground under the slabs so the foundations are always suspect, all work is done by self taught lackies never tradesman, cheap materials are used, ratios of cement, sand etc are all guess work, walls are one brick in width then rendered on each side, extensions are not locked into the existing building plus the slabs are usually just poured straigh onto the ground and they wonder why the walls etc start to crack. Looking at the pics you can see it is where there are joins to either an existing wall, next to a concrete posts etc, all look like the work was not done very well in the first place

 

i would be surprised if the building inspectors were up to the job, and even more surprised if enforcement exists... assuming building inspection is required. not being anti-thai, just my experience from living here.

[Scott Tracy]

The vertical cracks are due to the brickwork against a concrete column and not being tied in. That seems prevalent...

[it is what it is]

49 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

The vertical cracks are due to the brickwork against a concrete column and not being tied in. That seems prevalent...

 

exactly, basic construction technique seen as far back the maya's and egyptians, didn't make it to thailand it seems.

[bendejo]

 

oooo, pointing fetish porn!

 

1 hour ago, it is what it is said:

exactly, basic construction technique seen as far back the maya's and egyptians, didn't make it to thailand it seems.

That's why there are no pyramids here. 

 

 

[Willy Wombat]

I thinks they’re actually pointing at the ghastly paint colour of the walls.

[hotchilli]

Poor construction methods used in the homes aggravated by the disturbance of piling...

 

[Thunglom]

if the sol is sandy around there (which I think it is) , then pile-driving is likely to liquify the ground under other buildings causing subsidence.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 6/24/2022 at 11:21 AM, webfact said:

and cracks allegedly caused by the piling,

I'm not surprised. 

 

Construction workers pound concrete pylons into the ground, the force and impact shakes the ground for many meters. 

 

Do like they do in Australia, drill a pier hole and fill in with concrete. 

The drill is not harmful, it won't destroy surrounding dwellings. 

It's also neighbour friendly. 

Geeze, I remember when I first arrived in Pattaya, staying in my apartment, next plot they were driving these concrete pylons in for weeks, had to spend most of the day in the bars, probably why my liver is not doing too well these days. 

 

Get with the times people. 

Edited June 28, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST

[overherebc]

On 6/27/2022 at 2:00 AM, Thunglom said:

if the sol is sandy around there (which I think it is) , then pile-driving is likely to liquify the ground under other buildings causing subsidence.

Thixotropic is the word.

[Thunglom]

13 hours ago, overherebc said:

Thixotropic is the word.

...and very likely to cause fractures and subsidence.