Thai air force scrambles fighters after alleged incursion by Myanmar aircraft

[Tarteso]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

an air strike against anti-government rebel positions

They meant Killing these poor people fighting for food and freedom with Migs ????

[StevieAus]

3 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Er, Cambodia is on the east of Thailand, Myanmar on the west...........

As well as lacking in knowledge of geography obviously has never heard of radar and controlled airspace.

[sanuk711]

13 hours ago, Wiggy said:

Myanmar has Migs? I didn’t know they had upgraded from the Gypsy Moth.

Myanmar has Mig's

Myanmar has Submarines

Myanmar has a larger Army then Thailand....

 

Looking at Thailand's neighbors---Lao's communist - Cambo -owned by China--Malaysia Muslim border insurgence for years

Myanmar-probably the most unstable country in Asia. -Indonesia--largest Muslim country in the world.

 

NO ONE IS SAYING THEIR GOING TO BE INVADED--but Maybe its not that laughable, when Thailand announce they want to buy a Helicopter , tanks or a Sub.

 

What is the rank of Myanmar Army in the world?

With half a million soldiers, at least on paper, Myanmar has the world's 38th strongest military,

according to Global Fire Power, which ranks 140 nations on their capability to wage war.

[Srikcir]

The Mig 29 is a formable fighter vs F-16 in a "one circle engagement." F-16 favors a "two circle engagement." But two F-16's vs one Mig 29 in visual range (vs BVR), the Mig 29 is dead no matter the manner of engagement.

 

[vandeventer]

47 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Myanmar has Mig's

Myanmar has Submarines

Myanmar has a larger Army then Thailand....

 

Looking at Thailand's neighbors---Lao's communist - Cambo -owned by China--Malaysia Muslim border insurgence for years

Myanmar-probably the most unstable country in Asia. -Indonesia--largest Muslim country in the world.

 

NO ONE IS SAYING THEIR GOING TO BE INVADED--but Maybe its not that laughable, when Thailand announce they want to buy a Helicopter , tanks or a Sub.

 

What is the rank of Myanmar Army in the world?

With half a million soldiers, at least on paper, Myanmar has the world's 38th strongest military,

according to Global Fire Power, which ranks 140 nations on their capability to wage war.

So Burma has a lot of m29's an many subs. a larger army, does it mean Thailand should buy the F-35's? Your damn right it does . But don't get a loan from China as they will own us.

Edited July 1, 2022 by vandeventer

[sanuk711]

2 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The Mig 29 is a formable fighter vs F-16 in a "one circle engagement." F-16 favors a "two circle engagement." But two F-16's vs one Mig 29 in visual range (vs BVR), the Mig 29 is dead no matter the manner of engagement.

I think the F-16 that Thailand have--are from the 80s Srikcir--- their top aircraft are the 12 JAS-39 Gripen fighter jets

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, Kenneth White said:

The submarine is a vintage diesel powered model and the F-35 are delivered with an option for two jet engines.

Thai F-35's will be easily shot down by the MIG in a dogfight because they won't have the advanced weapons systems that make them so deadly from a distance.

 

Just before anyone chimes in, the Thais have already said they will not be buying the weapons systems themselves. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

54 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Myanmar has Mig's

Myanmar has Submarines

Myanmar has a larger Army then Thailand....

 

Looking at Thailand's neighbors---Lao's communist - Cambo -owned by China--Malaysia Muslim border insurgence for years

Myanmar-probably the most unstable country in Asia. -Indonesia--largest Muslim country in the world.

 

NO ONE IS SAYING THEIR GOING TO BE INVADED--but Maybe its not that laughable, when Thailand announce they want to buy a Helicopter , tanks or a Sub.

 

What is the rank of Myanmar Army in the world?

With half a million soldiers, at least on paper, Myanmar has the world's 38th strongest military,

according to Global Fire Power, which ranks 140 nations on their capability to wage war.

You forgot Vietnam, the strongest in the region with vast military experience against China and the Yanks. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, Tarteso said:

They meant Killing these poor people fighting for food and freedom with Migs ????

Straight out of the Good 'Ol US of A playbook.

 

Bomb some freedom into them.

 

 

Git some. 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

is Thailand now at war with Cambodia

 

this whole thing is stupid nonsense - Thailand has no clue who or what flys over their border

 

oh dear

1.  What has Cambodia got to do with this?

2. Did you miss the bit about scrambling jets?  Why would they do that if they have no clue who is flying over their border?

 

3.  Oh dear.

[Andycoops]

So they didn't know it was coming until it was already over the border, tut tut.

No doubt the defence minister will be pulled up by his lanyards for a breach of national security he likes to preach on about at every given opportunity to keep the emergency decree in place.

Another example of how ineffective it actually is apart from being used to prosecute opposition to his crumbling regime.

 

[KhunBENQ]

4 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Er, Cambodia is on the east of Thailand, Myanmar on the west...........

Yes, some farangs have no clue of geography. Good they are not in the air force ????

Edited July 1, 2022 by KhunBENQ

[MyFriend You]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

"Then one day he was shootin up some food, when up from the ground came a bubblin crude, Oil that is, Texas T"

[MyFriend You]

24 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

You forgot Vietnam, the strongest in the region with vast military experience against China and the Yanks. 

and the French, and the Japanese...........but seriously, no one will ever know how many died on both sides of the border with all the skirmishes they have had with China since 1980, and it was mostly artillery and ground forces hand to hand.

[Burma Bill]

15 hours ago, Wiggy said:

I didn’t know they had upgraded from the Gypsy Moth. 

Unfortunately, yes!

 

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said that the RTAF also instructed its attaché, based at the Thai embassy in Myanmar, to warn their Myanmar counterpart about the alleged intrusion and not to repeat the incident.

Get orfff moi land !

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Wow, I bet Somchai wasn't happy, having to drop his egg noodles and run to the F-16. ????

 

Maybe he took a doggy bag. ????

 

Mamma cup will travel.

[Bernietravelling]

5 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

The shooting at the rebels in Myanmar is ok the problem is when you are flying that high international borders get hard to see.  I am surprised that this does not happen more often.

 

I think the last  thing that the junta wants is to give Thais a reason to start aiding the rebels.

Heaven forbid that they actually hit a Thai with the wild shots.

They won’t start aiding the rebels !
 

There is still an open invoice with the Karen from Myanmar, the Ratchaburi terrorist attack :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/pmextra/jan00/24/hostage.htm

[DualSportBiker]

17 minutes ago, Bernietravelling said:

They won’t start aiding the rebels !
 

There is still an open invoice with the Karen from Myanmar, the Ratchaburi terrorist attack :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/pmextra/jan00/24/hostage.htm

They certainly used to: https://www.irrawaddy.com/opinion/guest-column/thailands-special-envoy-risks-becoming-a-tool-of-myanmar-junta.html

[anchadian]

Sickening:

 

PM Prayut said today that the incursion into Thai airspace of a Myanmar MiG-29 jet, which flew over Tak province yesterday, is not a big deal, noting that the Myanmar military has already offered an apology and that the two countries enjoy good relations.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiPBSWorld/status/1542745788329369600

 

Edited July 1, 2022 by anchadian

[ThailandRyan]

No problems at all, the people whose vehicles were strafed needed the extra ventilation their vehicles were given

[Sydebolle]

The Myanmar air force again - am I glad that the Thai government in its endless wisdom ordered those sub-marines ..........

[natway09]

Just to correct some of the comments on here as believe me, it is no joking matter if you live here as I do.

Dead bodies are being left by the river for the Thais to give a decent cremation.

Tha Government has taken in 400 + refugees yesterday & given access to medical care, many of whom are injured by Burmese Junta bombs delivered by Chinese supplied drones.

Ordinance we fired by same into Thailand yesterday.

I cannot confirm but told China had supplied two Helicopter gun ships to help the Burmese Junta in the fight.

Thai air force flew yesterday for many hours along the border & again today.

Went to Mae Sot today where a bomb went off, not 500 yards from the border.

Thai Army is on full alert & orders have been issued to protect Thai borders in the event any further incursions by the Burmese Junta forces.

Can update if anybody interested

[snowyy73]

in the early 90's we installed radar systems for RTAF most of the time the guys in the OPs room were looking at porn...probably all blind by now!!

[DualSportBiker]

26 minutes ago, snowyy73 said:

in the early 90's we installed radar systems for RTAF most of the time the guys in the OPs room were looking at porn...probably all blind by now!!

I know a guy who was on that project, ex-USAF. He told me that the operators were told not to f&*k with the AC, but would bring their girlfriends in who would then complain it was too cold. Constant need to replace fried circuits due to heat-overload. 

[Butterflyman]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You missed the twitter video posted above then? The jets were low and local Thai's had to run for cover, damage to trucks and roads etc

Bullet holes look like fired from a 22 hand gun, not from 30mm cannon from a mig 29. Also plane almost above car when it fired, so how were the holes in the side of the car? 

[Walker88]

4 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

Unfortunately, yes!

 

What they have mostly is Russian equipment, which hasn't exactly distinguished itself in Ukraine.

 

The original 10 MiG-29s were bought from Russia in 2001 by SPDC. The systems were upgraded in 2017, though overall the aircraft are a generation behind the world's latest. They have at least two dozen 29s now, though some are trainers. They have Russian Mi-24 attack helicopters and Mi-17s, which are used to ferry generals around. They may have a few ballistic missiles supplied by North Korea, and previously SPDC was in talks with North Korea to provide assistance on Myanmar developing its own atomic bomb. Overall their equipment is poorly maintained by poorly trained techs.

 

The Tatmadaw can produce a good looking bunch of soldiers on Army Day in March, but the majority of their forces are poorly trained and poorly equipped. When the Saffron revolution took place in 2007, troops from rural regions were trucked into Yangon. Most of those troops were wearing sandals and were gobsmacked by the 'modern' city of Yangon. They carry H&K G3 (knockoffs) assault rifles made locally, though some still carry Enfield 404s. Generally they are not given too many rounds, because their higher ups don't really trust them. They rely heavily on asymmetrical warfare, which is to say they go after unarmed civilians. When faced with motivated fighters like the Kachin, they tend not to fare well.

 

In rural areas, most are not supplied well, and rely heavily on theft from villagers for food and water. They still simply seize villagers for porter work, or worse, to clear mine fields that the Kachin, Shan State Army, Wa or Kokang might have laid.

[Canuckluck]

You don't mess with the Clampett's

[aussiexpat]

14 hours ago, tgw said:

link to video of the 2 Myanmar MiGs' attack on Thai territory and people:

 

Is this video supposed to be showing bullet holes in the car...but a MiG 29 have cannons which fire:

 

High effective explosive charge (RDX+Al), providing for secondary incendiary effect

 

High reliability in combat conditions burst of 4-5 rounds in enough for defeating enemy aircraft during close air combat

 

https://www.yugoimport.com/en/proizvodi/ammunition-30mm-x-165-aircraft-gun-30mm-gsh-301

 

Edited July 1, 2022 by aussiexpat

[radiochaser]

4 hours ago, Butterflyman said:

Bullet holes look like fired from a 22 hand gun, not from 30mm cannon from a mig 29. Also plane almost above car when it fired, so how were the holes in the side of the car? 

Possibly shrapnel from HE / HEI 30mm rounds, not from direct hits from the HE rounds.  Explosive rounds can also cause secondary shrapnel effects from hitting ground, causing rocks to be the secondary shrapnel, or any other hard object that becomes a projectile, which are also lethal.