baboon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, transam said: Yes, still here waiting for your evidence about far right members... Go for it, I would e very interested as to who......???? Wait away... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, baboon said: Wait away... Thank you, so your far-right members were false, a wind-up....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 hours ago, hotandsticky said: C'mon, you are not THAT naïve surely? If you think that the police are more beholden to the leader of the opposition than to the leader of the government that is in charge of them and provides the vast majority of their funding, then I don't think I'm the naive one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, transam said: Thank you, so your far-right members were false, a wind-up....???? Now go back and read what I actually wrote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, baboon said: Now go back and read what I actually wrote. It's OK, cleared up now.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, transam said: It's OK, cleared up now.....???? Not your day, is it? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, baboon said: Not your day, is it? It is now......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 boris has a lot of grass roots support despite his probs and the torys will have trouble getting back in ..they are now planning an ethnic PM and that wont fly with white voters so see the torys imploding at next election voters wont vote for a pakistani PM in any numbers so theyre doomed ..nigel farage could also make a comeback with brexit party to thwart heseltine the remainer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said: boris has a lot of grass roots support despite his probs and the torys will have trouble getting back in ..they are now planning an ethnic PM and that wont fly with white voters so see the torys imploding at next election voters wont vote for a pakistani PM in any numbers so theyre doomed ..nigel farage could also make a comeback with brexit party to thwart heseltine the remainer Very funny, but daft......???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, transam said: Very funny, but daft......???? https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1637975/Boris-Johnson-latest-Conservative-leadership-election-Tory-Prime-Minister-selection-vn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/1wcRrmqg boris supporters Edited July 12, 2022 by 3NUMBAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1637975/Boris-Johnson-latest-Conservative-leadership-election-Tory-Prime-Minister-selection-vn I wouldn't believe everything that you read in the left bias, woke MSM???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said: boris has a lot of grass roots support despite his probs and the torys will have trouble getting back in ..they are now planning an ethnic PM and that wont fly with white voters so see the torys imploding at next election voters wont vote for a pakistani PM in any numbers so theyre doomed ..nigel farage could also make a comeback with brexit party to thwart heseltine the remainer All the people standing are British. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: All the people standing are British. What does it matter if you live in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: boris has a lot of grass roots support despite his probs and the torys will have trouble getting back in ..they are now planning an ethnic PM and that wont fly with white voters so see the torys imploding at next election voters wont vote for a pakistani PM in any numbers so theyre doomed ..nigel farage could also make a comeback with brexit party to thwart heseltine the remainer I’m not sure how you conclude what Tory plans are for the replacement PM. Candidates put themselves forward, each needs at least 20 Tory MP nominators and only after the Parliamentary Party whittle down the field do the rank and file party members get their say. Every single candidate has already been elected to office by Tory voters. But I do agree, the Tories are facing a tough challenge at the next election. Inflation, cost of living crisis, NHS, Policing, law and order, energy prices, Public Transport, Welfare and Care services, housing and homelessness, collapse in consumer confidence and the continuing problems caused by Brexit. Whoever gets the post, they need to start dealing with the problems ordinary voters are facing. This is going to be difficult with such clear divisions in the Tory party and no Candidate for PM covers the gaping divide between the ERG and the rest. Edited July 12, 2022 by Chomper Higgot 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: What does it matter if you live in Thailand. A: I don’t. B: None of the candidates standing is from Pakistan. They are all british. To say otherwise is bigotry in action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 9:22 AM, Excel said: You have to remember that MM has been a supporter of that criminal Boris all along so hence anybody that condones such behaviour will, just like Boris, come up with all sorts of incorrect or even downright imaginative replies to support that outgoing liar. However when you think of all those who supported Boris now throwing their hats into the ring for the PMs job will this make any difference to the country ? I doubt it as replacing one crook with another from his gang will just be more of the same unfortunately. Ben Wallace has decided it is not for him and Penny Mordant as yet has not declared whether she is running and they are the only two who are honourable enough to hold that position IMHO. As for the rest well more heartbreak for the country I'm afraid irrespective of who wins the race. Well I am glad that Penny Mordant is in the running and according to the bookies, then as of now neck and neck with Sunak. Now of course the MPs could get together to ensure she does not reach the final two but hopefully that will not be the case and once it goes to rank and file Tories to vote I have no doubt she will win quite resoundingly. As I said before she at least is an honorable one compared to many of the others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 4:15 AM, Kwasaki said: Well soon after getting elected by a big majority with the pandemic costs and now supporting costs of consumer bills and funding a war instead of your own population what do you expect him to do go to the money tree forest. As I've explained in a previous post. On more than one occasion, when questioned on the effect of the Pandemic, Johnson said it was business as usual and his projects would continue. If he'd said things would have to be re-visited, I'm sure most people would have understood but Boris being Boris, he lied again. The Northern section of HS2 has already been postponed, as has the upgrading of rail links between several major Northern cities. More relevantly, there's about as much chance of 40 new hospitals being built before 2030 as there is of the sky falling in. Given that these matters were manifesto pledges - the reasons many voted Conservative, I expect them to be fulfilled. I think that all politicians, regardless of their flavour should be hauled over the coals for reneging on election promises - its a form of deception. Johson seem to think that if he says something, its done and he can move on. The fact that it never gets done is irrelevant to him - we're all expected to believe its so. So in answer to your question - I expect him, and any other politician to abide by what they say. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 7:59 PM, Mac Mickmanus said: A quick websearch and you can find out that progress is under way in building new hospitals Have you checked how many of those were in the 40 new projects he promised, how many were already underway and how many of the ones you refer to are actually underway - not just at the planning stage? Believe me, he is not delivering on his promises. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) On 7/10/2022 at 7:50 PM, Mac Mickmanus said: From 2020 "Given the scale of spending needed to support the economy, chancellor Rishi Sunak has said he will set out new fiscal rules to replace those from the 2019 manifesto. The existing rules belong to a pre-pandemic era and the government is unlikely to be criticised for ditching them" https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/even-pandemic-delivering-manifestos-still-matters We are talking about Boris's promises. I know what I heard him say but I'm not prepared to spend hours searching for footage. If you choose to disagree that's up to you. I also heard him say there were no parties and no rules were broken. Then there's the one about him not knowing a minister he promoted had groped other ministers when he promoted him. That's just 2 lies - he's made a career of lying since way before he was prime minister. When you're Googling for information to come back at me with - take a little time to also do a search for 'Boris Johnson, Lies'. Edited July 12, 2022 by KhaoYai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 17 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said: If you think that the police are more beholden to the leader of the opposition than to the leader of the government that is in charge of them and provides the vast majority of their funding, then I don't think I'm the naive one. Correct, I didn't say that, I don't think that - but good effort at trying to put words in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Labour failed again, vote of no confidence thrown out.......???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, transam said: Labour failed again, vote of no confidence thrown out.......???? And so the corruption continues unabated. What were the CONs so scared of? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, transam said: Labour failed again, vote of no confidence thrown out.......???? Here are the facts as to what happened in this case. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/12/labour-to-call-for-confidence-vote-in-boris-johnson?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other tories running scared. Edited July 13, 2022 by Bluespunk 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 13 hours ago, KhaoYai said: As I've explained in a previous post. On more than one occasion, when questioned on the effect of the Pandemic, Johnson said it was business as usual and his projects would continue. If he'd said things would have to be re-visited, I'm sure most people would have understood but Boris being Boris, he lied again. The Northern section of HS2 has already been postponed, as has the upgrading of rail links between several major Northern cities. More relevantly, there's about as much chance of 40 new hospitals being built before 2030 as there is of the sky falling in. Given that these matters were manifesto pledges - the reasons many voted Conservative, I expect them to be fulfilled. I think that all politicians, regardless of their flavour should be hauled over the coals for reneging on election promises - its a form of deception. Johson seem to think that if he says something, its done and he can move on. The fact that it never gets done is irrelevant to him - we're all expected to believe its so. So in answer to your question - I expect him, and any other politician to abide by what they say. When you say a politician should abide by what they say. It reminds me of a quote made by someone who I forget. " When things go wrong how can anyone believe what any politician says when you know if you were in his place you would lie ". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, transam said: Labour failed again, vote of no confidence thrown out.......???? It’s not a fail. It forced the Tories to back a PM the nation wants rid of. It’s going to make good campaign fodder as even more dirt on Johnson comes out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 An off-topic troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Now look chap's, it doesn't matter what you anti-Tory folk say, Boris is still in control of the country, the vote of confidence fail put another dent in Labours socialist ego.. It seems Labour are champing at the bit because Boris has been put on the shelf, but what Labour do not realise is that his replacement will bring a breath of fresh air back into the Tory Party for the electorate, remember, they showed in supporting the blues at the last general election. And to be fair, the opposition do not have a clue, just watch this vid, oh and just look who is on the front bench in the intro, classic....???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mavideol Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, bannork said: and no IF's and no BUT's 555 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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