Woman shoots her abusive boyfriend dead - shop employee grabs the gun before she can kill herself

[webfact]

Picture: Sanook

 

Khu Khot police in Lam Lukka, Pathum Thani were called after a shooting early yesterday morning in front of a shop selling plastic goods.

 

Dead at the scene was 40 year old Supornchai who had been shot four times in the abdomen, ribs and chest by a 9mm gun, reported Sanook.

 

The shooter was his girlfriend Tharinya, also 40. A CZ gun was taken into evidence.

 

Noi, 27, a Laotian worker at the shop said that her boss had just made merit and was walking back in the store when a woman whom she recognised as a night cashier arrived and started shooting.

 

She said "don't shoot" but the assailant continued to fire into his body.

 

Picture: Sanook

 

Tharinya said she had been together with the deceased for 4 years, they had no children and had not registered a marriage.

 

They had frequent arguments and she claimed he often beat her and grabbed her throat. Stress built up over time until he ordered her out of the house.

 

She went to live elsewhere and the bitter disputes continued over the phone until he dared her to come and get him.

 

She said she bought the weapon on the internet and intended to shoot herself too before the store employee grabbed the gun from her and stopped her.

 

Pol Capt Ek-Amorn Seesan is taking witness statements and studying CCTV to wrap up the case.

 

 

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[ChrisY1]

I probably shouldn't say well done girl.....but there are some real mean Thai men out there who likely deserve some payback.

Personal self defence is fine!

[sammieuk1]

Looks like a woman you never want to get involved with. note to self cut off internet for the Mrs ????

[steven100]

14 minutes ago, webfact said:

She said "don't shoot" but the assailant continued to fire into his body

you made the correct decision girly ...  

now '  are you interested in more work .....    Lol

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

I probably shouldn't say well done girl.....but there are some real mean Thai men out there who likely deserve some payback.

Personal self defence is fine!

Buying a gun, travelling to find a person and then shooting them dead , is NOT self defence .

   Seems like she murdered him , this isn't a case of self defence, its murder 

[Gottfrid]

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Buying a gun, travelling to find a person and then shooting them dead , is NOT self defence .

   Seems like she murdered him , this isn't a case of self defence, its murder 

Sure, it is. You are 100 % right. However, one might think that it was a justified one, if the things she are saying is true.

[BritManToo]

14 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure, it is. You are 100 % right. However, one might think that it was a justified one, if the things she are saying is true.

Women always say those things. 'she said' is no excuse for murder. 

[bradiston]

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Buying a gun, travelling to find a person and then shooting them dead , is NOT self defence .

   Seems like she murdered him , this isn't a case of self defence, its murder 

He beats her up regularly, then dares her to do something about it. She does. He gets what he deserves. She gets off, or lightly. Her defense? She was seriously abused over time, and provoked. You don't bash up women and walk. End of.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, bradiston said:

He beats her up regularly, then dares her to do something about it. She does. He gets what he deserves. She gets off, or lightly. Her defense? She was seriously abused over time, and provoked. You don't bash up women and walk. End of.

Those were her claims and they might be exaggerated or untrue .

Besides, even if another person does hit you, that doesn't give you the right to go and buy a gun and shoot the other person dead .

   One can understand when its self defence, but this Woman went to meet him with the sole, intention of killing him .

       Thats murder 

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, bradiston said:

He beats her up regularly, then dares her to do something about it. She does. He gets what he deserves. She gets off, or lightly. Her defense? She was seriously abused over time, and provoked. You don't bash up women and walk. End of.

Never understood this line of thinking.

If somebody beat me up, I'd report them to the police and never see them again. Lots of posters on this forum appear to hate other men.

[bradiston]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Those were her claims and they might be exaggerated or untrue .

Besides, even if another person does hit you, that doesn't give you the right to go and buy a gun and shoot the other person dead .

   One can understand when its self defence, but this Woman went to meet him with the sole, intention of killing him .

       Thats murder 

If you're prepared to face the consequences I think shooting your assailant dead is one course of action, not legitimate maybe in the legal sense, but she probably wasn't thinking about that. It was reported by a third party though, and it seems the woman had planned to blow her own brains out immediately afterwards, but was prevented from doing so, so murder/suicide seems to have been the objective. A very desperate woman indeed. How many would undertake such a course of action if not driven to it? A crime of passion, though no defence, is still mitigation. Let it stand as a warning to men everywhere. I'll swing for it, by God I will!

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, bradiston said:

It was reported by a third party though, and it seems the woman had planned to blow her own brains out immediately afterwards, but was prevented from doing so, so murder/suicide seems to have been the objective.

Again, if you believe what she says though .

She did go and buy a gun and shoot someone dead .

She had no need to do that .

She had no need to talk to him on the phone or ever had any contact with him again .

   She bought a gun and killed a person 

[Bruno123]

6 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

I probably shouldn't say well done girl.....but there are some real mean Thai men out there who likely deserve some payback.

Personal self defence is fine!

Disgusting. How can it be personal self defence? You just make up a scenario and then condemn him with it? A truly sick and disgusting comment.

[mikeymike100]

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure, it is. You are 100 % right. However, one might think that it was a justified one, if the things she are saying is true.

Are you suggesting that murder can be justified?

[Bruno123]

36 minutes ago, bradiston said:

He beats her up regularly, then dares her to do something about it. She does. He gets what he deserves. She gets off, or lightly. Her defense? She was seriously abused over time, and provoked. You don't bash up women and walk. End of.

That's what she said and a fool would believe without even a modicum of evidence.

[Bruno123]

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure, it is. You are 100 % right. However, one might think that it was a justified one, if the things she are saying is true.

Even if what she said is true.... she condemned herself with her own words.

 

She wasn't even living with him, so there could have been no violence on his part. She admitted that he requested her to leave his house. If he was abusing her; she would be the one to want to leave.

The likelihood is that she was the aggressor, hence she being the one that went to his place to attack him.

Try to not just jump on any bandwagon that comes along. Use your critical brain at least sometimes.

[bradiston]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Again, if you believe what she says though .

She did go and buy a gun and shoot someone dead .

She had no need to do that .

She had no need to talk to him on the phone or ever had any contact with him again .

   She bought a gun and killed a person 

I don't think you understand what being a victim of domestic abuse entails. Were mostly blokes on this forum. We don't experience the world as women. And we only have the Lao lady's testimony to go on. She deserves a medal. She saved the woman's life.

 

I remember getting called a "mangina", on this very forum, a word I find so offensive as to warrant at least a cap in the head, when I suggested the Thai woman who got badly bashed up and robbed on the New York subway late at night was not responsible for her beating up by dint of her attire and the fact she was out on her own late at night. You might think otherwise, but until women are free to dress how they like, when they like and where they like, without being blamed for any ensuing violence against them, well, what price "civilisation"? Men are the problem, not women.

[sanuk711]

30 minutes ago, bradiston said:

A very desperate woman indeed

Desperate why ?---- They had parted, she was living somewhere else -And according to the person you quote phoning him with threats .

It was only a 4 year relationship, no children involved---& she was just 27 -hardly wasted her life with him.

 

How many people on here do you think had a half their lifetime relationship and lost so much through it.

 

 

IF he beat her...then he is less then a person... but even that isn't the death penalty anywhere. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

I don't think you understand what being a victim of domestic abuse entails. Were mostly blokes on this forum. We don't experience the world as women. And we only have the Lao lady's testimony to go on. She deserves a medal. She saved the woman's life.

 

I remember getting called a "mangina", on this very forum, a word I find so offensive as to warrant at least a cap in the head, when I suggested the Thai woman who got badly bashed up and robbed on the New York subway late at night was not responsible for her beating up by dint of her attire and the fact she was out on her own late at night. You might think otherwise, but until women are free to dress how they like, when they like and where they like, without being blamed for any ensuing violence against them, well, what price "civilisation"? Men are the problem, not women.

New York Subways and woman wearing skimpy  clothes are besides the point .

That is not the thread topic or subject .

   If this woman had been a victim of domestic abuse , lets just say she was , that doesn't give her the right to go and buy a gun and kill the guy .

   They were not even living together at the time, so there was no reason for her to see him again .

  Another possibility is that he finished the relationship  with her , told her to leave his apartment and she went and got a gun and murdered him .

   The "domestic abuse" and "Was going to kill myself" may be her trying to get off murder charges 

[bradiston]

2 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Desperate why ?---- They had parted, she was living somewhere else -And according to the person you quote phoning him with threats .

It was only a 4 year relationship, no children involved---& she was just 27 -hardly wasted her life with him.

 

How many people on here do you think had a half their lifetime relationship and lost so much through it.

 

 

IF he beat her...then he is less then a person... but even that isn't the death penalty anywhere. 

Ok, so she gets beaten up regularly and then thrown out of the house. How would you feel? Who knows what contribution she made to the upkeep, or why she was the one who had to leave. We don't know how things panned out over the ensuing months.

[bradiston]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

New York Subways and woman wearing skimpy  clothes are besides the point .

That is not the thread topic or subject .

   If this woman had been a victim of domestic abuse , lets just say she was , that doesn't give her the right to go and buy a gun and kill the guy .

   They were not even living together at the time, so there was no reason for her to see him again .

  Another possibility is that he finished the relationship  with her , told her to leave his apartment and she went and got a gun and murdered him .

   The "domestic abuse" and "Was going to kill myself" may be her trying to get off murder charges 

What motive could she have had then? All of a sudden it's the guy who's the victim of an unwarranted attack. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Ok, so she gets beaten up regularly and then thrown out of the house. How would you feel? Who knows what contribution she made to the upkeep, or why she was the one who had to leave. We don't know how things panned out over the ensuing months.

I wouldnt feel like buying a gun and going to kill the other person .

It would be an unpleasant situation for her , but that wouldn't make it acceptable to kill someone .

  Listen to yourself : You are saying that its wrong to beat someone up , but someone killing another person is OK .

Domestic abuse - Wrong

Murder- Acceptable 

[law ling]

Who knows if:

1. She really intended to suicide afterwards, or

2. If the prior abuse (now long ended) was so bad to justify this long-after-the-event revenge/pay-back, or

3. If the guy had really dared her to come over and bring it on ...

 

... just sounds like they could be a bunch of hastily made-up excuses to garner pity or absolve responsibility.

 

Looks like a planned murder - and this country still has the death penalty.

 

A sad case. RIP to the victim.

[pagallim]

What I find odd in this case is that the guy had previously ordered the woman to leave his house which she did and was living elsewhere.   It seems the norm that males threaten females if they leave them, not if they stay.   Maybe there was another reason she went after him having been ditched.

[law ling]

Two things to take from this:

 

1. Don't make enemies (especially here).

 

2. Guns here are readily available on the internet.

 

[sanuk711]

17 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Ok, so she gets beaten up regularly and then thrown out of the house. How would you feel? Who knows what contribution she made to the upkeep, or why she was the one who had to leave. We don't know how things panned out over the ensuing months.

"she gets beaten up regularly and then thrown out of the house."--- She says--He says, but he doesn't because she's murdered him now so I guess she can say anything.

"Who knows what contribution she made to the upkeep"-- Whatever contribution she made to help run the plastic bucket shop would you think it entitles her to murder him.?

"why she was the one who had to leave"--- Because he owned the business (on Thai News started had it before he met her) I know where you and I come from we would probably have to leave--live in a bedsit until the court said we were allowed back into our own business--but stupid Thai laws aren't the same.

 

Would you be this upset if it was the other way around......  and he had murdered her?...or would you be calling for max sentence for him.

[2long]

There are many people on planet earth who don't deserve to be, and many of them deserve to have their lives ended with some pain.

Many women (and men) suffer abuse at the hands of others, and in SOME cases I would justify this kind pf payback. However, if society starts to get on this lady's side, then where do we draw the line? We all know that there are plenty of crazy women here who feel hard done by for the silliest little things. Where does one draw the line in what deserves payback or not?

None of us were there when the alleged abuse took place, and I'd bet none of us were there when this shooting happened. So the best we can do is speculate.

[KannikaP]

45 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

& she was just 27

Read again.....40!

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, Bruno123 said:

Even if what she said is true.... she condemned herself with her own words.

 

She wasn't even living with him, so there could have been no violence on his part. She admitted that he requested her to leave his house. If he was abusing her; she would be the one to want to leave.

The likelihood is that she was the aggressor, hence she being the one that went to his place to attack him.

Try to not just jump on any bandwagon that comes along. Use your critical brain at least sometimes.

The likelihood is WHAT?

[Purdey]

The trial may bring up some witnesses to her abuse, or not. No one should guess at this stage as she can say what she likes to defend herself.