Donald Trump says he invoked 5th Amendment in deposition for New York investigation

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Just now, Mavideol said:

if they are his supporters they deserve it.... I know the guy for the past 40+ years, never liked him and it only got worse, 3 words..... Lock Him Up

I know some Trump supporters who are very kind, considerate and definitely not angry. They just trust what their pastor tells them.

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, moogradod said:

Do you know the film "Jacob's Ladder" (1990). I felt first a bit like that reading your comment. Or am I dreaming ? No - not the case, just performed a reality check. So I must be right to assume that he HAS left office and he is NOT president anymore but someone called Biden ?

 

So why should he not be accountable and somehow being protected from being prosecuted ?

The point that I was making is that some people have been going on about Trump being arrested and jailed for the last six years now and they claimed that he would be jailed as soon as he wasn't POTUS anymore

[Mac Mickmanus]

43 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

He's already committed crimes that got him impeached. Twice. The walls are closing in. People have had enough of this grifter's nose-thumbing at laws he feels apply to everyone but him. He even tightened the laws that will bite him in the a$$. I personally can't wait.

Didnt Donald get acquitted twice in his impeachment trails and therefore didn't commit any crimes ?

[moogradod]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The point that I was making is that some people have been going on about Trump being arrested and jailed for the last six years now and they claimed that he would be jailed as soon as he wasn't POTUS anymore

OK, understand. But these 6 years have passed now.

[ozimoron]

47 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

He's already committed crimes that got him impeached. Twice. The walls are closing in. People have had enough of this grifter's nose-thumbing at laws he feels apply to everyone but him. He even tightened the laws that will bite him in the a$$. I personally can't wait.

Actually, it's conceivable that the FBI would never have raided him if it was just a misdemeanour instead of a felony offence. They likely would have confined themselves to a subpoena.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Didnt Donald get acquitted twice in his impeachment trails and therefore didn't commit any crimes ?

No, impeachment does not need to be a crime, isn't a court of law and is entirely political. It was decided on partisan, not judicial, grounds.

Edited August 11, 2022 by ozimoron

[mikeymike100]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

Correct, you hit the nail on the head.

It seems that many people on this forum despise Trump for whatever reason and want him locked up or worse, without being indicted, going to court, having a fair trial and having a jury decide.

Its hard to fathom really.

If he was half as bad as some of these folks think surely he would already be doing time?

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No, impeachment does not need to be a crime, isn't a court of law and is entirely political. It was decided on partisan, not judicial, grounds.

But he was acquitted .

Or are people now guilty of something because they are accused and acquitted .

  I thought that an acquittal means they weren't guilty of the allegations and makes then innocent 

[HappyExpat57]

22 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Didnt Donald get acquitted twice in his impeachment trails and therefore didn't commit any crimes ?

No. He was impeached. Twice. Which shows just how much an impeachment has teeth. Useless show really.

[scorecard]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

"Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first?"  "I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason..."

 

Best wrong and comedy comment this month. on both items.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No. He was impeached. Twice. Which shows just how much an impeachment has teeth. Useless show really.

What ?

"No" what ?

No he wasn't acquitted ?

[ozimoron]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

But he was acquitted .

Or are people now guilty of something because they are accused and acquitted .

  I thought that an acquittal means they weren't guilty of the allegations and makes then innocent 

Yes, it's like being acquitted of murder by your own brother as the judge. Why are you being so tendentious about this? You know that it's irrelevant to this matter and that impeachments are 100% political in terms of judgement.

[OneMoreFarang]

8 hours ago, LarrySR said:

He makes a fool of himself every time he speaks and he never shuts up.

 

Lots of fools do that all over the world.

The big difference is that in most of the rest of the world people don't vote for the fools to become the leader of their country. 

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Lots of fools do that all over the world.

The big difference is that in most of the rest of the world people don't vote for the fools to become the leader of their country. 

To be fair, more Americans got that in 2020 than didn't. They do have a habit of electing movie stars as presidents and governors, etc. Australia elects lawyers. That's down to a preferential voting system or lack thereof. We also have no concept of impeachment. Anybody can be charged at any time. There's now an extreme discord between the political parties and faith in their institutions, not including the church. The party of law and order have now become outlaws. The number of Trumps associates who have been indicted is beyond the pale. I sincerely hope that Trump doesn't escape conviction by virtue of politics alone or that if he is convicted then he isn't later pardoned by another far right president.

Edited August 11, 2022 by ozimoron

[Jingthing]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

If Trump has a scintilla of principle I guess he's going to apologize to Clinton any day now, since he has had an epiphany about the 5th.

Nope. No scintilla. 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, mikebike said:

Ahhhh... the famous neutrality! ????????

Always at the ready!

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

Especially when he himself has said that those taking the 5th are guilty! ????

In a civil case which this is, taking the 5th CAN be interpreted as guilt. He's gonna pay BIGLY! But he dodges prison ... for now. 

 

Trump can't get in criminal jeopardy by pleading the Fifth — but he can lose a lot of money: former FBI agent - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism

 

 

[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

What's sadder is the he makes fools of his supporters.

Trump despises his supporters.  He knows who they are and he'd never invite them to his house for dinner.  They're mostly trailer park trash and they disgust him.  But Kim Kardashian, Kanye West....yeah, those are more "his people."  Now if the deplorables want to send him money and go to jail on his behalf....well, he'll still despise them.

[talahtnut]

Democrats, 'the swamp' have done many things to discredit Trump,

but Mar a Lago is a crazy stunt, watch it backfire and increase

Trumps ratings.

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

But he was acquitted .

Or are people now guilty of something because they are accused and acquitted .

  I thought that an acquittal means they weren't guilty of the allegations and makes then innocent 

I won't get into the rest of your argument, but an acquittal doesn't mean innocent.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I won't get into the rest of your argument, but an acquittal doesn't mean innocent.

Also impeachment trials in the senate are not criminal trials. They are political trials. The republicans tragically remained loyal to their dear leader and they had the votes. They could have put the grifter to bed easily back then but they opted to continue with the circus. There are never any criminal penalties possible from an impeachment conviction and so far not one president has been convicted in the senate (although Nixon would have been but wisely resigned). 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Jingthing

[bamnutsak]

440 times!

 

People are saying that he's the BEST fifth-amemendment taker ever.

 

Trump took the Fifth Amendment at least 440 times in deposition with NYS attorney general Letitia James: report

 

That’s a whole lot of self-incrimination.

 

Former President Donald Trump pleaded the Fifth Amendment at least 440 times on Wednesday to avoid answering questions in his four-hour deposition with New York Attorney General Letitia James’s office in lower Manhattan about business dealings at his real estate company, according to NBC News.

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-fifth-amendment-440-times-nys-attorney-general-james-20220811-x4gbkskjfrhkrfmndvolqi434m-story.html

 

 

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3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

440 times!

 

People are saying that he's the BEST fifth-amemendment taker ever.

 

Trump took the Fifth Amendment at least 440 times in deposition with NYS attorney general Letitia James: report

 

That’s a whole lot of self-incrimination.

 

Former President Donald Trump pleaded the Fifth Amendment at least 440 times on Wednesday to avoid answering questions in his four-hour deposition with New York Attorney General Letitia James’s office in lower Manhattan about business dealings at his real estate company, according to NBC News.

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-fifth-amendment-440-times-nys-attorney-general-james-20220811-x4gbkskjfrhkrfmndvolqi434m-story.html

 

 

Given Trump's propensity to take a golf cart rather than walk, one is tempted to say that he's not physically fit. But taking the 5th 440 times? Now, that's aerobic!

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What follows is a much better version of what I attempted:

 

Trump Says Biden Could Never Take the Fifth as Many Times as He Did

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—After pleading the Fifth Amendment more than four hundred times in his deposition to the New York State attorney general, Donald J. Trump boasted that Joe Biden could never take the Fifth as many times as he did.

“I’d like to see Sleepy Joe sit in a chair for six hours and take the Fifth four hundred times,” he told reporters. “It’s not gonna happen.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-biden-could-never-take-the-fifth-as-many-times-as-he-did

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13 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

There's truth to Trump's claim about joe. Biden would have needed a nap every 100 5ths.

Despite which look at all bills that he managing to get passed. Whereas Trump even with a biggger majority in the House and Senate got so little done. 

Edited August 12, 2022 by placeholder

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[pegman]

On 8/11/2022 at 5:38 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

The point that I was making is that some people have been going on about Trump being arrested and jailed for the last six years now and they claimed that he would be jailed as soon as he wasn't POTUS anymore

Some good things take time 

[pegman]

Is Trump in for the Rosenbergs treatment if convicted of selling nuke secrets? He  has been a big supporter of capital punishment in the past.  Seems a former CIA Director thinks that that would be a good thing. 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-beschloss-former-cia-director-hayden-suggest-trump-executed-having-nuclear-documents

 

 

[LarrySR]

Score on pleading the fifth:-

Trump =440 

Hillary =0 

 

 

That tells you EVERYTHING.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 8/11/2022 at 6:03 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

But he was acquitted .

Or are people now guilty of something because they are accused and acquitted .

  I thought that an acquittal means they weren't guilty of the allegations and makes then innocent 

You are confusing the process of impeachment with the process of criminal Justice.

 

Once again letting loose the fact of your lack of understanding of that which you are discussing.