Eric Loh Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: To be disturbed by that one might have to believe that the movement will grow and grow to be a significant player in US politics. Personally I doubt it. Need not have to grow to cause carnage to the country akin to domestic terrorism. 1
bendejo Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 "Biden speech denouncing Trump, 'MAGA ideology' sparks threats, calls for violence" says the headline. Looks like Biden was telling the truth. 2
thaibeachlovers Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: You think that white rural and elderly white people are especially concerned about corruption? Are you admitting that Washington D C is corrupt?
placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: Are you admitting that Washington D C is corrupt? I'm sure that your question makes sense to you. 1
placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 11:27 AM, thaibeachlovers said: To be disturbed by that one might have to believe that the movement will grow and grow to be a significant player in US politics. Personally I doubt it. And yet... Trump embraces, hypes QAnon conspiracy theories After winking at QAnon for years, Donald Trump is overtly embracing the baseless conspiracy theory, even as the number of frightening real-world events linked to it grows. On Tuesday, using his Truth Social platform, the Republican former president reposted an image of himself wearing a Q lapel pin overlaid with the words "The Storm is Coming." In QAnon lore, the "storm" refers to Trump's final victory, when supposedly he will regain power and his opponents will be tried, and potentially executed, on live television. As Trump contemplates another run for the presidency and has become increasingly assertive in the Republican primary process during the midterm elections, his actions show that far from distancing himself from the political fringe, he is welcoming it. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/qanon-trump-conspiracy-theories 2
thaibeachlovers Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 12:23 PM, placeholder said: And yet... Trump embraces, hypes QAnon conspiracy theories After winking at QAnon for years, Donald Trump is overtly embracing the baseless conspiracy theory, even as the number of frightening real-world events linked to it grows. On Tuesday, using his Truth Social platform, the Republican former president reposted an image of himself wearing a Q lapel pin overlaid with the words "The Storm is Coming." In QAnon lore, the "storm" refers to Trump's final victory, when supposedly he will regain power and his opponents will be tried, and potentially executed, on live television. As Trump contemplates another run for the presidency and has become increasingly assertive in the Republican primary process during the midterm elections, his actions show that far from distancing himself from the political fringe, he is welcoming it. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/qanon-trump-conspiracy-theories but do you believe it will grow to the point of being significant? I doubt it ergo I'm not getting exercised about it.
candide Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: On the subject of transparency reducing corruption, I think we are all very aware that it depends which side of the political divide the person accused of corruption is on to determine how it is treated. With Trump we had about 6 years of all sorts of hare-brained accusations without supporting evidence which required forensic analysis of everything the guy did, without finding a smoking gun. People making these false accusations were not punished for doing so. The ultimate in transparency. With Biden, the subject of this thread, there is a giant trove of evidence of potential misdoings(and certainly proof he lied about overseas business) which was falsely dismissed as being foreign disinformation and is generally censored. People that honestly and fairly try to discus and understand what the evidence proves are normally punished often banned outright from social media sites. The ultimate in opacity. Yet you say that "Trump and the Republican party have actively fought such transparency". Clearly the opposite is true. How stupid these Chinese people were! They didn't know Joe Biden was not holding any official position any more! Dumber than dumb! ???? "Chinese energy company CEFC paid first son Hunter Biden and first brother Jim Biden $4.8 million in 2017 and 2018, according to the Washington Post." (The NYPost now citing generally censored left-wing MSM ????) You can also check it in the (generally censored ????) article cited: "The Post did not find evidence that Joe Biden personally benefited from or knew details about the transactions with CEFC, which took place after he had left the vice presidency and before he announced his intentions to run for the White House in 2020." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-china-laptop/ As about "opacity" ????, "Hunter Biden’s financial arrangement with CEFC China Energy have been previously reported and were included in a Republican-led Senate report from 2020." And that's how Biden's DOJ and the deep state have been protecting Hunter: ???? "Hunter Biden’s overseas work has been the subject of heightened scrutiny. He has been under federal investigation as part of an inquiry into his taxes, with witnesses called before a grand jury as recently as last month". Edited September 19, 2022 by candide 2
candide Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: but do you believe it will grow to the point of being significant? I doubt it ergo I'm not getting exercised about it. Significant, no one knows. Influential, it surely already is! https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/02/majority-of-republicans-believe-the-qanon-conspiracy-theory-is-partly-or-mostly-true-survey-finds/?sh=26b4437b5231 2
Phoenix Rising Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Meanwhile, perhaps people should remember why Hitler came to power, and it wasn't because they thought he'd make the trains run on time. Wonder why Trump is popular? "Meanwhile, perhaps people should remember why Hitler came to power, and it wasn't because they thought he'd make the trains run on time" Please do tell us why Hitler came to power. Seriously, go on....... Oh, and regarding the Nazi reference: Creepy, One-Finger Salute At Trump Rally Evokes 'Heil Hitler' Gesture "Wonder why Trump is popular?" White angst. Edited September 19, 2022 by Phoenix Rising 1
heybruce Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. If you are not aware of why Washington is not popular in areas of the US you can't have been paying attention. To detail everything wrong with Washington would take too long and is probably off topic. Why else do you think Trump was elected? The old "if you don't know I'm not going to tell you" answer. It didn't work when I was a child and it doesn't work now. Give a few examples of the terrible things happening in Washington that got Trump elected and explain what Trump did to improve things. If you can't do that, don't bother replying.
heybruce Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Rather than be abused and called a raving ...ah yes I see you edited it hmm. From yesterday, here is an excellent summary of Biden's lies and corruption. Fully corroborated by witnesses involved. Just imagine if this was Trump. And just look at the lack of transparency and desire to investigate these dealings with nations the US is currently having difficulties with. I think we will need to wait until after the midterms to get the transparency you so desire. https://nypost.com/2022/09/06/biden-says-he-plans-meeting-with-xi-jinping-at-g-20-if-hes-there/ Good example of a nothing burger. Point out the lies, corruption, and corroboration by credible witnesses. It isn't there. 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Jingthing said: Pro authoritarian, anti democracy, crazy conspiracy cult of personality, fascists. You sound just like JB - uniting the country and all that. 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Watching the video, that's a truly disturbing Rally held by Trump, eerie music in the background, the Trump in a bizarre speech playing up to the crowd who were showing the Q “one” sign. The only thing missing was handing out the cool aid to the cult after. I thought the Dracula rant was much creepier: 1
placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: but do you believe it will grow to the point of being significant? I doubt it ergo I'm not getting exercised about it. You're not getting exercised about the fact that the person who consistently leads in polls to be the next Republican candidate for President is now endorsing a lunatic conspiracy theory? Do you think his endorsement is going to help it grow among Republicans, where it's already got a strong foothold? A Quarter of Republicans Believe Central Views of QAnon Conspiracy Movement Americans who most trust far-right news outlets are nearly five times as likely to believe the central views of the conspiracist movement, a study found. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-24/a-quarter-of-republicans-believe-central-views-of-qanon-conspiracy-movement 2
placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, nauseus said: I thought the Dracula rant was much creepier: And was Biden endorsing QAnon, a movement which claims elites drink the blood of children to extend their lives? That The Storm is coming which is going to result in the mass executions of Deep State malefactors? That Donald Trump was secretly fighting a cabal of pedophiliacs who are shipping children around the country via a fake furniture manufacturer? And there's so much more. 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, nauseus said: I thought the Dracula rant was much creepier: Really, what did he say to make you feel so creepy? 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: And was Biden endorsing QAnon, a movement which claims elites drink the blood of children to extend their lives? That The Storm is coming which is going to result in the mass executions of Deep State malefactors? That Donald Trump was secretly fighting a cabal of pedophiliacs who are shipping children around the country via a fake furniture manufacturer? And there's so much more. So much more? Sounds like a cheap ad. 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Really, what did he say to make you feel so creepy? He didn't have to say anything. 1
Phoenix Rising Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, nauseus said: You sound just like JB - uniting the country and all that. You can't unite with cultists.
Phoenix Rising Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: So much more? Sounds like a cheap ad. If you don't have a comeback it's better to shut up. 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Popular Post Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, nauseus said: So much more? Sounds like a cheap ad. That's all you've got? You have no problems with a potential candidate for President who endorses a movement that claims a sinister political elite is drinking the blood of children, is shipping children arouond the country to satisfy their pedophiliac desires, and that The Storm is coming that will result in their mass execution? That really isn't enough for you? 2 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: You can't unite with cultists. True - it seems that the Democrat magic is very powerful. 1
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: If you don't have a comeback it's better to shut up. After you. 1
Bkk Brian Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, nauseus said: He didn't have to say anything. You said Biden gave a "Dracula rant"............which infers some substance to more than a backdrop. 1
Phoenix Rising Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: He didn't have to say anything. trump (the ultimate creep): A OK????. President Biden: Creepy???? ???????????????? So, how's the weather in the Twilight Zone these days? 2
nauseus Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, Bkk Brian said: You said Biden gave a "Dracula rant"............which infers some substance to more than a backdrop. You're right - there wasn't much substance to it. 1
Bkk Brian Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, nauseus said: You're right - there wasn't much substance to it. I never said that though did I. Try again 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: You said Biden gave a "Dracula rant"............which infers some substance to more than a backdrop.
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, nauseus said: You sound just like JB - uniting the country and all that. Calling a spade a spade. Decent Americans don't want to unite with fascists. They exist of course but they need to be sent again into the shadows or American democracy is over. Edited September 19, 2022 by Jingthing
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Popular Post Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: You said Biden gave a "Dracula rant"............which infers some substance to more than a backdrop. It's bizarre. Trump supports a movement that explicitly claims Trump's elite opponents are drinking blood, but Nauseus focuses on decor instead. 3 1
candide Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, placeholder said: It's bizarre. Trump supports a movement that explicitly claims Trump's elite opponents are drinking blood, but Nauseus focuses on decor instead. Next time he may focus on Biden's dog! ????
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