Liz Truss’s premiership has got off to the worst start possible

[Photoguy21]

No matter what she does CNN will say it is a disaster. Maybe they should look at the idiot in charge of America sho says you need the jab because there is a tornado on the way.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Photoguy21

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you saying that there's no connection between rail workers high salary and high train ticket prices ?

  Also, that if bus drivers were to get a higher salary then bus ticket prices wouldn't have to rise as well ?

   Don't you think that there's a connection between operating costs and ticket prices and the higher the operating costs the higher the ticket price ?

Or management pay and bonuses? Dividend payments?

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or management pay and bonuses? Dividend payments?

 

Yes, this guy  receives 380 000 GBP per year working for UK rail companies.

   How much would you suggest he should receive in pay ?

 

[GreasyFingers]

As an Aussie it it is wonderful to hear the pommy whingeing. The only trouble is they taught us how to do it as well.

[Bangkok Barry]

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you saying that there's no connection between rail workers high salary and high train ticket prices ?

  Also, that if bus drivers were to get a higher salary then bus ticket prices wouldn't have to rise as well ?

   Don't you think that there's a connection between operating costs and ticket prices and the higher the operating costs the higher the ticket price ?

There's far more to it than that. As I said, you have only a tenuous understanding of what you write about. Some bus routes are subsidised by counties or cities or towns, for example, or they wouldn't be sustainable. So no, there isn't always a connection between operating costs and ticket prices.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, this guy  receives 380 000 GBP per year working for UK rail companies.

   How much would you suggest he should receive in pay ?

 

I have absolutely no idea who he is, what he does for a living or where you got the photo and information behind your claim.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

There's far more to it than that. As I said, you have only a tenuous understanding of what you write about. Some bus routes are subsidised by counties or cities or towns, for example, or they wouldn't be sustainable. So no, there isn't always a connection between operating costs and ticket prices.

So, raise taxes and pay everyone a high salary ?

Give bus drivers a large salary and raise peoples taxes to pay for it because the ticket price wouldn't cover the cost ?

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I have absolutely no idea who he is, what he does for a living or where you got the photo and information behind your claim.

David Waboso , works in management on the trains , gets 380 000 GBP per year

[Bday Prang]

6 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Seems that some are still singing from an old song sheet.  The Labour Party started their conference by singing the national anthem.  The likes of Corbyn and Abbot are long gone with Starmer taking his lead from the right wing leaning Tony Blair.

 

Just for clarity, I have never voted Labour and would sooner eat my own teeth than do that in the future.  But it is clear that Britain cannot continue with these morons running the country into the ground.  A cabinet full in incompetents put in place by the most incompetent of them all.

 

There needs to be a complete overhaul of politics and politicians in the UK.  There are simply no contenders at the moment who can turn this around.  Problem is that the general public haven't got the wherewithal to see beyond the same old Tory or Labour boxes to tick.

 

It has been said for years now that "we are in uncharted waters" or "we are in unprecedented times" and then just carrying on in the same way.  We have a Prime Minister and Chancellor who are in hiding (though unlike Johnson, not in a fridge or a shed) and getting underlings to face the difficult questions.  This is no way to "run" a country.

 

Screaming for a general election isn't going to fix this because you are then left with having to vote for the same inadequates and ne'er do wells that are in place now.  And I don't have the answer, but maybe we should have teams of experts calling the shots rather than a room full of amateurs who go from Health Minister to Home Secretary are the drop of a hat.

Dead right , its a broken system , and as long as being an MP is such a lucrative position it will always by default attract the wrong sort of people. who are backed by the wrong sorts of people.

Every now and again when a bright spark does appear who may have potential they invariably don't last long as when they  they  rattle a few cages along the way and threaten the status quo  they  are got rid of  pretty quickly  on the pretext of saying the wrong thing or some other technicality there's many ways to achieve that these days with all the "offence" waiting to be taken out there, on behalf of others

Who do these creeps actually represent ? The unions and big business ?  both of those need to be taken out of the equation for starters

 We need to separate politics from government if its at all possible and keep politicians well away from running the country 

 I've No Idea what the way forward  is.

 We could start by forcing the players in the current system to be legally obliged to achieve a certain % of all the things they claim they will do in their manifesto or be forbidden from standing for election again.  

  If we are to be stuck with two parties the there should be a limit on how many successive terms they can serve

 Its clear that these people are not fit to police themselves either and that needs to be addressed too 

 The  same goes for them voting for their own pay rises, as they are All rotten to the core 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

David Waboso , works in management on the trains , gets 380 000 GBP per year

Not any more apparently.

 

He’s working on water projects in Africa.

 

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But let’s assume he’s still running a rail company in the UK and that he’s really good at his job and that he’s employed a red hot management team to help run the railway company with him.

 

Let’s say he’s worth the money.

 

Why then the need for another 23 managers and management teams to run all 24 rail companies when for decades a signaled British Rail sufficed?

 

 

[baboon]

1 hour ago, superal said:

They are already on a decent wage , especially considering their skills . Some might say they are milking the temporary inflation rate in an act of greed . Rail Drivers earning double that of nurses and beat patrol police is a joke

Who? Who might say that and how much money would they be on?

[OneMoreFarang]

13 hours ago, Scott said:

 

Sorry, but just looking at her: What do you expect?

She looks like she is maybe able to switch on the kettle - maybe.

Quo vadis UK?

[baboon]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Truss has demonstrated that things can get a lot worse, and it only took her three weeks to do it.

And it took as long 3 weeks only because of the passing of Her Majesty...

[Bday Prang]

47 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

As an Aussie it it is wonderful to hear the pommy whingeing. The only trouble is they taught us how to do it as well.

Aussies have taken whinging to another level

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean millions of people in the UK aren’t struggling to afford regular meals?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cost-of-living-crisis-uk-food-poverty-b2074449.html

Is that Liz Trusses fault too ?  Strangely when looking back in time I don't recall any periods under a labour government when there were no poor people,  and neither can you or anybody else , 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean millions of people in the UK aren’t struggling to afford regular meals?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cost-of-living-crisis-uk-food-poverty-b2074449.html

I have noticed that the U.K population seems to be getting slimmer , lot less fat people around, which isnt such a bad thing 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Is that Liz Trusses fault too ?  Strangely when looking back in time I don't recall any periods under a labour government when there were no poor people,  and neither can you or anybody else , 

I like to go to the data:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382695/uk-foodbank-users/

 

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have noticed that the U.K population seems to be getting slimmer , lot less fat people around, which isnt such a bad thing 

Have a word with yourself.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I like to to the data:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382695/uk-foodbank-users/

That is because of the increase in the number of food banks (going from 157 to over 3000 in 7 years)  , rather than the amount of hungry people .

   More availability, more usage 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is because of the increase in the number of food banks (going from 157 to over 3000 in 7 years)  , rather than the amount of hungry people .

   More availability, more usage 

I suggest you go talk to the people who run them.

 

[Wobblybob]

I remember back in my day when there wasn't any food banks, if we were hungry we would go out and get a job, too easy these days for people to work the system.

[Bday Prang]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I like to to the data:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382695/uk-foodbank-users/

I  bet the rise in food bank usage mirrors the increase in immigrants arriving by whatever means  no government should have allowed that to happen . However your little chart shows that there has been a drop of nearly 400,000 or around 16%  over the last 2 recorded periods,  so something seems to be working.

Anyway there are plenty of people availing themselves of free food when its available whether they need it or not and many of them were not born in the UK  

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Bday Prang said:

I  bet the rise in food bank usage mirrors the increase in immigrants arriving by whatever means  no government should have allowed that to happen . However your little chart shows that there has been a drop of nearly 400,000 or around 16%  over the last 2 recorded periods,  so something seems to be working.

Anyway there are plenty of people availing themselves of free food when its available whether they need it or not and many of them were not born in the UK  

Oh, you’re on the immigrant thing.

 

 

[Bday Prang]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I like to to the data:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382695/uk-foodbank-users/

The data was all before liz truss was pm   nothing to do with her,   many are too lazy  (or clever) too work these days

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

A silly racist, apologist for Johnson who has lied all through his career. 

and which senior politician hasn't?

[Bday Prang]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh, you’re on the immigrant thing.

 

 

Its all part of the problem and can't be ignored

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I remember back in my day when there wasn't any food banks, if we were hungry we would go out and get a job, too easy these days for people to work the system.

Put a year on that.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

The data was all before liz truss was pm   nothing to do with her,   many are too lazy  (or clever) too work these days

You clearly don’t understand the cost of living crisis.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you go talk to the people who run them.

 

Yes, I may go there for lunch this afternoon, do you need to be a member or join or something, or can you just walk in and help yourself ?

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, I may go there for lunch this afternoon, do you need to be a member or join or something, or can you just walk in and help yourself ?

Just go along, you’ll be fine.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Chomper Higgot